sorry guys i know this is the most annoying thread but i just got my header back on its alpha works header, megan s pipe, megan mid pipe with two resonators, and TRD axle back and rasp is still a problem because TRD is one raspy mother. so im looking for something different hopefully through a trade, i like the OEM hidden muffler look but if i cant get that oh well, so witch ones have the least rasp with hidden mufflers, magnaflow, megan? and as far as big cans go what should i look for? how is Tsudo? thanks a lot guys sorry again for the redundant thread

i heard the precision muffler is real good, same with the ARK OEM looking one... look into those.

put your stock one back on problem solved

^^how does your exhaust sound?

don't have the header on so i cant say, but i do know that once i put it on that the TRD is going bye bye. my friend had a setup with a TRD and a header and it was just horrible. he switched back to the stock axle back and it got to a more manageable rasp level. the TRD axle back is probably the worst thing you could have if you don't like rasp with a header

Anyone try Magnaflow mufflers? I had one on my old S4 and it sounded deep. Granted the car was turbo'd .. but it sounded good.

dunno if this will work out for you but on my old car, i had 2 resonators also, with header, and catback... i told the muffler shop guy to put the other resonator backwards (what i mean is, if you look inside the resonator, it has those little hole thingy that kinda looks like this < < < < < , have them flip that backwards so that little hole thingys are facing the exhaust flow like this > > > > that is if the exhaust flow goes this way ---> then the flow would catch into the holes like so --> > --> > --> > and it would circulate more into the resonator to keep that rasp down. sorry for the lack of picture, but hopefully u catch my drift. i did this and it actually toned down my exhaust and gave that deep tone sound i was looking for.

ahh what the hell... paint FTW!

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a213/bluaeon/exhaustpic.jpg

i love the sound of my borla axle back, plus its oem style.

that helps a lot, would that hurt performance? and anyone know anything about Tsudo?

glad it helped. it will, but anything with a resonator will hurt performance, but at least your not too raspy.

am i better off with a precision mufflers or HKS hi power?

i'm sure anything will be an improvement over the trd. go precision for the oem look, hks for a angled look and more sound. simple.

watching...

my weapon R header and Spipe are coming in next week and i have a TRD exhaust. from the looks of this thread im in for a hella raspy ride.

yeah you will, i though i would be fine.. but its terrible.

you'll be fine for a while. MMW/weapon r ones dont produce as much rasp. i had a stock axleback and mid-pipe on with my mmw header, and no one complained about the sound.

but your on a stock axle back im sure its different with the TRD...

or do you not have the stock axle back anymore. what do you have now?

i have the same problem as you, but am getting a completely different exhaust setup and having a shop fabricate a resonator to hold up on rasp. i have the megan racing drift spec on there now and it is SO LOUD and SO RASPY. taking my car to the shop on the 25th to get the new exhaust done, so i will post up then.

but your on a stock axle back im sure its different with the TRD...

or do you not have the stock axle back anymore. what do you have now?
i was on stock axleback, meaning the rasp would probably be more apparent. but i switched to precision muffler then to a skunk2, as you can see in my profile.

what was better of the two?

skunk2, obviously since it's a full catback and has a deep growl, whereas the precisionmuffler's not meant to have a really deep tone. not sure if it'll help at all but here's some sound clips of mine.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=OIgq9aUqMx0
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NujMgWte2Hc

I have Injen exhaust and I have been considering headers... how would rasp be on that set up?

im trying to trade my TRD, the offerers i have right now are HKS, Tsudo, and precision... suggestions? i love the OEM look but if necessary ill give it up for a great sounding car... also my megan mid has two resonators welded in already. \

im being very indecisive so i need some help

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how would the Tsudo sound with my set up?

i have a tanabe concept G with a 30 inch resonator and about to install headers tomm. i hope this doesnt rasp :[

holy beans, i just installed my DME header (same as your alphawerks) and a Invidia s-pipe today and damn thing is more LOUD! then anything else but yes its raspy too but not as bad as my friends DC header... just way to loud, the TRD axleback is like a damn amplifier

im taking it off the TRD axleback tomorrow and putting the stock one back on and will let you know how i make out

all i have to say is: AR25

check my profile for my setup, absolutely perfect to me.

