Hey guys whats up? I decided to drop the rear section of my exhaust today out of curiousity and it actually sounds really good. I was impressed by the sound and it actually made it a little more peppy. The muffler on the TC is a beast so it has to be really restrictive. If you want sound but are on a budget just remove the rear section! It is not loud at all just has a really deep rumble once it is warmed up.

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

Ya, OK....Lets cut the back of our exaust out so it sounds good????

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Moron...

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

Ya, OK....Lets cut the back of our exaust out so it sounds good????

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Moron...

where do these people get their ideas? I mean seriously...

Fortune Cookies?!?

^^^ no doubt

dont forget to buy that fake turbo sound device off ebay........ your headed in the RICE direction

actually it is a very good idea, although you should put a "turn down" pipe on the end so the hot gasses go to the ground, not straight back under your fuel tank...
and yes it sounds killer:
mp3 of 2nd/3rd gears (http://jaguar.ir.miami.edu/~jjuroch/scion/2ndgear.mp3)
mp3 of acceleration from a stop (http://jaguar.ir.miami.edu/~jjuroch/scion/accelfromstop.mp3) <-- the mic clipped pretty hard..

Yes thats right dumbass I am heading in the rice direction. I have bought a $715 Creative Compacts exhaust and I dropped the rear section for a couple of days until it arrives. I was just informing people that it actually sounds good and frees up a little power. You people take things way too serious on here. My car is probably the least ricey of any TC on this board just look at it in the gallery.

rims are killer......nice ride

Hmm, drop the rear section and replace it w/ straight pipe? Hmm, ok. I wouldn't do it, but then again, I don't know squat about Scions or anything for that matter.

dUMBASS??? kid acting like he knows me or something... and how much hp is that creative compact exhaust gonna give you?? i havent seen a dyno sheet... and you calling me a dumbass when your paying $715 for a no name exhaust...... kids these days i tell ya :rofl:

i dont want to get in a yelling match, but i dont remember him asking for opinions on it. it may not be the best thing for the car or enviornment, but hey, its more custom than some peoples cars. its a little bit ricey but at least he has the balls to try things out. squirrel put an exhaust through the center of his bumper (which i like a lot btw, very sweet looking :bow: ) and nobody bagged on him for that. i think Supa's tC sounds pretty good for just a turn down. cant wait to hear the new exhaust once you get that too! kudos to trying something new and sweet looking car! :bow:

The reason I don't like the rear section being replaced by straight pipe, higher dB sound levels which equals grabbing a Police Officer's attention, no back pressure which also means a lag in throttle repsonse and prolly loss of low end torque, and on, and on, and on. Not too mention the interior cabin resonance.

Please make sure the exhaust dumps away from the car. Even idling at a stop light w/ the exhaust directly under the car can cause some carbon monoxide poisoning, and could lead to drowsiness or temp loss of consciousness.

Everyone has the choice on how they want to modify their ride. More power to you if you have the money to do some of the mods I can only dream of.

And yes SupaWhiteTc has a really nice looking tC also.

im not hatin on the kid but you just hate to see something like that done to a TC.... and it is a ricey... besides if he didnt want opinions then he shouldnt of posted....

Ya, OK....Lets cut the back of our exaust out so it sounds good????



Moron...
first off, dont be calling people morons. everyone has a right to modify their car how they want. and secondly, he removed the axle back, not cut the exhaust...keep the posts helpful

dUMBASS??? kid acting like he knows me or something... and how much hp is that creative compact exhaust gonna give you?? i havent seen a dyno sheet... and you calling me a dumbass when your paying $715 for a no name exhaust...... kids these days i tell ya :rofl:

"no name" exhausts can make just as much power, and in some cases more then big name brands... you're mostly just paying for the name and muffler.

big names aren't everything, just look at APC

hahaha butterfly marshmellow supreme! :rofl:

i dunno why i posted, just wanted to shut you people up.
stop the bickering.

1: calling people morons....not cool :no:
2: yes, if you make a post, be ready for people opinions.
3: get naked and DANCE!

relax people at least he drives a TC and not a Civic or Delsol!...not that there is anything wrong with civics or delsol.... :lalala:
hope i have lightened everyone mood.

