View Full Version : windshield cracked today!!
240SXtoTC 03-21-2005, 06:13 PM i was driving on the e-way and out of nowhere i hear a crack sound coming from the far passenger side. i looked over and there is a spiderweb crack right along the very edge about halfway up the side pillar. the thing is, i didn't see any rock or anything flying at me and when i look at and rub my hand over the outside of the windshield there is absolutely no chip or crack on the outside of the glass. it's perfectly smooth but you can see the crack is kind of in the middle of the glass.
is it possible that my windshield just cracked on it's own!!?? that's f*#@ed up but that's what it seems like.
is this something the dealer may take care of? i was going to go straight there but figured it may be best to wait a bit cuz i'm kinda ____ed at the moment and i don't want to go off on someone.
mandos 03-21-2005, 06:19 PM oh...whoa whoa whoa...
Same thing just happened to mine. Haven't had a chance to take it into a dealer yet....
Almost the EXACT same place...
240SXtoTC 03-21-2005, 06:24 PM whaaaa??????????
i'll try to borrow a camera and take a pic sometime tonight.
i might just have to go over to the dealership now.
mandos 03-21-2005, 07:15 PM I need to look at mine closer...there's no rock chips anywhere on it...but it's possible there's one there.
I will try to get a picture as well.
mandos 03-21-2005, 07:36 PM BAH...my bad...mine is chipped....possibly the smallest rock chip ever about 1/4" from the edge of my windshield....takes off in 2 directions from there :(
240SXtoTC 03-22-2005, 12:46 AM they're saying it is from impact from a rock or something. they also agree that there is no damage or chip whatsoever to the outside of the glass.
i have to admit it does look like impact must have caused it because of the way it is spider-webbed, all cracks running from a central point (of impact?)
the service manager said that they probably can't do anything about it but will try to have his rep take a look at it and see what we can do. the technician that looked at it was a real _______ and got an attitude with me and i told him to go f*** himself. the other service people were real nice though.
i took it to an auto glass place who would work with my insurance company and it's not repairable. i need a whole new windshield.
i'm either stuck paying $1275 ($500 deductible and obviously have to file a claim which will screw with my insurance) to go with the oem 'asahi' glass or i can get some other kind (i think PPG) made in the US that is original equipment on toyotas that are assembled in the US for $475.
two final words. this blows.
mandos 03-22-2005, 12:49 AM they're saying it is from impact from a rock or something. they also agree that there is no damage or chip whatsoever to the outside of the glass.
i have to admit it does look like impact must have caused it because of the way it is spider-webbed, all cracks running from a central point (of impact?)
the service manager said that they probably can't do anything about it but will try to have his rep take a look at it and see what we can do. the technician that looked at it was a real _______ and got an attitude with me and i told him to go f*** himself. the other service people were real nice though.
i took it to an auto glass place who would work with my insurance company and it's not repairable. i need a whole new windshield.
i'm either stuck paying $1275 ($500 deductible and obviously have to file a claim which will screw with my insurance) to go with the oem 'asahi' glass or i can get some other kind (i think PPG) made in the US that is original equipment on toyotas that are assembled in the US for $475.
two final words. this blows.
WHOA....$1275 for the windshield?
I was quoted at $365 from a local body shop...only one w/ a tC windshield.
Swanny 03-22-2005, 12:55 AM Sorry to here that. I have a bunch of big nicks in the center of my windshild from a large rock hitting it, didn't crack though. I'm also going to have to have mine fixed soon and I'm going to go with PPG if possible. My family has had quite a few windshilds replace and PPG's always work out real well, most of the time better then OEM. Good luck with whatever why you get it fixed, let us know how it goes. I'm not looking forward to someone messing with my car when they fix the windshild, but oh well.
trench 03-22-2005, 01:40 AM Ouch. I had a hairline crack on my windshild when I owned my acura vigor. It started small and grew until it had to be replaced. DONT WAIT! Get it checked out ASAP
TurboMe 03-22-2005, 02:41 AM theres stuff that you can put on to prevent it from cracking more.
engifineer 03-22-2005, 03:19 AM they're saying it is from impact from a rock or something. they also agree that there is no damage or chip whatsoever to the outside of the glass.
i have to admit it does look like impact must have caused it because of the way it is spider-webbed, all cracks running from a central point (of impact?)
the service manager said that they probably can't do anything about it but will try to have his rep take a look at it and see what we can do. the technician that looked at it was a real _______ and got an attitude with me and i told him to go f*** himself. the other service people were real nice though.
i took it to an auto glass place who would work with my insurance company and it's not repairable. i need a whole new windshield.
i'm either stuck paying $1275 ($500 deductible and obviously have to file a claim which will screw with my insurance) to go with the oem 'asahi' glass or i can get some other kind (i think PPG) made in the US that is original equipment on toyotas that are assembled in the US for $475.
two final words. this blows.
