Heard a couple days ago that the '09 xD & xB's are coming out in a week or two and they'll only be $100.00 more. Anybody else heard this? After reading all the wonderful comments here, I think my mind is set on the xD. But, maybe I'll obsess a little more. :nails:

I heard about Toyota/Scion upping the prices on their vehicles. Forget why though.

we've had 09 xbs for over a month now.100 price different is correct. we arent gettin 09 xds for another couple months. 09 tc no price adjustment. i dont understand why it went up a 100 for xb when all they did is discontinue a color and make a new one available.

i personally cant wait to see the rs1 xd in person, we havent gotten ours yet and good choice notanold on xd

well dont quote me yet on the 09 xds timeframe.tryin to figure that one out

Well, I'm in the PNW, so maybe different areas get theirs at different times. Our "local" dealer just got in an '09 xB and '09 tC, so maybe the xD's are next.

What is an rs1 xD?

yea sorry i forgot dependin on how your region is doin they hold the 09s at port. i kno the xds arent coming 09 at least right now but not in too long i forgot what the toyota rep told us. the rs1 xd is the release series xd thats hot lava with custom body kit,with trd springs already,spoiler,color keyed interior ,etc..only 2000 made i beleive

any difference in the '09 xDs (from the 08 model)?

what is the new colour for the xB2 and the colour they discontinued?

What is an rs1 xD?

Here is the thread for the RS 1 xD, I'm getting one, whenever it clears the port, lol. Where in the PNW are you? I'm in Kelso, WA.
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=223570

big bird .they discontinued nautical blue and made stingray metallic. and good call robbie. its nice.and toyota hasnt realy said anything in changes in the xd in 09

Hmm well I'm not sure about any changes on it, or the release date but looking at the colors for the 09, I'm seeing Red MM as a color (?) instead of barcelona red metallic...

no clarification yet though on what that color is....

Up in the Arlington area, robbiej.

Hot lava, huh...............sounds like a color I would not be interested in, but I'm sure it and the custom pkg would appeal to others. :silly:

Just went to the dealer website and the prices for the '09's are the same as the '08's. NO price increase!!!! So, I'm wondering then, if they'll be offering any special "deals" or reduction in price of the '08's to move them.

it would be interestin if they changed that red that they use on alot of the toyota models too. i dont see them pricin dropin it just yet. maybe in a while

I doubt they'll be offering deals on the 08s to get them out the door. Most everyone right now is trading in their gas pigs and down sizing to these or similiar cars. The 08s might drop a bit in price but not that much most likely.

yea exactly. i mean we are out of all our 08s except for our xds obviously. now we just have 09 tcs and xbs.. problem is people are so upside down with suvs and trades they are payin 27 for a tc in the end.

Didn't really expect they would..............was just thinking outloud. ;-) There's still a pretty good inventory of all '08 Scion's at the local dealers (according to their websites).

lol its wishful thinking

every dealership around me are literally, and continually, out of xDs. They get them in and sale them practically the same day. So glad I ordered my special hot lava. Hah!

same here in hawaii been out of auto xd's for awhile. supposedly to get some by end of the month.

I'd put money down if I were you to hold it for you. When I say every dealer is out, I called about 10 dealers all around houston area and down and north... none. One just got a lava in, but I went to another one to have a lava one come in with the radio already installed (upgraded) so I can get that for same price. hah!

Just looked at the seattlescion.com site and they have an inventory of 99 Scion's and 46 of those are xD's. You just live in the wrong area. :) Or, maybe there's something wrong with Scion's I just haven't heard about yet. Hmmmmm?????

lol i dont think it's that hehe. wow 99 scions i wish we had that inventory.

I need color information about the 2009 xD! Anyone out there know the colors?

i was trying to find the colors in our corporate thing, and i cant find it sorry.

Thanks for looking... anyone else?

its weird. i searched through all the corporate scion sites. all that is ocming up is 08 colors. and just infromation on the release series xd1.0. anyone else? bc id like to know lol. im sure people will ask that soon with the xb gettin a new color

Oooooo.........new color? Hope it's blackberry crush.

Really though, I'd just like to see some '09's around here!!!!!

Wouldn't they keep the same colors though? :? That would suck if they came out with BBC lol. I'd soooo trade in for that!

eh its weird holding back the 09 xds and info like this. u never know they might do what they did with the xb and discontinue the blue and make stingray. but yea i hope if they add another color they keep all of the old ones too

Hmmm well I searched 09 colors in another configuration program and it looks like they are all the same...... odd :ponder:

Stingray is a nice color, but it is just another member of the gray family, which they already have 2 of. :yawn: Would really like to see it in BBC.