3: get naked and DANCE!

i would but i don't want you to think i'm a whore

im not hatin on the kid but you just hate to see something like that done to a TC.... and it is a ricey... besides if he didnt want opinions then he shouldnt of posted....


Great give opinions not insults. :nope:

The axle back part is a bolt-on not like its hard or anything...
If i was going to take it to the track i'd remove the muffler and i'd suggest getting a turndown or straight pipe to get the hot gases away from the tank, like someone else said...

big names aren't everything, just look at APC

o hell no, u just mentioned the pep boys brand HAHAHA :rofl:

Another "Nicely-Working" exhaust system thrown to the trash can.

http://www.is300.net/forums/showthread.php?t=209937

[quote=kutsuju_dj]
big names aren't everything, just look at APC

o hell no, u just mentioned the pep boys brand HAHAHA :rofl:

you quoted the wrong person.... and APC shouldnt even be mentioned with the TC

im not hatin on the kid but you just hate to see something like that done to a TC.... and it is a ricey... besides if he didnt want opinions then he shouldnt of posted....


Great give opinions not insults. :nope:

how did i insult someone.. did i ever call anybody names??? scroll up and read everything back to yourself........ :nope:

dUMBASS??? kid acting like he knows me or something... and how much hp is that creative compact exhaust gonna give you?? i havent seen a dyno sheet... and you calling me a dumbass when your paying $715 for a no name exhaust...... kids these days i tell ya :rofl:

this is what you wrote. you called hiim a dumbass, and a "kid" who is acting like he knows something. i would call that insulting. and i brought up APC because not everything that is "no name" is crap, there are alot of "big name" companies that make nothing but crap

Like the other guy said most no name exhaust companies show better numbers on cars because they do a little more R&D than big name companies. All you pay for on that ___ ___ DC-Sports Axleback is the name stamped on the fart can. If you want real performance you need to research it and find what is best. I have searched long and hard to find the right exhaust for my car. Axlebacks are a worthless investment, because all they do is make sound and no power, since you still have 2 lo flow cats and one big ___ resonator. The new exhaust has a high flow cat no resonator and a Borla muffler, so I think it should add decent power.

Like the other guy said most no name exhaust companies show better numbers on cars because they do a little more R&D than big name companies. All you pay for on that ___ ___ DC-Sports Axleback is the name stamped on the fart can. If you want real performance you need to research it and find what is best. I have searched long and hard to find the right exhaust for my car. Axlebacks are a worthless investment, because all they do is make sound and no power, since you still have 2 lo flow cats and one big ___ resonator. The new exhaust has a high flow cat no resonator and a Borla muffler, so I think it should add decent power.

ok now show me ur "research" I would like to see some numbers from a reliable source. :blah:

dUMBASS??? kid acting like he knows me or something... and how much hp is that creative compact exhaust gonna give you?? i havent seen a dyno sheet... and you calling me a dumbass when your paying $715 for a no name exhaust...... kids these days i tell ya :rofl:

this is what you wrote. you called hiim a dumbass, and a "kid" who is acting like he knows something. i would call that insulting. and i brought up APC because not everything that is "no name" is crap, there are alot of "big name" companies that make nothing but crap

read it again there Einstein.. he called me a dumbass, i was just quoting him.... i never lowered myself down to name calling.. thats childish, hence the "Kid" phrase....... And as far as APC... that is the crapiest of crap... you cant even be considered in my car club if you have a product from them.... to each there own but I will not buy a product that dosent even have a dyno out and been tested.... and especially pay 715 for it when some other guy payed almost 100 dollars less..... ive heard it and yes it sounds pretty good... and ____ the exhaust may even be pretty damn good but 715 dollars for it? STI owneres dont even pay that much for a cat back on a stock 300 hp car..... yea it sucks that there really isnt ____ out there for the TC but im not gonna jump on a performance mod made buy a new company that dosent have a reputation..... i guess you can say that i dont wanna be the ginnie pig and im a name brand guy thats why i do a ton of research everyday and get frustrated everyday cuz there isnt ____ in my eyes worth buyinf for the TC yet...... so hey good luck to him and his 715 dollar exhaust, i aint hating nor do i actually really give a ____.... but when you post on a forum you cant expect everybody to love your post, or be nice.... its a forum....

