View Full Version : Mudguard Install


JasonH
07-24-2004, 09:03 PM
Okay, I'm back and have just installed the factory mudguards (ordered from McGeorge Parts (http://www.mcgeorgeparts.com) for $27.60 + $5 shipping.) They come in a set of four, and require drilling some holes in the rear bumper cover plastic. It only took about 30 minutes including taking the pictures.

Parts:
http://www.scionlife.com/tech/images/mud_flap_tc/parts3.jpg

I followed the instructions that came with the mudguards, but I'll include a few tips.

We'll start with the fronts, since they're easiest. First off, the instructions don't tell you to remove the wheels or jack the car up, so I didn't. You can turn the front wheels all the way toward the side you're installing the mudguard on and that will give you enough room to work. One of the screws is vertical, under the car, so a short screwdriver or right-angle screwdriver is needed. I cleaned the surfaces where the mudgaurds go with some Windex on a rag. They're not adhesive or anything, so this was just to keep any dirt from being trapped underneath. You remove the two screws that are already there, put the mudguard in position, reinstall those two screws then attach the upper screw which is provided with the kit. There is already a plastic grommet with a hole that the screw goes into. Hold the mudguard tight against the body when you tighten the screws so you don't get gaps. Any gap more than 1mm and you should probably losen the screws and adjust it.

Pics of the front...

Before:
http://www.scionlife.com/tech/images/mud_flap_tc/front-before1.jpg

http://www.scionlife.com/tech/images/mud_flap_tc/front-before2.jpg

Wheels turned:
http://www.scionlife.com/tech/images/mud_flap_tc/front-turned1.jpg

http://www.scionlife.com/tech/images/mud_flap_tc/front-turned2.jpg


After:
http://www.scionlife.com/tech/images/mud_flap_tc/front-after1.jpg

http://www.scionlife.com/tech/images/mud_flap_tc/front-after2.jpg

http://www.scionlife.com/tech/images/mud_flap_tc/front-after3.jpg

http://www.scionlife.com/tech/images/mud_flap_tc/front-after4.jpg

http://www.scionlife.com/tech/images/mud_flap_tc/front-after5.jpg

You obviously can't turn the rears, but there was enough room to do the installation with minimal fuss. If your drill is pretty big, you might have to angle it some, but it doesn't matter too much. I suppose you could jack up the car and remove the wheel, but I don't think it's necessary. You start by removing the push-pin under the bumper cover (see first picture below.) It holds the inner and outer bumper plastic together. A small flat screwdriver makes it easy. Then you position the mudguard and install the new plastic pin which screws in. Now that the mudguard is in place, you can drill holes. (Drill holes?? In my new car?!!! Well, yes, but, it's pretty easy. Plus, you're only drilling plastic, and you'll never see the holes, so as long as you don't go crazy, it's pretty hard to screw up.) Using a drill bit close to 6mm (I think mine was 7/32) hold the mudgaurd tightly to the body and drill your holes through the holes in the mudguard. Don't worry about drilling too far. If you don't drill through both the outer and inner plastic, the tip of the screw will push against the inner part. It's not a big deal, but it pushes the inner plastic away from the outer enough that dirt and stuff could easily collect in there. Better to just go gung-ho through both pieces. After your holes are drilled, you slide the "U-nuts" (look like the things that come with most aftermarket speakers to secure them to panels) over the outer bumper cover. Be sure the part with the "threads" is behind the cover. Now you just hold the muguard tight to the bumper cover and attach your screws.

Pics of the rear...

Rear push pin:
http://www.scionlife.com/tech/images/mud_flap_tc/rear-pin.jpg

Before:
http://www.scionlife.com/tech/images/mud_flap_tc/rear-before.jpg

During:
http://www.scionlife.com/tech/images/mud_flap_tc/rear-drilling.jpg

http://www.scionlife.com/tech/images/mud_flap_tc/rear-panelnuts.jpg

After:
http://www.scionlife.com/tech/images/mud_flap_tc/rear-after1.jpg

http://www.scionlife.com/tech/images/mud_flap_tc/rear-after2.jpg

http://www.scionlife.com/tech/images/mud_flap_tc/rear-after3.jpg


So, all in all, pretty easy. I like the way they look, especially on a dark car. You really don't notice them. And if you think you don't need them, just look at your side sills behind the front wheels. Mine already had a couple nicks, along with what appeared to be tire rubber (I wonder where that came from :twisted:.)

