So its finally time to buy wheels. Car will be locked up for the winter so theres no worries of snow damaging the wheels.

I'm thinking bronze on blue is a good color combination...and now I'm having trouble choosing what wheels I want.

I really like the Work Emotion XD-9 in 18" x 9 (because 10" is too wide and they dont make 9.5")

They come in the following offsets
+43 +38 +30 +20
http://www.workwheelsusa.com/media/wheels/27/79/wheelImage.png

other choices include Work Emotion CR-Kai in 18" x 9.5

http://www.workwheelsusa.com/media/wheels/27/80/wheelImage.png

+38 +30 +20 +12

what is the optimal offset? I have stock calipers.

if anyone can recommend another bronze wheel (with exception of BBS, or anything 3-piece, let me know)

I'll be wrapping them in Michelins.

i have cr-kai's 18x9.5 +30 gun metal...
fitment? no problemo at all...
with blue luggies. free! :D idk if they still have the free luggies...

i have cr-kai's 18x9.5 +30 gun metal...
fitment? no problemo at all...
with blue luggies. free! :D idk if they still have the free luggies...

why did you go with the +30's instead of the +38?

I know +43's might be cutting it too close.

oh, and lugs are still free. Do they have a wheel lock?

So its finally time to buy wheels. Car will be locked up for the winter so theres no worries of snow damaging the wheels.

I'm thinking bronze on blue is a good color combination...and now I'm having trouble choosing what wheels I want.

I really like the Work Emotion XD-9 in 18" x 9 (because 10" is too wide and they dont make 9.5")

They come in the following offsets
+43 +38 +30 +20
http://www.workwheelsusa.com/media/wheels/27/79/wheelImage.png

other choices include Work Emotion CR-Kai in 18" x 9.5

http://www.workwheelsusa.com/media/wheels/27/80/wheelImage.png

+38 +30 +20 +12

what is the optimal offset? I have stock calipers.

if anyone can recommend another bronze wheel (with exception of BBS, or anything 3-piece, let me know)

I'll be wrapping them in Michelins.


Optimal for flushness or maintaining the same forces exerted in the axle ball bearing?

+20 and +12 are no good they will completely change the handling/forces on the bearing

first i bought +38. but it's not flush enough for me. and everyone HERE said i should have got the +30. i asked the guy where i bought if i can switch it to +30. he said to bring it there, they'll send it to works so that they can check if it's okay with works. i got the good news, works approve to switch it to +30. added less than $100 to the original payment(from the +38 ). oh and no tax by paying cash. which saves me more than $100... :D

first i bought +38. but then again, it's not flush enough for me. and everyone HERE said i should have got the +30. i asked the guy where i bought if i can switch it to +30. he said to bring it there, they'll send it to works so that they can check if it's okay to them. i got the good news, works approve to switch it to +30. added less than $100 to the original payment(from the +38). oh and no tax by paying cash... :D

so lower offset costs more? The shops I'm looking at charge the same no matter the offset. Do you have before and after pictures?

so I guess the question is +43 +38 +30?

wheels with lips usually have lower offsets - so usually wheels with lips will be more flush. just by looking at numbers 30 should be the best for flushness. Ill do some calculations later. what are you dropped on?

oh shnaps i forgot, first is "8.5" +38 that's why its cheaper.

+30 has deeper concave than +38 btw...
no lip on cr kai's...

it's on my build thread.
click my sig...

oh and i forgot who it is, but someone bought cr-kai's bronze before me. his car is blue as well...

hey mr. black 'n blue, will you calculate mine too? lolz 18x9.5 +30. TRD springs. i'll put 235/40 or 245/40. thanks

I'd go with the +30. If you want to see how the CR Kai's in Bronze look like on a Nautical Blue Metallic tC2, check out my build thread on the last page or so. They aren't the same size, although, I am running spacers. 15mm up front and 25mm rear.

I'd go with the +30. If you want to see how the CR Kai's in Bronze look like on a Nautical Blue Metallic tC2, check out my build thread on the last page or so. They aren't the same size, although, I am running spacers. 15mm up front and 25mm rear.


there ya go. i knew it was 0iQ. ahaahaha

wheels with lips usually have lower offsets - so usually wheels with lips will be more flush. just by looking at numbers 30 should be the best for flushness. Ill do some calculations later. what are you dropped on?

+30 it is then!

the xd9's look really good on this camry.
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=204142

And I'm not dropped on anything. I'll probably drop 1" in the summer on TRD springs. I don't want to have to roll fenders...

i like the look of the emotions a bit more than the other

Emotion 11r is a nice choice too.

Between those 2..really for me it boils down to either you want a wheel with a lip (XD9) or do you prefer a concave face (cr kai)

i almost got 11r btw. because i want a black wheel. but yeah end up with cr-kai's

I was actually thinking of the 11r's for my rex but we'll see.