Like the other guy said most no name exhaust companies show better numbers on cars because they do a little more R&D than big name companies. All you pay for on that ___ ___ DC-Sports Axleback is the name stamped on the fart can. If you want real performance you need to research it and find what is best. I have searched long and hard to find the right exhaust for my car. Axlebacks are a worthless investment, because all they do is make sound and no power, since you still have 2 lo flow cats and one big ___ resonator. The new exhaust has a high flow cat no resonator and a Borla muffler, so I think it should add decent power.

do you have numbers to prove otherwise... INjen and borla are said to put out about 6-8 hp..........

i remember talking to a kid that use washers to space his muffler away from the piping giving him the "sporty sound" he was looking for

wow

Yes thats right dumbass I am heading in the rice direction. I have bought a $715 Creative Compacts exhaust and I dropped the rear section for a couple of days until it arrives. I was just informing people that it actually sounds good and frees up a little power. You people take things way too serious on here. My car is probably the least ricey of any TC on this board just look at it in the gallery.

Thanks for the info... Actually, to my understanding that's one of the simplest and best performance mods you can do. Only, it's also illegal in most states, so most people are afraid to do it. Let us know how the new muffler works out, I'm thinking of replacing my axelback with something with less restriction...

And as far as APC... that is the crapiest of crap... you cant even be considered in my car club if you have a product from them.... to each there own but I will not buy a product that dosent even have a dyno out and been tested....

Correction: APC makes great quality bulbs, and a few nice grilles. Only problem is, they're the Tommy Hilfiger of 'performance' manufacturers; they make a knockoff then slap their logo all over it.

Although, I agree, they do put out a lot of crap.

They will have dynos for that exhaust in the next week or so. I am sure it will add way more than that junk ___ Borla exhaust or TRD.

:nope:

Geez! When did the tC section become the Ultimate Fighting Octogon?

I see more name calling and arguing on every post! Arguing about hp numbers, and mods, and racing stories, and brand names. You guys all need to relax!

To the original poster:
I've heard a few cars with no muffler, and some sound crappy, others sound good and deep. I'm glad to hear the tC sounds good. Let us know how your exhaust works out when it arrives.

-THE DON

Thank you for not hating on me.

I had to move my last car (01 GTI 1.8T) in the middle of an exhaust change. The only part off the car was the axle back. To me, the car sounded perfect. Ironically, the exhaust I ended up with was louder than I wanted. Go figure. Some folks are looking to buy axle back's, which do NOTHING other than make the car sound "sportier". Here is an alternative, for those willing to run without a muffler. Too many people are quick to jump on the "r*cer" bandwagon, and others are quick to be offended and name call. Now lets party like its 1999. :tap:

Good plan! But come to think of it nobody really partied any different in 1999.

Good plan! But come to think of it nobody really partied any different in 1999.

im sure at least one person did

http://www.asmallvictory.net/archives/prince.jpg

That is awesome!

why do people go in forums just to trash talk people...??


if you like the mod.. good

if you dont, then just state your opinion. no sarcaism needed.


forums dont need trash talking jerks.


so please, keep it clean!!

My friend's 350Z has his muffler removed.

SRT-4 has no muffler.

It's cool!

dont forget to buy that fake turbo sound device off ebay........ your headed in the RICE direction
:no: cmon guys everyones on here to help each other out. instead they just get bashed for their opinion. i know everyone can say what they want, this is a free country. but cant we keep the sarcastic comments to ourself's. unless you just have a dry sense of humor.

Supa i just have one question for you, have you already paid for the exhaust considering you havent seen the dyno results yet? I just hope you don't get burned like so many others i know. I have the TRD (Borla) cat back exhaust and it hasnt done me wrong yet.

Yes I already bought it. It should be here today or tomorrow. I don't care if it posts high numbers I just mainly want a nice sound. Exhausts don't add enough power to even notice usually. 10HP is not going to even be noticable when driving it.

