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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 10:38 PM
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Default Big brakes... sorta.

I have 17" rims and I want to do something with my braking. I'm supercharged with the 11lb pulley and I definitely need some improved stopping power, but I'm on a budget.


I know of a few kits they make for our cars, like the stoptech kit, and others.. but I was curious how well just upgradiing the rotors and pads would be. I'm not trying to auto-x or anything like that, I just need a little bit of a better grab when I need to slam the brakes.


I looked on ebay and found some rotors, powerslot makes them. They are 12.8 inch rotors and they claim to fit under 17 inch wheels.


Do you guys believe that it would suit my needs better to just upgrade the rotors, pads and lines, and retain the stock calipers?


Or do you believe I should just upgrade the frotn and spend 1600+?



I must remind you, I'm on quite a budget, and I do not plan on HEAVY brake abuse..


What are my options?


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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 10:40 PM
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I bet some more agressive pads and some SS lines would be a good start.
Old Jan 13, 2007 | 10:41 PM
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Oh yeah, better tires will be the biggest improvement for better stopping power.
Old Jan 13, 2007 | 10:56 PM
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^^What he said.

I know pads and lines aren't as "showy" as a BBK, but our tCs have more than enough braking power. The addition of Axxis or Hawk pads will certainly help you.
Old Jan 13, 2007 | 11:01 PM
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Any rotor brands you guys really prefer?

I've looked at powerslot, and a few others. I wanna try to stick with the zinc coating, even though I know noting can really prevent rust entirely.


Also, does anyone know what's the biggest rotor size I can fit under a 17 inch rim. I'm not sure of the offset.
Old Jan 13, 2007 | 11:04 PM
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Read this:
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...=theinstigator
and PM:
The_Instigator

He sells StopTech products and knows his ****.
Old Jan 14, 2007 | 03:12 AM
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you can also ask www.rotorpros.com they do some nice rotors and as said above you should first go with pads, lines and some good tires.
Old Jan 14, 2007 | 05:02 AM
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stoptech makes a wonderful 2 stage braking upgrade kit for the tC.

stage 1 is axxis pads, stainless steel lines, and motul brake fluid.

Stage 2 is a stage 1 plus the addition of new rotors all around.

I'll be getting the stage 2 before june when i go on a trip to a certain curvey road in north carolina
Old Jan 14, 2007 | 05:08 AM
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ive heard the ss brake lines have a tendency to crack and aren't that big of an improvment but, not 100% sure on that.
Old Jan 14, 2007 | 05:11 AM
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no.... it's the stock rubber lines that will eventually dry out and crack.
Old Jan 14, 2007 | 05:15 AM
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ahh
Old Jan 14, 2007 | 08:51 AM
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SS brake lines will improve the pedal feel by reducing expansion in the rubber lines.and may improve initial bite slightly.

They also look the business. :D
Old Jan 14, 2007 | 09:57 AM
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its not the rim you have to worry about fitting a certain size rotor in, but the rotor fitting in the caliper. unless you want to fab new brakets for your calipers to compensate for a larger diameter rotor...
Old Jan 14, 2007 | 10:11 AM
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Default Re: Big brakes... sorta.

Originally Posted by DrummaCF
I looked on ebay and found some rotors, powerslot makes them. They are 12.8 inch rotors and they claim to fit under 17 inch wheels.


Do you guys believe that it would suit my needs better to just upgrade the rotors, pads and lines, and retain the stock calipers?


Introducing the Power Slot Plus Big Brake System. The Power Slot Plus system uses a larger diameter, premium quality Power Slot brake rotor combined with your original factory brake calipers. Our patented caliper relocation brackets space the factory caliper further away from the hub to accommodate our oversized brake rotor. This increases brake torque force without affecting pedal effort or travel. The larger rotor is also a more effective heat sink, absorbing the heat generated under heavy braking. This greatly reduces brake fade and provides consistently shorter stopping distances, especially from higher speeds.

NOTE: All Power Slot Plus brake kits require the use of larger diameter wheels. Check the dimensions of your wheels carefully before purchasing.

KEY FEATURES:
· Premium quality, larger diameter Power Slot rotor
with Vac-U-Slot technology
· Relocates the factory brake caliper for increased
braking effectiveness
· No special brake pad sizes required. Just use an original equipment-
sized high performance pad (sold separately)
· Patented design U.S. Patent # 6,305,509
looks good but wouldnt perform as a true big brake kit only because the stock calipers are retained.

^ as said above, i would change the lines and choosing the right pads first. you said you dont autox, so stick with the stock rotors first. just get it resurfaced when you swap the pads and make sure you bleed all four
Old Jan 14, 2007 | 10:47 PM
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On my last car I upgraded to a BBK when I warped my front rotors. I ended up going with the Wilwood kit with Hawk HPS pads and stainless lines. They worked great, but since they are a race caliper they have no dust shields and began to make a horendous noise. At that point I went back to a factory rotor, stainless lines, Hawk HPS pads and Ate super blue fluid and noticed absolutely no difference in the braking performance. If I was racing I am sure the fade resistance would have been better in the BBK, but for street there is really no point. Also, on a BBK the weight is further from the center and therefore decreases acceleration.
Old Jan 14, 2007 | 10:53 PM
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i say get SS lines, OEM replacement rotors like mine for the looks, paint your calipers, and get some high performance brake pads. Looks cool, slightly better braking than stock, and wont cost you an arm and a leg like a BBK.
Old Jan 15, 2007 | 02:57 AM
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how much is that stoptech kit stage 2???
Old Jan 15, 2007 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by TCgetonmylevel
how much is that stoptech kit stage 2???
Around $550.
Old Jan 17, 2007 | 11:21 PM
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thanks for the help guys! im good on tires and pads...... i think im going to stay with the stock rotors for now and change a lil later down the line for looks.
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