WHOA....$1275 for the windshield?
I was quoted at $365 from a local body shop...only one w/ a tC windshield.
Make sure it is a QUALITY replacement being that cheap. Same thickness and spec as factory glass. It is not uncommon at all for a windshield replacement to cost 1000 - 2000 dollars, so be leary of that cheap glass. I have heard stories of cheap replacement glass having terrible visual qualities as well as cracking/breaking easily!
engifineer 03-22-2005, 03:22 AM they're saying it is from impact from a rock or something. they also agree that there is no damage or chip whatsoever to the outside of the glass.
i have to admit it does look like impact must have caused it because of the way it is spider-webbed, all cracks running from a central point (of impact?)
the service manager said that they probably can't do anything about it but will try to have his rep take a look at it and see what we can do. the technician that looked at it was a real _______ and got an attitude with me and i told him to go f*** himself. the other service people were real nice though.
i took it to an auto glass place who would work with my insurance company and it's not repairable. i need a whole new windshield.
i'm either stuck paying $1275 ($500 deductible and obviously have to file a claim which will screw with my insurance) to go with the oem 'asahi' glass or i can get some other kind (i think PPG) made in the US that is original equipment on toyotas that are assembled in the US for $475.
two final words. this blows.
Your full coverage did not come with unlimited glass coverage?? Most insurance companies I know of provide that with the comprehensive coverage. Does not have a deductable and does not affect your policy. Check it out to see if you have it. I know that last time I shopped for insurance it came with all of the comp policies no matter what.
mandos 03-22-2005, 02:21 PM they're saying it is from impact from a rock or something. they also agree that there is no damage or chip whatsoever to the outside of the glass.
i have to admit it does look like impact must have caused it because of the way it is spider-webbed, all cracks running from a central point (of impact?)
the service manager said that they probably can't do anything about it but will try to have his rep take a look at it and see what we can do. the technician that looked at it was a real _______ and got an attitude with me and i told him to go f*** himself. the other service people were real nice though.
i took it to an auto glass place who would work with my insurance company and it's not repairable. i need a whole new windshield.
i'm either stuck paying $1275 ($500 deductible and obviously have to file a claim which will screw with my insurance) to go with the oem 'asahi' glass or i can get some other kind (i think PPG) made in the US that is original equipment on toyotas that are assembled in the US for $475.
two final words. this blows.
Your full coverage did not come with unlimited glass coverage?? Most insurance companies I know of provide that with the comprehensive coverage. Does not have a deductable and does not affect your policy. Check it out to see if you have it. I know that last time I shopped for insurance it came with all of the comp policies no matter what.
I wish my parents would've been that smart. They've still got me on their plan until I move in a month and they have a $500 deductible now....even on glass :(
nizzle 03-22-2005, 02:25 PM damn that sucks
IndigoDreams 03-22-2005, 03:20 PM theres stuff that you can put on to prevent it from cracking more.
how are you going to put something on a crack that is in the inside of the glass???? the stuff your speaking of only does good if the crack is on the outside of the glass on the exterrior or interrior of the car
Captain_tC 03-22-2005, 03:50 PM My windshield cracked last week. I was quoted close to $1300 as well. There are aftermarket glasses you can get installed for around $300. But I read some stuff about the windshield being a vital support structure for the car, preventing the roof from caving in and all. So Ive decided to use my insurance and pay a deductable to get the factory glass and seal. It definitely sucks. My car is only 4 months old and it is hurt already.
Oh, dont bother trying to get it warranteed. Dealers will straight up tell you "NO". Ive tried.
mandos 03-22-2005, 04:16 PM Yeah...the crap thing about mine...lasted about a month :(
BAH....I wonder if I go get insurance on my own w/ no glass deductible...then do it....does someone look at your car first?
Captain_tC 03-22-2005, 04:32 PM i was driving on the e-way and out of nowhere i hear a crack sound coming from the far passenger side. i looked over and there is a spiderweb crack right along the very edge about halfway up the side pillar. it's perfectly smooth but you can see the crack is kind of in the middle of the glass.
oh...whoa whoa whoa...