10 hp is noticeable...

10 hp out of the exhaust alone is a lot actually.

10HP is not very noticable. If you weld on a fart can you will not notice any difference. Exhausts really only show big gains on turbo cars. NA cars benefit nothing from an exhaust for the most part.

Trust me, if its a decent exhaust, u'll notice a difference.

Supa i just have one question for you, have you already paid for the exhaust considering you havent seen the dyno results yet? I just hope you don't get burned like so many others i know. I have the TRD (Borla) cat back exhaust and it hasnt done me wrong yet.

i hate to tell you this but TRD(borla) doesn't have a cat-back system. they have an axleback system

OK I did this mod just because I hate flaming :tap: and I wanted to see exactly what no muffler sounded like......and I sold my TRD exhaust so it was a perfect oppourtunity to run around with no exhaust until tomorrow when i will put the stock exhaust back on.....


It actually sounds pretty good....in a loud open exhaust sort of way....its deeper sounding than the TRD exhaust but kinda raspy at certain RPM's......Props to SupaWhiteTc for taking a chance to see what it sounds like....

There isn't really any sort of performance increase at all....maybe a little in the higher rpm's....definately lacks in low end torque.....

Congrats to on the new exhaust....a little expensive for my tastes but sounds like it will be quality.....hope to hear sound clips soon.....


So to all you flamers.....flame away....i dont care.....

why did you get rid of your trd exhuast silverscion

Boy does this kid want sound or performance, he says in some parts the numbers don't matter and then he is talking about how many numbers it produces, what is it son sound or performance or both let us know. :rofl:

I was impressed by the sound and it actually made it a little more peppy. The muffler on the TC is a beast so it has to be really restrictive. .


I was just informing people that it actually sounds good and frees up a little power.

Like the other guy said most no name exhaust companies show better numbers on cars because they do a little more R&D than big name companies. . If you want real performance you need to research it and find what is best. I have searched long and hard to find the right exhaust for my car. Axlebacks are a worthless investment, because all they do is make sound and no power, The new exhaust has a high flow cat no resonator and a Borla muffler, so I think it should add decent power.

quote="SupaWhiteTc"]I don't care if it posts high numbers I just mainly want a nice sound. Exhausts don't add enough power to even notice usually. 10HP is not going to even be noticable when driving it.[/quote]


They will have dynos for that exhaust in the next week or so. I am sure it will add way more than that junk ___ Borla exhaust or TRD.

Wow you got rid of alot of your post there skinny.....I actually haven't gotten rid of it yet.....I have my stock exhaust on right now.....I was gonna go for something a little more custom but I dunno my plans may change.....

AND yes from my experience running around with no exhaust from the axel back it doesnt sound that bad once the car is warmed up and the butt dyno says there is a little bit more power up top....even my friends noticed it.....but low end torque dropped....

So I put my stock exhaust back on.....might go with TRD again....not sure at the moment.....I will probably use it until I can find someone to buy it locally.....I dunno...

well how much you want for your trd

Ah geez...you are gonna drag the true story out of me....

I actually sold it on eBay for 300 and went to ship it today....120 dollars just to ship it....UPS automatically assumes it weighs 85lbs just because of the size of the box.... :tap: ..... so I might keep it.....not sure....if you wanna spend 420 dollars on TRD exhaust be my guest.... :lalala:

FYI: Our exhaust produced 12hp and 9ft lbs.... I HAVE DYNO PLOTS Posted... You will feel this in your seat.

those are great numbers, but what I was saying is the kid said numbers were what he was wanting and then he said sound was what he was wanting and he was arguing about both so which does he want is what I was saying. I don't know what your numbers are until you post them, you say they are posted but where? link somewhere I'm guessing? Not going against you just him. And it better produce some numbers for dang 750 bucks, heck you can do any other exhaust and intake for that price and probably produce the same or more numbers and you have two parts instead of one

man, it got hot in here in no time. Believe it or not the tC does sound pretty dar good without the muffler. I did some testing on it a while back without the muffler. It sounded like a porsche racer!! You guys should try it sometime just to hear it. The two catalytic converters and the resinator help out with the sound note and HP IS actually gained!