Emotion 11r is a nice choice too.

Between those 2..really for me it boils down to either you want a wheel with a lip (XD9) or do you prefer a concave face (cr kai)

I prefer the lip, and straight even spokes. I put them on my tC in forza and am liking the look of them.

Also I dont want my wheels to stick out (the rear is already wide enough), so flushness is essential.

cr-kai's +32 is flat btw... if you're planning to get bbk soon, get the flat one. just sayin.

cr-kai's +32 is flat btw... if you're planning to get bbk soon, get the flat one. just sayin.

Here's the spec sheet. I can't find a +32 flat face...

http://www.workwheelsusa.com/media/wheels/27/80/WORK%20Emotion%20CR%20Kai%20Spec.pdf

I think I'll be going for a bronze wheel with some lip

oh nvm... that's on 8.5... :D mah bad. i got it all mixed up from the start...

so what you gonna get then? XD-9?

oh nvm... that's on 8.5... :D mah bad. i got it all mixed up from the start...

so what you gonna get then? XD-9?

Most likely. Unless something else catches my eye.

alex so which ones did u want to get? staggered?

John, y do u want me calculating stuff when u already got the rims on and they r poking since you got a 9.1cm front space.

as for tires:
go to http://www.1010tires.com/tiresizecalculator.asp and calculate the tire u need to keep the same rolling diameter. its hard to tell if rubber will rub because pressure varies with temp and load. you have the wheels on right now so you can eye ball/measure how close u r to rubbing.

or just roll fenders! that's what im planing on doing on mine

alex so which ones did u want to get? staggered?

John, y do u want me calculating stuff when u already got the rims on and they r poking since you got a 9.1cm front space.

as for tires:
go to http://www.1010tires.com/tiresizecalculator.asp and calculate the tire u need to keep the same rolling diameter. its hard to tell if rubber will rub because pressure varies with temp and load. you have the wheels on right now so you can eye ball/measure how close u r to rubbing.

or just roll fenders! that's what im planing on doing on mine

XD9 18"x9 +30 offset all around. I'll also probably get meatier tires since DC doesn't have the best roads.

What would be the best tire to stay within 3% of the original diameter?

it seems that the best would be 245/40/18 to be within 1.01% of the original diameter

with those wheels you will have 8.4cm front space

u need to ~7.1-7.3 to flush fronts on TRDs with Auto(auto adds 100lbs which means u need a milimeter or 2 more to flush as apposed to manual)

8.1-8.4 to flush rears


take a look at ZeroEye build, he is on TRDs and has 8.4cm front space in the front.


and btw this thread http://www.scionlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209838
was created specifically for figuring if wheels fit or how flush

Agreed on the 245/40/18 tires, donn't go any lower on offset though. That is a pretty fat tire, it would be very close to rubbing on harsh bumps and such. That width, offset and tire size combined with your drop will look sweet. It will give you just enough clearance if you want a bit bigger tire or more low later on.

with those wheels you will have 8.4cm front space

u need to ~7.1-7.3 to flush fronts on TRDs with Auto(auto adds 100lbs which means u need a milimeter or 2 more to flush as apposed to manual)

8.1-8.4 to flush rears


take a look at ZeroEye build, he is on TRDs and has 8.4cm front space in the front.


and btw this thread http://www.scionlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209838
was created specifically for figuring if wheels fit or how flush

Just called my distributor and will be putting them on order soon.

@scion202 what can I do to be more flush? I'm not using spacers

you will be poking a bit in the fronts and flush in the rear as it is. if you wanna poke in the rear then use 3-5mm pacers

you will be poking a bit in the fronts and flush in the rear as it is. if you wanna poke in the rear then use 3-5mm pacers

I think thats the look im going for. The car is wider in the back anyway. If I ever get the 5-axis kit, then the lip/ sideskirt combination won't make it seem like its poking out as much. How much do you expect it to poke out of the front?

it will depend on the tire size. but as far as the rim goes, it will be anywhere from 0.7 to 1cm. ask ZeroEye for a picture of his front it should be the same within a millimeter or 2

245/40/18...not sacrificing too much profile for added width. 1cm is not much to worry about.

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/302530_10150846045885711_511390710_21289697_758551396_n.jpg

thats the front poke ur gonna have

Wheels and tires :0

http://www.ravspeconline.com/shop/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=785&products_id=2720&manufacturers_id=

$2400!

$2400!

Idk much about tires but are hankooks good? I wanted to go with some michelin pilots

will the stock lugs fit on those wheels? or should I buy the ones work makes

Stock lugs will not work

Stock lugs will not work

ok. I'll just buy the work ones then. How agressive is 18x9.5 +38. I don't want my wheels poking out, but thats the size I found a good deal on.

imagine a 6mm from fender to outside...

front will be same as Zeroeye --> poking by about 10mm

rear should be just perfect -+2mm