who thinks they will bring a supercharger in the future for the xd? .. a chirp from alittle car doesnt sound like a bad idea :P.

I'm with this kid! I'd much rather have a SC option. Low end is where it's at. I live outside the city - top end speed is nice, but torque is where the day to day performance is.






who thinks they will bring a supercharger in the future for the xd? .. a chirp from alittle car doesnt sound like a bad idea :P.

I don't see it coming....

xD owners interested on performance are so little.

Just look how hard is to get 10 people together to have NST make us that underdrive pulley.... and is only $99!

Greedy is almost out of the question... our best shot will be with Blitz if they care to adapt their Yaris supercharger to fit the xD.

IMO our choice for force induction will come in form of a turbo kit from a small company such as TurboToyotas or perhaps Richard Holdener.

I agree that down low torque is nice... but you can get that effect from a small and quick spooling turbo and still have a decent top end.

The Blitz supercharger for the Yaris is just disappointing...

Is close to $4,000 and they gains have been between 20 and 25whp only...

A superchared Yaris with some headers and exhaust and CAI will put out 125whp at peak of boost of 8psi

While a turbo Yaris with a GT25 @ 8psi will put down 180whp and you can get it done for the same $4000.

my 0.2

I checked around and I believe even greddy made s/c for the yaris. I can kinda agree that people who want performance for the xd is a little on the down side but yaris is not any better around here just like my cousin bought a yaris sedan just cause its cherry red. :rofl:

But I can agree that 25-30hp for 4k doesnt cut it :no:

Turbo is a good option, im down for turbos too, but some people want to go a little different and hear a chirp then a "pshh" sound . I live in the city so more power but less lagging! :P

and if anyone hasnt notcied most toyotas/ and ALL of scions have a supercharger option from greddy, trd, and blitz except the xd :tap:

in terms of choosing a charger based off sound, thats a no-no :P, (and there are BOV's for turbo's which give you a chirp...). in terms of low end power you can program within specific RPM ranges, considering the fact that you will need a new management system for either, and a small turbo shouldn't be much more expensive than a decent supercharger set up..i agree with castrex on this one.

Turbo looks to be only option in the near future, unless Vortech or some smaller companies step up. TRD has no plans but if I do remember correctly, they offered the s/c for the 02-08 corolla about 2 1/2 years after it was released. So it may just come down to the waiting game.
Going to have to wait it out :b

I dont make my choices based on a sound. But the idea of a chirp sound is cool lol. Im a kid and i find putting turbo kits and checking what problems they might have later on sounds complex.
when I had my volvo. all i had to do is full exhaust system. intake. and ecu upgrade (basic stuffs) and called it a day :P
but yea they did make one for the 03-up corolla from trd, and if i dont know any better. their pretty much same engines right?
I guess we will just wait and see lol

superchargers can come with just as many problems. Leaks become a MAJOR issue to superchargers, much more so than turbo's, and can absolutely ruin your air/fuel ratio. dust/dirt/and other small contaminates can also throw off your performance. there's no simple answer to anything, but i see what youre getting at. how many cars have you had? youre only 17 lol

superchargers can come with just as many problems. Leaks become a MAJOR issue to superchargers, much more so than turbo's, and can absolutely ruin your air/fuel ratio. dust/dirt/and other small contaminates can also throw off your performance. there's no simple answer to anything, but i see what youre getting at. how many cars have you had? youre only 17 lol
well my mom owns a corolla, but i bought my first car last yr which was a volvo s60 t5 .. 247hp - 240 torque and after a few mods it was about 280hp .. but it had 130k miles on it nd got my trans. shot so yea. i sold it now i gots a scion. i pay for my car and insurance so dont think im a rich kid or sumthin :P lol . but my dream is to go back to volvo and get a volvo 60R! lol

thats pretty cool, good job for paying everything yourself. did you mean the S60R?..ive never heard of just a plain 60R..

superchargers can come with just as many problems. Leaks become a MAJOR issue to superchargers, much more so than turbo's, and can absolutely ruin your air/fuel ratio. dust/dirt/and other small contaminates can also throw off your performance. there's no simple answer to anything, but i see what youre getting at. how many cars have you had? youre only 17 lol
well my mom owns a corolla, but i bought my first car last yr which was a volvo s60 t5 .. 247hp - 240 torque and after a few mods it was about 280hp .. but it had 130k miles on it nd got my trans. shot so yea. i sold it now i gots a scion. i pay for my car and insurance so dont think im a rich kid or sumthin :P lol . but my dream is to go back to volvo and get a volvo 60R! lol

Scion xD + Intake Manifold + CAI + Header + exhaust + Underdrive Pulley + coilovers + sticky rubber = You kicking some S60R ___ on a track! For sure. The 60R whale won't stand a chance.


You won't keep with it on a straight tough... but who cares?