Might have to start rethinking this cheap exhaust mod for sale. :D

Might have to start rethinking this cheap exhaust mod for sale.
you can use my car again if you need too :)

Thanks! But I think I have the mold down, but wanna use your car for another exhaust experiment though? 8)

OK... I have been reading alot of the forums lately and have noticed a few things.
First off, I do not post much do to the fact that I usually only post for good reasons.

Here you go. The flaming is not necessary. The guy did something to see what would happen while he waited for his exhaust. So what... You will come to learn that yes, he has lost his low end torque do to no back pressure, but in turn has most likely gained hp at high end. This means he will have a worse 60ft time but a better 60mph pull. There would prolly also be a drop in fuel economy, but who cares about that if you are in this section.
Now.. for you to say that an exhaust is not a good upgrade for a N/A (Naturally Aspirated i.e. non turbo/supercharged) car, is CRAZY... Look at a Mustang that can gain up to 80 hp from exhaust and headers.
If any of you have taken the muffler off the tC you would notice that the thing is a MONSTER!!! and is SURE to be a huge device for restriction. So is it a smart thing to do? All up to you. I did this to see what would happen because I am having an exhaust made by a custom shop here and wanted to see what the difference was.
Yes my 60mph pulls are alot better, Yes I have less torque, but still chirp 2nd. And believe it or not it doesnt sound too bad.. I am not going to by any means leave the car like this, I just like to find out by experimentation.

If you are a true car enthusiast you will realize that the tC hasnt been in the states long, and that the only way to further the process of the modification world it to TRY things. Or you can be a bolt on Queen and wait until everyone else does something and you can buy your parts and have them put on while that guy who is out there experimenting is still a car length ahead of you.

I commend you Supa.. I am glad to see you trying to help out the community. If anyone wants to flame me, go ahead. I will be sitting here laughing because you spend more time trying to find a way to bash on someone trying to help then you will spend trying to help out your own tC and the tC community..

wanna use your car for another exhaust experiment though? 8)
:bow:
yes yes yes :) check your PMs

OK... I have been reading alot of the forums lately and have noticed a few things.
First off, I do not post much do to the fact that I usually only post for good reasons.

There would prolly also be a drop in fuel economy, but who cares about that if you are in this section.

Now.. for you to say that an exhaust is not a good upgrade for a N/A (Naturally Aspirated i.e. non turbo/supercharged) car, is CRAZY... Look at a Mustang that can gain up to 80 hp from exhaust and headers.

If anyone wants to flame me, go ahead. I will be sitting here laughing because you spend more time trying to find a way to bash on someone trying to help then you will spend trying to help out your own tC and the tC community..

Well i like to make people laught, so ill try and do my best to flame you. First of of all, the reason that you dont post often is because you have no idea what your talking about . There would be no drop in fuel economy if the muffler was simply taken off, the drop in fuel economy is due to the fact that the driver must rev the engine higher to get the car going due to loss of low rpm horsepower due to the lack of back pressure. Secondly, there is no way in HELL that a non aspirated Mustang can get an additional 80 hp (even measured at the fly) from just an exhaust and headers. NO WAY IN HELL.

Thats about all i have to say, hope i kept you laughing.

hey first, that's pretty funny jrv and second, what factory sway bar are you talking about, the one that is already on the car, that everyone has? or another one like from hotchkis?

hey first, that's pretty funny jrv and second, what factory sway bar are you talking about, the one that is already on the car, that everyone has? or another one like from hotchkis?

Ya, I have the sway that comes stock on everyones car. No one probably wants or needs it, but i am hoping someone on this board might have some use for it.

the TRD exhaust is made by borla?!? I thought Borla already manufactures a exhaust...

SupaWhite - kudos for trying the tC without a muffler. I completely forgot about this. Does it sound close to what TRD muffler sounded? I bet it does...

Anyway - in 3 pages of flame everybody ignored one good post - about guys trying 2 different exhaust setups on IS300. Awesome article. A lot of time and money was spent doing research for it. Probably way way more money than CreativeCompacts spent on designing and dynoing their system. Look that article up - it's on the bottom of page 1 of this thread.