^^ no pics?

also, understand this guys... when you put a full on non-restrictive exhaust and/or header, it will make it louder no matter what. ;)

i just got finished installing my stock axleback and i must tell you its like night and day. yeah there is still rasp but its not as bad and 10x softer then with the TRD. i have videos that i will post later of the difference between the 2

Edit: videos didn't come out right the sound is all screwy... its hard to get what things really sound like on a digi cam lol

but i assure you, if you still have the stock axleback around . put it back on asap. its a world of a difference

^^ no pics?

here you go:

http://www.fastscions.com/ProductImages/tc_2270_lrg.jpg

http://www.motorsportcafe.com/Resonator_AR25_lg.jpg

http://javawacked.com/skunk2_AR25.jpg

yeeeeah skunk2~

Just thought I would throw my 2 cents in. I just went to teh muffler shop, and got my Areo 25 put on. I run a Weapon R header and S-Pipe, with a TRD exhaust with all stock pipe. he welded it between the Cat and the Stock Resonator so he would not have to change the pipe size. (It fit perfectly between them). Now the diarrhea sound (rasp) from my exhaust is quieted down to a constant fart, (quiet) but no more diarrhea . This would be for the people not wanting to spend a lot of money and need a quick fix. :relief:

ya, cost me 50 something for the AR25 shipped and then 50.00 for the cut 'n weld job at a local muffler shop here in Austin. it was worth every penny and then some.

Just thought I would throw my 2 cents in. I just went to teh muffler shop, and got my Areo 25 put on. I run a Weapon R header and S-Pipe, with a TRD exhaust with all stock pipe. he welded it between the Cat and the Stock Resonator so he would not have to change the pipe size. (It fit perfectly between them). Now the diarrhea sound (rasp) from my exhaust is quieted down to a constant fart, (quiet) but no more diarrhea . This would be for the people not wanting to spend a lot of money and need a quick fix. :relief:

any negatives from running a stock mid pipe?

Just thought I would throw my 2 cents in. I just went to teh muffler shop, and got my Areo 25 put on. I run a Weapon R header and S-Pipe, with a TRD exhaust with all stock pipe. he welded it between the Cat and the Stock Resonator so he would not have to change the pipe size. (It fit perfectly between them). Now the diarrhea sound (rasp) from my exhaust is quieted down to a constant fart, (quiet) but no more diarrhea . This would be for the people not wanting to spend a lot of money and need a quick fix. :relief:

any negatives from running a stock mid pipe?

Not really, prolly a small loss of power but it is still better than going back to a stock intake manifold. You can still hear your exhaust but it is just smoother sounding. because of the areo 25 being 2 1/2 inch pipe and stock being 2 1/4 it just welds in real nice with no modification besides cutting the pipe between the cat and the mid pipe. Only cost 20 to have it installed.

why would ppl get the Megan mid pipe if it's the same as the stock size? is there something special about the way they developed it?

why would ppl get the Megan mid pipe if it's the same as the stock size? is there something special about the way they developed it?

its not the same size its 2.5" and doesn't have a cat

why go through all that trouble. i say put your stock header back on and just do a full s-pipe back exhaust system. that way you can get whatever exhaust you want with a nice clean sound. and the performance would be just about the same.

intake/full open exhaust >>>>>> header + customized exhaust

i dont think the performance would be the same. the stock header is still very restrictive. also, why put a non restrictive intake and leave the header stock where it needs to breathe out as fast as it breathes in.

this is the downside when you start modifying exhaust flow. put a header, have some gain, do a full exhaust with s pipe, better flow, downside, too loud. add a resonator, now ur restricting it again, BUT not as much as it was stock. and at least now your actually breathing in/out better than stock. it has very minimum restriction going on. the question to this now is, how loud will it get if i get X header with X exhaust combo? this is where u need to test it out urself and spend lots of money just to satisfy yourself with the tone ur looking for. if u dont care about the sound, then hell, go for a straight 2.5" exhaust with no resonator... u might see flames come out of the exhaust if u do this, that is if u run ur car rich. but thats another topic for tuning.