Finished Pics:
http://www.scionlife.com/tech/images/mud_flap_tc/side-front-after.jpg

http://www.scionlife.com/tech/images/mud_flap_tc/side-rear-after1.jpg

http://www.scionlife.com/tech/images/mud_flap_tc/side-rear-after2.jpg

2JZ
07-25-2004, 04:24 AM
wish there was a way to install this over the bodykit...

skyon
07-25-2004, 06:27 AM
Put my wheel locks and mud guards on last Tuesday and they look good. The guards don't detract from the style of the car at all. I highly recommend them.

Love my Dark Cherry Pearl!!!

bofa
07-25-2004, 05:46 PM
yeah.. I like the way they blend in with the tires kinda.. Now I'm gonna order mine.

TCMaster
07-25-2004, 06:02 PM
When I get my car, mud flaps are deffinately on the list. Not from the dealer. From that website.

JasonH
07-26-2004, 10:35 PM
hey do me a favor, next time you wash ur car, bend ur knees and wash under it, i saw some waterspot/dirt droplet things under there :lol: sweet car
Next time will be the first time. :D

I think the mudguards look great on dark cars. They just kind of blend in. On the lighter cars you'd have to decide for youself since they are more obvious.

Rice_Kake
07-26-2004, 11:56 PM
Yeah, I just ordered mine (thanx 4 the link) and now Im looking at mine Silver Streak and wondering how much its going to stand out. Although it looks like it only sticks out a couple of inches.

silverstreakersc
07-27-2004, 03:11 AM
Is the material paintable, I would like to color match the exterior side(side opposite of the tire) with the color of the car. I think it would look 10x better.

2JZ
07-27-2004, 03:50 AM
i was thinking the same too...

was going to take a look at them and see if i may be able to modify it a bit to fit over the bodykit

JasonH
07-27-2004, 04:32 AM
Paintable, probably, but you weould need to prime and sand it to get it smooth if you wanted it to match the body.

2JZ
07-27-2004, 07:24 AM
and clear coat in the end

TCMaster
07-27-2004, 09:10 AM
but getting them painted kinda defeats their purpose, they are there to prevent rocks from chiping your body paint. With painted mudguards, they will be all tore up really fast.

2JZ
07-27-2004, 03:39 PM
he was talking about just the backside of the mudgaurds, not the inside

Redfish
08-03-2004, 07:49 PM
Anyone have pics of this on a silver yet? It looks dead sexy on the BCP.

scion_jC
08-04-2004, 02:05 AM
will drillin the holes in the back interfere with any warrenty ?

HellNBack
08-04-2004, 02:53 AM
meh, I finally got to see a TC with the mudflaps installed today and I am glad I passed on them.

They look out of place and some what cheap on the car. Just doesn't belong.

I went with the clear bra route on my skirts instead of those gaudy flaps.

Stewbie2002
08-04-2004, 04:26 AM
Am I the only one not able to see the pics of the how-to?

I saw the pics of the mudguards after installation at cardomain.com.

Jason, could you please post a side-profile pic of your car with the mudguards installed? Thanks

JasonH
08-04-2004, 04:47 AM
Am I the only one not able to see the pics of the how-to?
As far as I know, yes.

Jason, could you please post a side-profile pic of your car with the mudguards installed? Thanks
Next time I'm taking pics I'll keep it in mind.

ScionTCTrav
08-25-2004, 08:14 AM
Thanks alot man, Those helped out alot!! and I thought the back mudguards was gonna be a _____ cause U had 2 drill the hole..Naw..It was easy!! Check out my webpage for some pics of my car.

www.cardomain.com/id/sciontctrav

MCGeorgeParts.com ROCKS!!

GerryWhite
11-19-2004, 02:48 PM
Will drilling the holes in the back interfere with any warranty ?

FWIW - since the screws that come with them are self-tapping, you don't really have to use a drill to make the holes at all. Just hold the mudguard firmly against the car while putting in the screw.

I've got a silver tC and they look great. Because of the black tires close by, they don't stand out much at all.

This job should take you less than one hour. As was mentioned in the tutorial above, just be sure you have a short screwdriver to work with the screws on the bottom of the skirt areas.

-- Gerry 8)

Streeter
03-31-2005, 04:59 PM
Hm. Interesting. Not an option that I'd considered. They don't look too bad at all! Definitely could use them...

goingcarcrazy
05-14-2005, 09:42 PM
I just got the mudguards on friday, put em on in about 30 minutes including gathering tools, putting em on, and cleaning up the tools. very easy install that looks great when you're done, especially on a dark car (mines indigo ink).

lestatct
05-24-2005, 06:35 PM
:bow: That really boosted my confidence reading your DIY on the mudflaps. It was easy doing the fronts the other day, but I put off the rears until today. Tight squeeze with the big drill, but doable and not scary at all. Went without a hitch in no time. They look great on the Silver Streak Mica car, as I'm sure they will with any of the colors. Thanks again!

tC4ST
05-27-2005, 06:44 PM
Hello Scion Lifers! My first post here! I got my tC two weeks ago and ordered my mudflaps from McGeorgeparts.com.