And when it comes to exhausts to get 10hp you have to sacrifice 90% of your comfort - I'd rather have 10hp less and be able to use the remaining horses without summoning entire city police force. Think about it - you are at the light and you want to show that beamer that you made a way smarter purchase - if your exhaust setup is quiet - you can do it and be safe, but with a loud exhaust you will have to be very careful to not add the "reckless driving" thing to your record. So yeah, exhaust stays stock.

Hey guys whats up? I decided to drop the rear section of my exhaust today out of curiousity and it actually sounds really good. I was impressed by the sound and it actually made it a little more peppy. The muffler on the TC is a beast so it has to be really restrictive. If you want sound but are on a budget just remove the rear section! It is not loud at all just has a really deep rumble once it is warmed up.

just an fyi .. i dyno'd 9hp at the wheels when i dropped the muffler off my 00' Celica GTS so i feel you man, not sure why everyone else was hatin :)

This post actually spured some curiosity in me this past weekend so I decided to drop the stock muffler myself. Took it off Friday night, drove to work Saturday morning and came back Saturday afternoon.......feeling really embarased.

Someone call John Deer, the car sounds like a piece of farm equipment without the muffler for gods sake! :doh:

I will say this, at idle the sound is pretty badass, but from there it just goes downhill.

Well i like to make people laught, so ill try and do my best to flame you. First of of all, the reason that you dont post often is because you have no idea what your talking about . There would be no drop in fuel economy if the muffler was simply taken off, the drop in fuel economy is due to the fact that the driver must rev the engine higher to get the car going due to loss of low rpm horsepower due to the lack of back pressure. Secondly, there is no way in HELL that a non aspirated Mustang can get an additional 80 hp (even measured at the fly) from just an exhaust and headers. NO WAY IN HELL.

Thats about all i have to say, hope i kept you laughing.

I will give you that a NATURALLY aspirated (non aspirated??) mustang, wont get 80hp gains from just exhaust and headers, but it will get around 20-30hp... I will say I was mistaken on that, but your fuel economy will go down without the extra backpressure. Think about it. First off you lose bottom end torque, while the computer in the car still thinks it will be burning the fuel that it isnt. Therefore your car will run rich. I have noticed a drop off in fuel economy since I took off the muffler. I give you kudos for the semi flame that you made, infact I think I cried a little bit. haha. I just cant stand people flaming someone for trying something different. I mean, come on. If someone isnt going to try something on their car then they have no right to bash someone who is experimenting.

Ya, OK....Lets cut the back of our exaust out so it sounds good????



Moron...
first off, dont be calling people morons. everyone has a right to modify their car how they want. and secondly, he removed the axle back, not cut the exhaust...keep the posts helpful

he has every right to call him a moron he dropped the rear section of his exhaust for no reason
and then he paid $700+ for a muffler
you could get your whole exhaust done for under $700 including the header

Figures someone from "terrible hole" would think of this one. You cruise the bash with the tail end of the exhaust off? do people point and chuckle at the lack of tailpipe? did they ever fix the stench of that town? Or did the chemicles dumped by BASF in the water rot your brain? If you can't afford a exhaust save up for one or don't get one. Blowing your exhaust to the ground just blinds the guy behind you. Oh yea you don't care about him/her they're behind you. right?
don't operate your car without your brain engaged

This post actually spured some curiosity in me this past weekend so I decided to drop the stock muffler myself. Took it off Friday night, drove to work Saturday morning and came back Saturday afternoon.......feeling really embarased.

Someone call John Deer, the car sounds like a piece of farm equipment without the muffler for gods sake! :doh:

I will say this, at idle the sound is pretty badass, but from there it just goes downhill.
that explains a lot farm boy want a sportier tractor maybe he should piant it john deere green :rofl:

And when it comes to exhausts to get 10hp you have to sacrifice 90% of your comfort - I'd rather have 10hp less and be able to use the remaining horses without summoning entire city police force. Think about it - you are at the light and you want to show that beamer that you made a way smarter purchase - if your exhaust setup is quiet - you can do it and be safe, but with a loud exhaust you will have to be very careful to not add the "reckless driving" thing to your record. So yeah, exhaust stays stock.
word! 8)

FYI: Our exhaust produced 12hp and 9ft lbs.... I HAVE DYNO PLOTS Posted... You will feel this in your seat.

actually, you just have a dyno plot of the car with the exhaust system. i have not seen a stock dyno plot yet.

i'd also like to mention that your car dyno'ed less whp with intake & exhaust then other tc's completely stock. seems very odd. perhaps your numbers are a little off?

