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Old Jan 27, 2007 | 12:17 AM
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Default new front door speakers... couple questions

just got some Dual 6.5" 3-Way speakers for the front doors... alright, so there are gonna be some people who ask "why would you put in THESE speakers???" i know, i know. not exactly components. BUT i did get them for 20 bucks (and they're gonna have blue L.E.D.s on em to match my interior lighting. so its some show and some added sound quality (in other words, save your time and don't bash for not buying a big upgrade). on to my questions:

1. will amping these speakers make a big difference as opposed to running them through my new panasonic head unit? (speakers are rated at 140w max, 50w rms)
2. ill be using 16-guage wiring if i am them (is that okay?)
3. i hear that ill need new baffles... since i'm not good at doing them myself, how are these? http://www.crutchfield.com/S-zkPs4Lr...3200&I=142SAT6 (i assume they'll fit the front door....)

thanks for the help, i'll keep you posted on how things go as i get answers and materials
Old Jan 27, 2007 | 12:23 AM
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Whats the head unit rated at as far as the RMS?
50W RMS sounds about right though. You won't need to run an amp to these speakers. Your head unit will max them out.

16 ga is fine

I'm not sure if you'll need new brackets.
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Whats the head unit rated at as far as the RMS?
50W RMS sounds about right though. You won't need to run an amp to these speakers. Your head unit will max them out..
my head unit is 18w RMS times 4.... the 50w x 4 is peak... so the HU won't max them out... right?
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Originally Posted by TheQuietThings
Whats the head unit rated at as far as the RMS?
50W RMS sounds about right though. You won't need to run an amp to these speakers. Your head unit will max them out..
my head unit is 18w RMS times 4.... the 50w x 4 is peak... so the HU won't max them out... right?
Old Jan 27, 2007 | 12:27 AM
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get these MDF baffels....
http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/pro...products_id=76
Old Jan 27, 2007 | 12:29 AM
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The speakers will be fine, the head unit won't max them out. If you really want to max out the front speakers, you can get a 2-channel amp rated for 50W@4ohms.
Old Jan 27, 2007 | 12:33 AM
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You get what you pay for.... thats all I'm gonna say. I wouldn't even bother installing those, but its your car so whatevs.

If you do install them, get your baffles from here:
http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/pro...products_id=76

^^^ guaranteed fit.
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ahh Yanki beat me too it...
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if they're three ways... does that mean that you get a 6.5" woofer, 4" midbass, and a 1" tweeter?

your going to need to fab up some kick panels if that's the case.
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just use the factory wires
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if they're three ways... does that mean that you get a 6.5" woofer, 4" midbass, and a 1" tweeter?

your going to need to fab up some kick panels if that's the case.
That's a three-way component system. Three-way coaxials are what he's referring to, a woofer, a tweeter and a super-tweeter all on one speaker.
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Originally Posted by Zebman
That's a three-way component system. Three-way coaxials are what he's referring to, a woofer, a tweeter and a super-tweeter all on one speaker.
^ correct. so i've decided to keep the factory speaker wiring (i'm not going for extreme loudness). i'm also going to check my in my friend's garage sometime this weekend to see if he has any 4-channel amps lying around (might get some new rear speakers if i can find them for cheap... stock rears are... well, you know). if he's got a spare amp, i'll just hook it up to the speakers. questions, though.

1. if the amp is rated at 60x4 rms and my speakers are only 50rms each, will that be okay as long as i don't turn the gain too far up (don't want to blow any speakers...).
2. to those of you having amps running speakers and another amp running subs, did you put both amp power cables through the little grommet hole the same way (the power cable going from battery to amp route). I know the space is tight, and another 8-gauge wire seems like a REALLY tight fit.
3. if i get new rear speakers, i'll need baffles for those, too, correct? as for size, are 5.25" good back there or can i fit 6.5" without any modification?

thanks for all the help everyone!
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1. Just keep the gain on the amp around 3/4ths the way, and you should be alright.

2. Drill another hole.

3. Depending on how deep the rear speakers are, you may or may not be able to fit them. You will also have to drill new holes so you can mount a 6.5inch speaker.
Old Jan 28, 2007 | 01:11 AM
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get components
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get components
if he gets components for the rear, he will have to custom mount the tweater as well.
Old Jan 28, 2007 | 05:10 PM
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I wouldn't put Dual speakers in an 81 Chevette... But hey, I understand the desire to use what you got. I wouldn't bother amping those cause you'll just be replacing them in a few months. I'm an MECP certified 12-volt installer, I might know what I'm talking about, but you should really invest in a decent set of components for the front and maybe throw your duals in the rear.
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