Same thing just happened to mine. Haven't had a chance to take it into a dealer yet....
Almost the EXACT same place...
Hold up! Is it a coincidence that all 3 of us have the crack in the same spot? Mine is passenger side middle right along the edge. Can we say DEFECT!?!?!
mandos 03-22-2005, 04:53 PM i was driving on the e-way and out of nowhere i hear a crack sound coming from the far passenger side. i looked over and there is a spiderweb crack right along the very edge about halfway up the side pillar. it's perfectly smooth but you can see the crack is kind of in the middle of the glass.
oh...whoa whoa whoa...
Same thing just happened to mine. Haven't had a chance to take it into a dealer yet....
Almost the EXACT same place...
Hold up! Is it a coincidence that all 3 of us have the crack in the same spot? Mine is passenger side middle right along the edge. Can we say DEFECT!?!?!
That's what I thought....except you can see the impact crater near the edge of the glass....so a rock did whack it....just got stressed after the chip and blew up :(
Hmm....$365 for crap glass or $500 deductible for OEM....hmm....
jaewon223 03-22-2005, 04:59 PM that is some crazy coincidence :nails:
TheFly 03-22-2005, 05:03 PM that is some crazy coincidence :nails:
Maybe they were all driving behind the same make and model car, at the same distance and speed, which would throw the rock at an identical angle?
HMMMMM. . . . We need to call CSI out on this bish!
Captain_tC 03-22-2005, 05:33 PM Yes you can see a very tiny pebble mark on mine as well. However, windshields are suppose to be able to tolerate some rock damage as part of normal daily driving. Its designed that way. The fact that all of our cars are pretty new and have a crack in the same spot is suspicious. Perhaps its a weak spot near the passenger side middle edge? Ok I know Im stretching a little now. Its the engineer side of me that likes to problem solve he..he.
Im replacing it when OEM this one time. If this crap happens again, im going with the aftermarket from then on.
lvnurs9 03-22-2005, 07:05 PM i had a star in mine that spead across the whole windshield last week...new one came in today.
mandos 03-22-2005, 07:12 PM Ok....That whole weak point theory is good...I was just going to post on that...
Is it normal when you crack your windshield...then say...get on the interstate going 45 around the on ramp(270 degree turn) that the crack then extends itself 8" across the glass? I did that...heard a pop from over there and sure enough, the crack doubled in length. I know the glass is weakened...but still...should that happen?
Captain_tC 03-23-2005, 01:56 AM Yeah the crack does grow. Mine was originally 4 inches, now it is 9 inches. It can either grow with change in temperature or stress from driving.
Im just ____ed because windshields are designed to take some abuse. Mine didnt hold up well at all considering it is only 4 months old.
Whocares05050 03-23-2005, 02:25 AM that sucks
240SXtoTC 03-25-2005, 01:33 AM i think i'm just going to go with the PPG glass. the quality should be just as good as OEM if not better. toyota does not actually make the glass whether it is in japan or in the US. in japan, a company named asahi makes it. in the US, PPG makes it for toyotas. i want to avoid filing an insurance claim and it'll also be less money out of my pocket.
you guys are right that a windshield should be able to take some abuse. i don't feel like i should have to dump $500 into my car three weeks after buying it! :no:
X_cement_filled_tC_X 03-25-2005, 06:02 AM my windshield actually did the same thing when i turned the climate control on in the cold, split my windshield all the way across. i went into scion/toyota and complained. the parts department manager refused to help me, so i contacted the regional manager, and told him the problem, and the lack of help i was getting from the service department at the dealer. he immediately let the dealership know they would be replacing my windshield. 1 week later, BAM! new windshield. no problems since.
X-eric-X
Stinky_Wizzleteats 03-29-2005, 09:53 PM So its my understanding that if you get a chip from road debris, even the size of a pinhead, and it causes a crack which spreads 8 inches..... you're FUBARed.
I noticed a chip in the windshield this morning.... this is what it looks like 5 hours later:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/dick_strokum/DSCF0015.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/dick_strokum/DSCF0014.jpg
Went by the dealer and the guy says: "Yeah man, that rock must have hit a sweet spot or something." Hah hah, no ____.
They swore up and down that warranty won't cover this and because of the length of the crack I'll have to have a new one put in... to the tune of 997 dollars for the windshield and 195 installation.....