HUGE thanks to JasonH for the How-To :bow: It took about 30 minutes. I didn't use a drill for the rear ones and the screws did self tap, but boy did my hands get tired from pushing and twisting in! The right front screw on the bottom refused to come out for me. Went to the dealer and they took it out and put the last mudflap on for me! The flaps are almost invisble on FM.

I love this car!! Breaking the engine in gently is a true test of willpower for me!

I've been lurking for about a month b4 getting my car and I want to say THANK YOU to everybody here for all the tips, reviews and opinions :love:

See you on the freeway!

GerryWhite
05-27-2005, 06:58 PM
Hello Scion Lifers! My first post here! I got my tC two weeks ago and ordered my mudflaps from McGeorgeparts.com.

HUGE thanks to JasonH for the How-To :bow: It took about 30 minutes. I didn't use a drill for the rear ones and the screws did self tap, but boy did my hands get tired from pushing and twisting in! The right front screw on the bottom refused to come out for me. Went to the dealer and they took it out and put the last mudflap on for me! The flaps are almost invisble on FM.

I love this car!! Breaking the engine in gently is a true test of willpower for me!

I've been lurking for about a month b4 getting my car and I want to say THANK YOU to everybody here for all the tips, reviews and opinions :love:

See you on the freeway!
You'll love it! Now I wish I was flying out there with my wife and daughter for vacation -- wait, I meant DRIVING out there! Heh-heh...
My silver tC would LOVE the road between Ramona and Julian -- nice and winding fun!!! Of course, driving the mountain roads in Maryland is fun, too.

The_Zeeness
05-30-2005, 04:54 PM
This is probably going to sound silly, but have you noticed any wind resistance or noise resulting from these installation of these bad boys?

JasonH
05-31-2005, 02:47 PM
This is probably going to sound silly, but have you noticed any wind resistance or noise resulting from these installation of these bad boys?
Nope.

cyburke
01-30-2006, 06:31 PM
wanted to send my thanks your way for the detailed install instructions! i did mine this afternoon and it was no sweat at all! was definitely skurred to drill into my car though.. hehe.

:bow:

here are some pics of my install on a silver '06 so peeps can see a lighter colored car w/ the mudguards. i think they look great!

http://www.twoheadsdev.com/cyburke/scion/kif_1686.jpg

http://www.twoheadsdev.com/cyburke/scion/kif_1687.jpg

btw.. keep your drill away from your wheels! my b&d firestorm fell forward onto my left rear wheel and nicked the wheel!!!!!! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarg! lol... totally sucked.

:doh:

lludacrisboy
07-11-2006, 02:30 PM
its much easier to just take your rear wheels off. and drill the holes and plus it will teach you a thing or two for taking them off.

ndnbolla
07-11-2006, 04:52 PM
So these really won't fit well with the full OEM lip kit?

Damn, cuz I can really use them. How well do they work? Do you still fell little tiny bumps when you clean your car on the front of the door or on the underside.

Jiggaman
10-02-2007, 07:16 AM
na..they wont fit with any lip kit...

pierre_tec
10-02-2007, 08:07 PM
they are paintables and wont crack or anything and looks 90% better painted on SW

TeeCizzle
10-02-2007, 08:30 PM
My friend LOVES his mud guards...like Crazy Love...haha

TCyalater
06-26-2009, 01:01 AM
I just got my set in today in the mail and plan on painting them.. I have a question though. Should I sand them before I paint?

they feel like they're made of a rubberized plastic. im afraid if I sand them, that they will bee to rouch and start chipping off or something.. idk.

TCyalater
06-26-2009, 06:26 AM
I just got my set in today in the mail and plan on painting them.. I have a question though. Should I sand them before I paint?

they feel like they're made of a rubberized plastic. im afraid if I sand them, that they will bee to rouch and start chipping off or something.. idk.

bump?!? I'd kinda like this info before I start tomorrow -_-

SeanMG
05-13-2010, 04:16 AM
My car needed these years ago -____-, definitely ordering them now!

jdm_evotc
03-22-2011, 01:24 AM
has anyone been able to do this with a lip kit