hey i have MMW header and s pipe with factory midpipe with an aero25 welded in and with a trd axel back. i was highly considering the skunk2 catback with the aero25 put in that as well or getting a tanabe concept g and keep the midpipe i got now. rasp isnt really the prob with me. its the straight through smell and the sound level of the exhaust. just a lil too loud for me. but here are videos of mine with trd axel back and megan drift spec axel back with the same midpipe header and s pipe.
hope this helps.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dWw5GNqvN20

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rK8GfhdUqXA

why would ppl get the Megan mid pipe if it's the same as the stock size? is there something special about the way they developed it?

its not the same size its 2.5" and doesn't have a cat


sorry.. i thought that the OEM is 2.25. it's 2.0 and the meagan is 2.25 from what i have read and it is listed as 2.25 on their site.

hey i have MMW header and s pipe with factory midpipe with an aero25 welded in and with a trd axel back. i was highly considering the skunk2 catback with the aero25 put in that as well or getting a tanabe concept g and keep the midpipe i got now. rasp isnt really the prob with me. its the straight through smell and the sound level of the exhaust. just a lil too loud for me. but here are videos of mine with trd axel back and megan drift spec axel back with the same midpipe header and s pipe.
hope this helps.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dWw5GNqvN20

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rK8GfhdUqXA

That Megan sounds peaty good, it seems a little quieter and lower.

here is the TRD axleback with a DME header and Invidia s-pipe just for compairison...sounds like poop

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ekzRIys7E

here is the TRD axleback with a DME header and Invidia s-pipe just for compairison...sounds like poop

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ekzRIys7E

ahahaha sounds like poop alright. definitely put a resonator for that R/C tC

omg

lol hahahah this is awesome

http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&=&q=raspy+mother&btnG=Google+Search

i searched for raspy mother because of doug choi's thread and found this.

check the first link!

hahahaha lets google bomb all SL threads

has anyone have luck of keeping the TRD exhaust tone with WR header?
i really like the TRD tone. not too loud.

so if you guys had to vote.
keep in mind i have two resonators

HKS hi-power or Tanabe Concept G

i would prefer the Tanabe Concept G if the guys willing to sell it and it would kill rasp

with those two choices, i would go with HKS.

i did thats for all the input guys ill let you know how it all sounds very soon

Ok guys, I have been lurking around the forum checking out all the possible exhaust setups for minimal rasp and quality sound. I ended up getting...

WR 4-2-1 header w/ S pipe, Tsudo mid-pipe w/ AR25 Resonator, and Tanabe Concept G.

I bought it all friday so it should be here for installation this weekend. I'll let you know how it sounds!

^^^ where did you get the mid pipe?

Online.. http://www.speed-element.com/servlet/Detail?no=136 and I got the AR25 from.. http://moesperformance.com/

skunk2, obviously since it's a full catback and has a deep growl, whereas the precisionmuffler's not meant to have a really deep tone. not sure if it'll help at all but here's some sound clips of mine.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=OIgq9aUqMx0
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NujMgWte2Hc

Sounds great- in fact, it sounds pretty similar to the Skunk2 with just an intake (which is what I have,) surprisingly. On one of your vids, I saw that you commented about having a cat welded on. A hi-flow, or just a regular cat? Do you remember the brand?



all i have to say is: AR25

check my profile for my setup, absolutely perfect to me.


You don't happen to have a sound clip do you? I'm curious to see what the sound difference of Skunk2 + cat is vs. Skunk2 + AR25. From what I remember from installing mine, it looks like you'd only have room to weld in either a cat or an extra resonator, not both...and the resonator that comes with it seems pretty decent.

I don't have a header, but have considered the MMW one in the past. I just happened to read this thread, which lead me to youtube sound clips, and it perked my interest again.

Online.. http://www.speed-element.com/servlet/Detail?no=136 and I got the AR25 from.. http://moesperformance.com/

LOL!!! thought that you found another place that has it. i looked there and still out of stock. ooh well... guess i'll check them when i get back from Costa Rica in a week.

why would ppl get the Megan mid pipe if it's the same as the stock size? is there something special about the way they developed it? because it's not, oem shrinks after the resonator and megan stays the same size and has no cat, just straight thru

Just as an update.. It sounds RUTHLESS..