Yes thats right dumbass I am heading in the rice direction. I have bought a $715 Creative Compacts exhaust and I dropped the rear section for a couple of days until it arrives. I was just informing people that it actually sounds good and frees up a little power. You people take things way too serious on here. My car is probably the least ricey of any TC on this board just look at it in the gallery.

seriously, people on this forum live here and feel good trippin over petty crap that noobs say, like they were never noobs, like that posting about how to remove the shift knob , calm down peoples u guys are seriously TRIPPIN...

seriously...
people have to calm down

yeah i noticed it has been getting a little hostile around here in almost every tc forum i havent checked the xa or xb ones but i know the tc ones are getting a littel angry

we're cool. . . no hatin there.

...but your fuel economy will go down without the extra backpressure. Think about it. First off you lose bottom end torque, while the computer in the car still thinks it will be burning the fuel that it isnt. Therefore your car will run rich.

Not bashing, but since when did your axleback become a MAF or OX sensor? The axleback doesn't measure anything. I'll give you that you may lose some low end, but your car WILL NOT run rich by removing/replacing the axleback.

If you can't afford a exhaust save up for one or don't get one. Blowing your exhaust to the ground just blinds the guy behind you. Oh yea you don't care about him/her they're behind you. right?
don't operate your car without your brain engaged

Dude, we're not driving 20 year old domestics, I doubt his car spews smoke like SpyHunter. Whats this about blinding people? Some car manufacturers (namely VW/Audi) actually have their exhaust tips pointed straight at the ground BEHIND the bumper on a TURBOCHARGED car. Are you talking about flames ala FNF? In your case, don't make statements with your brain engaged :doh:

your all a bunch of idiots if your taking up for some kid who dropped his exhaust because he thought it would sound fast and the furious rice way, you don't deserve to own tC's if your going to rice them out, I hate you people have parent's who will buy you cars and let you do whatever you want on them that you think is cool, well bring your piece of crap tC to Nopi and all of us who have any sense will be sitting on the winners stage while you sitting in the wrecker towing your piece of crap home because it won't start or your homemade front bumper is scraping the ground and you can't drive it home, make sure you turn your walmart underbody neons on to make sure folks see your car as it is getting towed so us other drivers don't damage our nice rides by hitting your piece of junk

dude, he is simply removing his exhuast, because his Creative Compacts exhaust hasn't arrived yet. Chill out.

hey can't you just drop it the day it comes in, it only takes a little bit, and dude who are you to be telling me to chill out, you drive a phucking xa

dude, relax man. You got some serious stress going on. I'm not attacking you, dunno why you are so defensive. Yeah, it makes more sense to wait for the exhaust. But he was probably bored and was messing around / a bit curious. It's not like he plans on keeping it that way, or is attaching giant wings and rattle cans.

hey can't you just drop it the day it comes in, it only takes a little bit, and dude who are you to be telling me to chill out, you drive a phucking xa

And you wonder why there is so much hostility towards tC owners? Rice isn't just about an ugly car (I hate rice just as much as you do), it's a state of mind. It's the whole "my car is better than yours" mentality. I drive a budget car; I know it, and I LOVE it. You drive a budget coupe. There's always something better, and when a Camaro SS pulls up next to you, and blows you away, you're going to be grouped into the same category as the riciest civic on the block. To 90% of other people, actually, you're no better than the guy with the dropped exhaust. Let ricers be rice, and do your own thing, and you'll look a helluva lot more mature than bickering pointlessly about absolutely nothing.

If you tuck away your attitude, maybe people will respect you.

and by the way, he already installed his exhaust!
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=50811

well i guess follow that thread!

locked!