If you are into fast straights go buy a Mustang... :rofl: :P

i dont think they will (TRD) considering all the crap/bullsh*t there goin threw wit the tc supercharger there trying to scrap the tc SC as it is too

Scion xD + Intake Manifold + CAI + Header + exhaust + Underdrive Pulley + coilovers + sticky rubber = You kicking some S60R butt on a track! For sure. The 60R whale won't stand a chance.


You won't keep with it on a straight tough... but who cares?

If you are into fast straights go buy a Mustang... :rofl: :P

true THAT son. who cares how fast you are in a straight line if you can only travel in a straight line at speeds...id much rather be confident in my handling abilities....prove some true driving skill :D haha

thats pretty cool, good job for paying everything yourself. did you mean the S60R?..ive never heard of just a plain 60R..
yea, i meant a s60R :P. but hey 6spd 300hp awd is not bad right? haha

Scion xD + Intake Manifold + CAI + Header + exhaust + Underdrive Pulley + coilovers + sticky rubber <-- castrex knows my secret plan :doh: haha
Im excited for the spring if I get these parts! :rolling:

im excited for.....TOKICOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:Sigh: within a couple months....haha

I dont make my choices based on a sound. But the idea of a chirp sound is cool lol. Im a kid and i find putting turbo kits and checking what problems they might have later on sounds complex.
corolla from trd, and if i dont know any better. their pretty much same engines right?
I guess we will just wait and see lol

same size, different engine.

your better off understanding all this stuff while ur young, its easier to keep it in your head :P much easier then it seems too, a lot of it is simple physics and logic

thats for sure haha im trying to take in as much as possible...been trying to get a job at a garage or something but its hard, but i want to learn as much as possible. id like to work at parts/service for a dealership but i think for service you have to be ASE certified..(or some other equivalent certification). oh well...with time it may happen haha

Just gotta know people really for dealerships :\

oh..lol well then..maybe persistence will work..hahah

I dont make my choices based on a sound. But the idea of a chirp sound is cool lol. Im a kid and i find putting turbo kits and checking what problems they might have later on sounds complex.
corolla from trd, and if i dont know any better. their pretty much same engines right?
I guess we will just wait and see lol

same size, different engine.

your better off understanding all this stuff while ur young, its easier to keep it in your head :P much easier then it seems too, a lot of it is simple physics and logic

yeah, im trying to learn much as I can and maybe pass down wisdom lol, haha this just brings back when I was really young and into hondas (some are kool :P ) and nissans I learned all my engines from simple d16 engine to v-tec such as b,h,k series engines. and all skyline engines lol

but yea learnin is the way to go,

to trdxd: if you want to work at a dealership, best bet is to get certified but also have refrence or "connections". my cousins works for nissan and chrysler. They had good refrence from local garage shops or simple as from an auto-tech teacher at a high school. and theirs trade school lol

yeah i know about getting certified but im also in school trying to get my degree in automotive engineering...so...while i am taking classes that can GET me certified, i have so much crap that i have to complete for my major its not even funny. trying to see if anyone's willing to hire, but nope....i went through that phase too...started identifying every car that drove by (america/euro/japanese w/e it was i named it.) started learning engines/displacement numbers/whether they were turbo/sc/na...all that. then i actually got serious and started teaching myself the technical details. how install/uninstall/what needs to be fixed and why. been taking engine shop classes the past year, and am learning even more. i just want more hands on experience etc.

wow, i like where this kid is headed, first he wants to know how to go faster then 100 mph, now he is going to get a supercharger!

i wonder if i can set my VZ navigator to avoid him when i'm driving around.

rofl harsh.. :cautiously eyes xDkidd: but i see what you mean....................

wow, i like where this kid is headed, first he wants to know how to go faster then 100 mph, now he is going to get a supercharger!

i wonder if i can set my VZ navigator to avoid him when i'm driving around.
only cause im a kid and you have no life just cause I want more power out of my then just modifying, doesnt mean you can just come bashing down on me just to hear yourself in this thread, I bet your proud of yourself

i see what youre saying...looks like hes seeking you out on your posts now...its okay man. whether or not he thinks he has a point (whether it be valid or not) just ignore it if it ____es you off. its chill. just keep focused on what your plans are

excuse me for promoting safe driving practices in my neighborhood. glad to hear your a safe and reasonable driver most of the time who doesn't think he is a street racer.

no ones trying to come down on you for promoting safe driving (im certaintly not) so its chill..guess we should all just try and see things neutrally as often as possible...(though that can be quite hard since forums are for expressing opinion haha)

Confirmed that there will not be a supercharger for the xD anytime soon:



February 5, 2009 Page 1 of 1

TO: Scion Sales and Parts Managers
SUBJECT: Discontinuing Sale of Scion Superchargers

While TRD will always be committed to developing performance products when a strong business opportunity is present, current business conditions demand we discontinue the sale of Scion superchargers. Effective March 1, 2009, the following part numbers will no longer be offered:

Part Number Vehicle MY Description
PTR01-21050-90 tC '05-'06 Supercharger
PTR41-21005 tC '05-'06 Supercharger
PTR41-21070 tC '07-08 Supercharger
PTR41-21090 tC '09 Supercharger
PTR01-21051 tC All AT Fit Kit
PTR41-52080 xB '08 Supercharger
PTR41-52092 xB '09 Supercharger
PTR41-52091 xB All AT Fit Kit

All dealer inventory is considered saleable after March 1, 2009 and fully supported by service and warranty replacement parts. Warranty coverage is not affected and remains unchanged.

superchargers can come with just as many problems. Leaks become a MAJOR issue to superchargers, much more so than turbo's, and can absolutely ruin your air/fuel ratio. dust/dirt/and other small contaminates can also throw off your performance. there's no simple answer to anything, but i see what youre getting at. how many cars have you had? youre only 17 lol

Huh? Care to expand on this? From my experience (turbo and s/c) the supercharger requires much less monitoring, and is more set it and foreget it. This is mainly for the Eaton roots-style blowers, I don't understand why people use vortex ones. They have all the issues of a turbo, plus the belt slippage and fixed psi of a s/c. Eaton uses sealed bearings, so there's no oil feed line needed, and leaks aren't an issue as long as you intake piping is decent. The setups I've seen with the MP-series don't use post-s/c piping, it bolts directly to the intake manifold.

I am suprised no one has put out a custom S/C kit though using an Eaton MP62 with a Magnusun bypass valve on it. The Lotus Exige is running this exact configuration with a 1.8L Toyota 2ZZ. Maybe someone could mod the Lotus kit (no clue what the $$ would be); there's no intercooler piping to worry about.

If someone can weld an intake manifold to mount it to, pulley brackets would be easy. Custom pulley's will also only run a few hundred if you know the dimensions needed. Only other thing would be some custom intake piping and a piggyback harness for EFI.

damn :tap: , just wait and see if greddy or hks makes one

It's doubtful Greddy will. While they have experience with the Eaton blower from the 1gen xB, the only other supercharger they have is for the Celica, and the xB was probably also able to go on the bB since the manual lists the model as 02-05. There's no xD over there and the market here is probably too small. if you can find a willing shop custom wouldn't be too hard, just weld up an intake mani with a mounting plate for the blower. They make different shaft lengths so you can get it in-line with the belt and just use a larger belt, or run a multi-belt with a two-belt alternator pulley.

damn :tap: , just wait and see if greddy or hks makes one

Greddy=No

Don't forget, the company is almost non-existant now... They are completely bankrupt and fund NO R&D...

superchargers can come with just as many problems. Leaks become a MAJOR issue to superchargers, much more so than turbo's, and can absolutely ruin your air/fuel ratio. dust/dirt/and other small contaminates can also throw off your performance. there's no simple answer to anything, but i see what youre getting at. how many cars have you had? youre only 17 lol

Huh? Care to expand on this? From my experience (turbo and s/c) the supercharger requires much less monitoring, and is more set it and foreget it. This is mainly for the Eaton roots-style blowers, I don't understand why people use vortex ones. They have all the issues of a turbo, plus the belt slippage and fixed psi of a s/c. Eaton uses sealed bearings, so there's no oil feed line needed, and leaks aren't an issue as long as you intake piping is decent. The setups I've seen with the MP-series don't use post-s/c piping, it bolts directly to the intake manifold.

my point was there can still be problems with a S/C just as much as there is with a Turbo. I'm not saying it's more frequent, and I'm not saying they're just as needy for monitoring. I was just pointing out the fact that nothing is perfect, even with something that is normally easier to handle and maintain

well all ii can say now is that recession is ___! *no offence*

TRD will never come out with a SC for a car, theyve OFFICIALLY stopped making the SC for the tc and xb2, so basically watevers left out there in the dealers is wats left period kinda sux but also good considering all the crap those sc's put people threw

just because they cut SC's from the tC and xB doesn't mean that's it for the Toyota SC.... the Matrix also had a SC from TRD, so who know's if they're going to make one for that? Toyota seems to dabble in SC, and then run back over to Turbo every now and then. (example, MR2....MKI came out with S/C, and it had its own little problems, and then they turned to a Turbo for MKII, which they in turn decided to utilize in the Supra, and various other models at the time.)

toyota hasnt made a turbo car in years, when was th elast one the mr2? or supra? i cant remember theyve been more steady wit SC's then turbos lately (tundra,FJ cruiser etc.)

After February 27, 2009 Scion dealers in the US will not be able to purchase Scion Superchargers from TRD.

The Warranty and replacement parts will still be supported at the dealership level by Toyota/Scion.

Customers will still be able buy the superchargers as long as supplies last at the dealership level, but they have been discontinued and are limited to quantities on hand.

Ken
www.trdsparks.com

there done completely making superchargers for the scion brand, so i doubt theyll even try one for the xD considering they never took out one for the xb and xa either. in a good way its good considering the nightmare that the tc's had with that thing

well it would of been cool if it was compatible with blitz yaris s/c