MY ___!!
I just put my first payment in the mail yesterday too damnit.
EDIT: I just got off the phone with James from Scion. He confirmed that if a "foreign object" struck my car and caused damage it is not covered by the 36 month warranty. If it were a manufacturer defect, then yes, they would have to fix it. But since it was a chip that spread, I'm just assed out. GRRRRR
TC_Sweetie 03-30-2005, 02:23 AM So its my understanding that if you get a chip from road debris, even the size of a pinhead, and it causes a crack which spreads 8 inches..... you're FUBARed.
I noticed a chip in the windshield this morning.... this is what it looks like 5 hours later:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/dick_strokum/DSCF0015.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/dick_strokum/DSCF0014.jpg
Went by the dealer and the guy says: "Yeah man, that rock must have hit a sweet spot or something." Hah hah, no ____.
They swore up and down that warranty won't cover this and because of the length of the crack I'll have to have a new one put in... to the tune of 997 dollars for the windshield and 195 installation.....
MY ___!!
I just put my first payment in the mail yesterday too damnit.
EDIT: I just got off the phone with James from Scion. He confirmed that if a "foreign object" struck my car and caused damage it is not covered by the 36 month warranty. If it were a manufacturer defect, then yes, they would have to fix it. But since it was a chip that spread, I'm just assed out. GRRRRR
Right, in order to be covered for any windshield damage you woulda had to pay extra to be covered... They offered it to me + some type of rim repair if i scraped them and i think roadside assistance was the package... I cant remember exactly, this was last July but yeah that's like running over your cell phone and wanting your cell phone company to replace it cuz you ran it over. Not happenin.
Scion didnt cause the rock to hit your car.. you are Fubar'D after all :P and also why isnt your insurance covering that for you?
engifineer 03-30-2005, 02:29 AM So its my understanding that if you get a chip from road debris, even the size of a pinhead, and it causes a crack which spreads 8 inches..... you're FUBARed.
I noticed a chip in the windshield this morning.... this is what it looks like 5 hours later:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/dick_strokum/DSCF0015.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/dick_strokum/DSCF0014.jpg
Went by the dealer and the guy says: "Yeah man, that rock must have hit a sweet spot or something." Hah hah, no ____.
They swore up and down that warranty won't cover this and because of the length of the crack I'll have to have a new one put in... to the tune of 997 dollars for the windshield and 195 installation.....
MY ___!!
I just put my first payment in the mail yesterday too damnit.
EDIT: I just got off the phone with James from Scion. He confirmed that if a "foreign object" struck my car and caused damage it is not covered by the 36 month warranty. If it were a manufacturer defect, then yes, they would have to fix it. But since it was a chip that spread, I'm just assed out. GRRRRR
Call your insurance. I know mine, as well as many of the major insurance companies include glass coverage with your comp insurance. There is no deductable on the glass.
idriveatC 03-30-2005, 04:00 AM my windshield got a 1cm hole in it. I was driving and a pebble went right into the windsheild. I didnt notice for a while but whenever it rains my wipers would leave a line and i would wonder why does my wipers suck. I was washing the car and i then found out why wont this black dot rrub off. So i use my nails and dug it out. Thats when i found out it was a rock and it went thur the windshiled.
mfbenson 03-30-2005, 04:22 AM One thing about windshield replacement is to make sure the shop that does it knows what they are doing, and when you get the car back take it out on the highway and get it up to speed to make sure there are no funny noises that same day. We had a 99 corolla that needed the windshield replaced from a stress crack, and when they replaced the windshield we got it back and thought nothing of it. The car was used almost entirely for driving in town only, but about a month later we took it on the highway and noticed this odd, loud, high-pitched harmonica noise. Couldn't figure it out for the longest time but we eventually realized it was from the bad windshield install. How annoying.
Stinky_Wizzleteats 03-30-2005, 02:12 PM I called up my insurance and they didn't have a specific glass coverage, it was just thrown in with comprehensive coverage. Using Safelite, they quoted me about 300 bucks for an install and they'd come out to my house today. Unfortunately they only repair windshields for free, replacements are weighed into my deductable, which is 500 dollars, so I'm footing this bill today.
It is also going to be an aftermarket windshield. If the OEM windsheild split and cracked from a tiny rock chip, then I'm going to try an aftermarket one. IMO, windshields are designed to resist hazards such as rocks and debris.... not crack and break every time something taps it hard enough.
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