As for holding back the '09's I'm getting real sick of waiting. And, I think that seattlescion.com site is full of cr*p when it shows they have so many Scion's in inventory. :no: I bet that's how many they got in originally and have never updated their site.

Dealership just informed me that the 08's are basically gone (they have a white one on the lot, but not my cup of tea)... they will put in an order for my 2009 xD on the 15th of the month and it should be in around the 1st of August.

Ya, the dealer near me is out of them also, but that seattlescion.com site still shows they have 49 of them. Gee, maybe if you contact them, they could ship what you want to the dealer near you.

Unfortunately, its about 3000 miles from Seattle to Buffalo. so I think shipping is out of the question.

I'm content to wait... if I really wanted one right away, they had a perfectly nice white one on the lot that I test drove (it seriously made the fit feel like I was driving a golf cart). I'm gonna hold out for a blue or gray one.

I was being facetious, sodo. ;)

what do you mean?

;)

I was being a smartass.

I know... I was being facetious back.

The funny thing is that I'm originally from WA state, have lived in Puget Sound area before... wish I could go get one of their rides. The next 3 weeks are going to kill me... must exercise patience.

Just found out that Seattle dealer has NO xD's left either. Just keeps showing they have 49 (+/-) on their website. :no: I'll deal with somebody else.

I too questioned that inventory at Seattle Scion as my dealer kept telling me unless I wanted Black or Red they could not locate any 2008 XD's in my color (s) I put a depost down on the 1st and it is now the 10th. I finally talked to them again and they said that by the end of next week he will know if my colors are coming on the next shipment which is due out between the 17-21st. Other dealers seem to have different info regarding 2009's and in fact the Seattle Scion said they will have some next week. MY dealer is stating Sept/Oct as the 2008 are still being made ??. I really don't like all this confusion. If the car is not going to be available then don't take my deposit and if it is going to be for the 2009 I guess I need to know that.

Frustrated..thanks for this site as I will now try to call them again and get some further questions answered.

I too questioned that inventory at Seattle Scion as my dealer kept telling me unless I wanted Black or Red they could not locate any 2008 XD's in my color (s) I put a depost down on the 1st and it is now the 10th. I finally talked to them again and they said that by the end of next week he will know if my colors are coming on the next shipment which is due out between the 17-21st. Other dealers seem to have different info regarding 2009's and in fact the Seattle Scion said they will have some next week. MY dealer is stating Sept/Oct as the 2008 are still being made ??. I really don't like all this confusion. If the car is not going to be available then don't take my deposit and if it is going to be for the 2009 I guess I need to know that.

Frustrated..thanks for this site as I will now try to call them again and get some further questions answered.

Yeah, I'm a bit frustrated too... it seems like the dealers are as confused as we are.

This is what the Seattle Scion sales person wrote me:

"We are currently having to maintain a wait-list to manage the incredible demand for the 2009 Model that will begin to arrive later this month."

I certainly cannot believe that the 2008's are still being made.

My dealer spent this morning trying to track down a blue, gray, or black xD in the WNY/PA/Ohio Valley with no luck... he also said there were no more 08 xD's at port and that while the info is pretty limited, all indications are that the first 09s will arrive within a month, hopefully by the beginning of August. In general, 5 speeds are much harder to find right now that the automatics. He also indicated that he expected $100 to be tacked onto the MSRP... hopefully he's right on that account and its not more.

...I'm just guessing, but it sounds to me like Scion is trying not to take the excitement away from the limited release of the RS 1.0, while quietly preparing to release the 09s immediately after that market runs its course.

^^ ur exactly right. in my allocation list the only 08 xds we are still gettin are the rs series. we still havent been told anything over here so i just tel people i dont know yet of whats going on rather than speculate hah

...I'm just guessing, but it sounds to me like Scion is trying not to take the excitement away from the limited release of the RS 1.0, while quietly preparing to release the 09s immediately after that market runs its course.

That thought also crossed my mind. GMTA :clap:

OK I called my dealer back about what I have heard regarding the 08's d my concerns. He then started looking at some computer about production and stated he did not see that any are in production. I then told him I have heard they are releasing soon and my own investigative research. He then started looking through his e-mails and found an e-mail stating exactly what I told him about the 08's they have discontinued making any as the new 09's will roll out in the next few weeks in which he state that will probably be mid month (August) He also stated if it falls in line with the TC and XB it will be only $100 more. So I am now waiting for the 2009 blue or grey. He tried to sell me on a manual grey but I want an automatic. SO we are all good now..I just have to wait longer..and maybe I should not have to do so much research here. He did thank me for my research although he had the info in his e-mails. I am glad I could be of service :clap: :bow:

Nicolina in Seattle.

Ya, it seems the dealers are giving everybody the run-around & I'm totally unimpressed. I was told today "There will not be many released at any particular time, but we have an opportunity to request vehicles." :loser: Give me a break! I'm starting to look at the Honda Fit & the Nissan Versa instead, but the 2009 Fit doesn't come out until Sept. Oh, well, so it goes...........................guess I'll just wait a couple months.

PS - Nicolina,
You were extremely nice to straighten out this salesperson & let them know what's going on. But, it's their job to know the most current/up-to-date info.

Ya, it seems the dealers are giving everybody the run-around & I'm totally unimpressed. I was told today "There will not be many released at any particular time, but we have an opportunity to request vehicles." :loser: Give me a break! I'm starting to look at the Honda Fit & the Nissan Versa instead, but the 2009 Fit doesn't come out until Sept. Oh, well, so it goes...........................guess I'll just wait a couple months.

PS - Nicolina,
You were extremely nice to straighten out this salesperson & let them know what's going on. But, it's their job to know the most current/up-to-date info.

I test drove the Fit notfogy and I felt like I was driving an electric golf cart. The back seat and trunk space engineering is amazing, but the power leaves a lot to be desired, even with a 5 speed. I've owned Nissan's before and don't really have a desire to own another... and so, we wait.

[I test drove the Fit notfogy and I felt like I was driving an electric golf cart. The back seat and trunk space engineering is amazing, but the power leaves a lot to be desired, even with a 5 speed. I've owned Nissan's before and don't really have a desire to own another... and so, we wait.

Thanks for the input on the Nissan. I wasn't at all impressed with what I've read so far, but the Fit is a different story. If it felt like an electric golf cart, that might not be so awful for somebody approaching "oldfogydom". I'm quite a bit out of the Scion demographic age range, don't really spend a lot of time in my car and don't really care about all the audio bells & whistles. So, back to waiting :yawn: and thinking :tap: till the '09's come out.

Does it really matter what the age range is for marketing? If you like the car, it feels comfortable, it has what the bare minimum perks you're looking for, get it.

I've been in a Fit, a Sentra, a Versa and a Mazda 3. I love the Mazda 3 but that was too pricey for me. The Nissans were lacking in power. The Fit was great but felt too cheapy inside. With the xD it is cheap on the inside, but it doesn't feel like that and you get a lot of great small features for a $16k car.

yeah im in the wait till september line as well. If i get an xD it will be an 09. But by then i will be waiting on the 09 fit since it is just around the corner as well. But right about then is when honda will show the new sub $20k hybrid based on the fit.... and if it can be had with a manual then ill be waiting till spring for it. Anyway i wish i knew more about he new fit like MPG, safety crash tests (07-08 had poor reat crash test), and when i was really coming out. Gotta assume it matches teh xD and wait to compare shop it.

Well I got tired of the run around..having to do all the research for the dealer and finally being told by 2 other scion dealers it is looking more like September for the XD's So I reevaluated the fit sport today. ANd walked out with the fit. I did some homework so I got an OK deal just not easy right now with the little cars. I had to haggle for my price a bit and since I got the price down they were not going to give me the cash incentive..so almost walked out. Then they offered it. Then they totally low balled my trade in $4500. Edmunds was saying $5400 I did not like that either so we went back and forth 10 times finally I settled at $6300 which is what dealer 1 offered..I sould of squeezed out some more on that. Needless to say I have a car TODAY now I have to get my ransom money back from dealer 1 but we did not sign any papers of agreement and they did not locate a car. I did talk to the general mananger today who told me I could get my refund when the buisness office is open.
I have a grand cherokee and travel 25 miles to work..I could not continue waiting. It is more cost effective to ge tout now. My car payment will pay for the crappy gas mileage on the jeep. I also got a really nice blackberry color very slick.

I would only buy the Fit in the sport model and the price is only about $500 more then the XD. I still like the XD..

Oh and Seattle Scion was the one today that said they are not in production yet so it looks like mid Sept...so again different information then 2 days ago. They then tried to sell me a Honda fit but there inventory was low so I went to a bigger dealer.

Good luck all

Nicolina Seattle

I originally set out to get the Fit until i saw that teh rear side crash test is only 3 star and the IIHS rates rear impact as poor but they rate side rear as Good.
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/head_restraints/headrestraints.aspx?honda
This is the only thing that bothers me about these small cars. Teh trunk overhang is small and they rear crash test at nly 20mph with a car weighing the same. AND the fit did poor under those conditions so i couldnt purchase it. Fit does have 5 star front though.

Anyway i am hypermiling in my WRX which helps a lot so i can wait till Sept. Hopefully my clutch wont get worse in the mean time. It is a $1000 repair on the WRX with its AWD and what not.

Fit is a darn good car though. Ive started looking at the 09 vibe base. Size closer to an xB and the engine of an xD. It also splits the weight difference. Only thing is it has a pontiac logo on it. other than that it is the cool toyota matrix that should have been

[I test drove the Fit notfogy and I felt like I was driving an electric golf cart. The back seat and trunk space engineering is amazing, but the power leaves a lot to be desired, even with a 5 speed. I've owned Nissan's before and don't really have a desire to own another... and so, we wait.

Thanks for the input on the Nissan. I wasn't at all impressed with what I've read so far, but the Fit is a different story. If it felt like an electric golf cart, that might not be so awful for somebody approaching "oldfogydom". I'm quite a bit out of the Scion demographic age range, don't really spend a lot of time in my car and don't really care about all the audio bells & whistles. So, back to waiting :yawn: and thinking :tap: till the '09's come out.

More info on the Nissan... we own a 99 Altima with about 100k on it... not a horrible service record history, but it underperforms its EPA estimate gas mileage by a lot and I don't like the way it drives because of a problem with the fuel injectors (which we've fixed twice already)... hard to pin down a specific reason, but I wouldn't care to own another Nissan (I have rented other Nissan's and found they all drive similarly).

Re: the Fit... the standard model does not come w/ Cruise Control and so you have to go with the sport, which means you'll be shelling out more than for an xD. I felt like it was totally gutless (worse than my old 86 Tercel) with a 5 speed getting onto the highway on a flat on ramp. The one I get on everyday is uphill... I don't want to deal with it, but its a fine little automobile and a nice alternative to the xD... just wasn't my cup of tea (and so, we wait).

I think if I was going to go another way, I'd go with TX and go after a Vibe (which is manufactured by Toyota). And I am by no means the target demo... I mean, I'm 28, but I don't plan to mod the car at all... I just fell in love with the xD on the test drive.

I drove the Fit (Sport model), and I, too, felt like I was driving an electric golf cart. It was not comfortable, and it made me feel claustrophobic. When I drove the xD, I couldn't believe the difference. I was so pleased with the way it drove and the driving position. You get so much more for your money on the xD, and it is a hell of a lot more fun to drive.

P.S. I'm 36, so I hardly fit the demographic, but who cares? I love my car!

Thanks, you guys are making me rethink my decision to look for something else. It really is about what appeals to me, rather than what a manufacturer thinks their target is and I've always been one who likes different/unusual things. I wasn't very happy at all when I read the rear end crash test results last night for the Fit (eg - poor). Sent off an e-mail to the Honda dealer asking him if this issue is being addressed in the 2009 redesign. Guess I'll wait, along w/everybody else, for the 2009 xD's and go from there. Would just be nice to have a more definitive date. :)

Notanold: I bought an 08' xD from Toyota of Seattle (Seattle Scion) last August. PM me if you want some feedback on the dealership.

btw I am also "too old" for the demographics.

So far I like the xD - especially bangforbuck and balance of mileage/performance - but it is not perfect. An inexpensive economy car after all. The seats could be better designed for long trips, as an example.

For what it's worth: The '09 Fit is a clean-sheet design and is supposed to be significantly improved. Knowing Honda that's probably true. The '09 xD is a tweak job with little known about specifics. Tho' I preferred the xD last year, the Fit Sport was a close second. Since I've done a lot of suspension modding to the xD, the Fit Sport would probably have been cheaper. However, I too was concerned about rear crash tests and relative lack of power. Also local Honda dealers were price gouging, something Scion dealers can't do. But the Fit's interior usability was outstanding. Anyway, might be worth waiting - as you said - and try them both in the Fall.

Honda Fit 09 supposedly arrives in September/October.

My best guess (from various sources) is that the Scion xD 09 should be selling sometime in August. This is the most logical guess, since LAST YEAR'S MODEL (Scion xD 2008) shipped initially in August 2007. That would be exactly 1 year gap.

July needs to end.... soon....

I have been told they do not arive until Sept by the scion dealers here in Austin. But we have seen how different each part of the country is with supply ( we have had the 09 xBs since early june). I wouuld count on Sept

I have been told they do not arive until Sept by the scion dealers here in Austin. But we have seen how different each part of the country is with supply ( we have had the 09 xBs since early june). I wouuld count on Sept

September... ugh... wish I didn't prefer this car so much to the others I've been looking at. I'm holding out hope for mid-August. I'd very much like to have the car by the end of the summer as my current mode of transportation is a Schwinn Trailway Hybrid Bicycle... it gets good gas mileage, but its severely underpowered. :P

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Thanks, I needed that!

I'd very much like to have the car by the end of the summer as my current mode of transportation is a Schwinn Trailway Hybrid Bicycle... it gets good gas mileage, but its severely underpowered. :P

What kind of fuel does your Hybrid Bicycle run on? Regular? Premium? Evian Water?

:silly:

I'd very much like to have the car by the end of the summer as my current mode of transportation is a Schwinn Trailway Hybrid Bicycle... it gets good gas mileage, but its severely underpowered. :P

What kind of fuel does your Hybrid Bicycle run on? Regular? Premium? Evian Water?

:silly:

Cigarettes and beer. :P Have any suggestions for some cool mods to my bike? Maybe I can put some hydraulics on it.

PS - The guy at one of the local Scion dealers told me that he talked to his Scion rep yesterday and there's a bit of a lag right now because of the Port strike... but that everything that comes in next will be 09 xDs (he guessed 4 weeks, give or take). He has one Black Automatic on the lot... crap... why can't it be a 5-speed?

nah you dont want an 08 at this point. youll be kicking yourself later when you go to sell it for $500 less than an 09

I just filled out the paper work for my 09 yesterday here in kansas city. They put it on a priority order. The dealership made a huge mistake in there trade in offer and after contacting attorneys they went ahead and stuck with what they told me. They want this to be over a soon as possible. They got there allocation today and they said it usually takes about 3 weeks to hit the lot after the allocation. He said first week in August the third week if something really screws up. It was fun sitting in a conference room with the dealership new car manager and the owners of the car lot and watching them about blow there top at the dealer I had been working with. I ve never seen a dealership blink first but they did because the owners did not want there name associated with the screw up.

I just filled out the paper work for my 09 yesterday here in kansas city. They put it on a priority order. The dealership made a huge mistake in there trade in offer and after contacting attorneys they went ahead and stuck with what they told me. They want this to be over a soon as possible. They got there allocation today and they said it usually takes about 3 weeks to hit the lot after the allocation. He said first week in August the third week if something really screws up. It was fun sitting in a conference room with the dealership new car manager and the owners of the car lot and watching them about blow there top at the dealer I had been working with. I ve never seen a dealership blink first but they did because the owners did not want there name associated with the screw up.

Thanks for the info re: the allocation.

Ah-ha! So since the dealerships are getting their allocations, when the salesperson said "There will not be many released at any particular time, but we have an opportunity to request vehicles." he was feeding me a line of BS just to get me to order one?

Ah-ha! So since the dealerships are getting their allocations, when the salesperson said "There will not be many released at any particular time, but we have an opportunity to request vehicles." he was feeding me a line of BS just to get me to order one?

Probably not... my guess is that all of the first delivered vehicles will be spoken for by pre-orderers... but that's just a guess.

My guess is that some of them will be pre purchased then you will be waiting for the next delivery 2 more months down the road. The dealership I went to has not had an xd on the lot since mid June. They will sell most of the next shipment before they hit the lot. They have an xd they purchased just so that they have one for test drives so that people can pre order. They cant even keep them on the lost long enough for people to test drive. This is coming from a dealership that sold 25 new cars last saturday in a horrible rain storm. So take that for what it is worth. I dont know how busy your local dealer is.

Guess I better tell my salesman I want a test drive when the new ones come in, so I can order one if it's going to take 2 months to get here. :doh:

yea it all depends but scion likes to keep a 30 day worth of cars and they admited they were a little behind with allocations lately, but we all get wish lists for our allocation dependin on how many we sell and what we sell. and like kcxd said its like the cars come in, they are already sold to someone. and none to test drive. we had a time where we had not one tc stick or auto to drive. that was bad