So it can't use regular? That would be unfortunate. Quick googling...

Not that you can believe everything you read on the internet but from:

http://forums.autoweek.com/thread.js...rt=30&tstart=0

Honda recommends premium, but my experience is that you generally do not need it.

I own an S2000 with an even more high strung high compression 4 banger and have been using 89 octain middle grade gas. I honestly cannot tell the difference in performance or MPG between 89 and 91. But I only have 9000 miles on it too.

Maybe in cold weather, high mileage, etc. the premium would be necessary.
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In the RSX Type S, they reccommend premium, but you can use regular, albeit with a small drop in performance.
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I use regular gas in my RSX Type S. At most the difference in performance is marginal, and it becomes nonexistent when you're driving conservatively and shifting at 3,500 rpm instead of 8,000

 

I think it looks really nice up front. I don't care for the taillight shape. The hp is nice... I wonder if RSX-S guys will be upset that the hp rating is getting closer to theirs...

Anyhow, I still like the tC more, but I hope you enjoy your new car dude!

 

I'm sure you could theoretically but you'd probably end up making the engine knock and ping to death. Not to mention any damage would probably not be covered under warranty since Honda's documentation will probably say premium fuel is required.

 

sorry was editing my post as you posted this. i seriously doubt honda would let joe stupid put regular in his Si and blow it up.

 

Not blow up, but a high compression motor usually needs high octane fuel to prevent predetonation. Predetonation can cause expensive internal engine damage. Those people running 87 in S2000s and RSX-S's shouldn't have bought the car in the first place if fuel cost was that much of an issue.

 

now now~ lets not all dis the honda cars. They might have been out of style but they do have some nice and fast cars(S2k, NSX,) So let's just make things clear, the only thing that sux now is the Civic and that includes Si and AX to ZX if they do have those models. comprende?

 

surely the knock sensor will save them from themselves. at least they can drive the car in 'limp' mode till things settle.

 

Yeah I'd hope so. But is 20 cents/gal really that much more to pay for the longevity of a motor bought for performance in the first place?

 

i like pie!

 

Wow you are pretty good with numbers.. now how about statistics. yes the tC is a 2.4 liter with 160 hp, and 163 lbs of torque. YES the torque numbers are HIGHER than the HP numbers. NOW lets see. the honda 2.0 l VTEC engine from the RSX-s has 210 hp and something like 140 lbs of torque. iSo statistically speaking. For the engines to be equal the RSX-s would have to have 220 lbs of torque. And if that were the case the RSX would definitly be a monster. Wich is why everyone knows HONDAs are ALL top end. and nothing down low. Unless you drive a motorcycle I saw a 95 civic with very impressive HP numbers. Somewhere around 302 whp.. but only 200lbs of torque. Now while both set of numbers are quite nice. The difference is WAY off. Now if the tC were running the same boost with the same aqua mist injected intercooler the tC would definitly have impressive numbers and that HUGE torque/hp difference would not be there. There would still be a difference, but not like that. Wich is why there is NO replacement for displacement and hondas are lacking low end.

 

You mean one that isn't a generic Japanese automotive design look derived from the Nissan Skyline, Accord and Lexus cross with some Bavarian coupe thingie with interior cues from the SVX? Oops
Enjoy what seems to be a flamebate.

 

good luck with the purchase but I think I'm satisfied with my tc since it doesn't eat premium gas like the SI does.

 

I work at Honda so I think imma throw in my 2 cents. The new civic's are damn ugly and the only thing thats better about them is the interior. The exterior look however, is just horrible. Looks like a prius mated with a saturn.

 

I don't think its the same Civic here, but the Mugen one looks pretty cool. http://www.mugen-power.com/street/civic/

 

Now, I'm not a Honda lover, but this is a common misconception. Yes, torque and hp are related, but do not equate. Have you ever revved your engine to 8000RPM? Probably not. . . because if we could, we would make tremendous hp. . . but we can't. Formula 1 race cars rev well beyond that range. . . and utilize SMALL displacement, high revving motors. Torque, is not what wins Formula 1, Le Mans, etc. . .

However, these high hp, high revving monsters are relatively new, with lighter materials, and contemporary valve train design. Older cars couldn't rev high. . . even 6k would be hard to hit, as the valvetrains would litterally fall apart. Even in modern applications, sometimes it is more practical and more cost effective to build a low revving torque moster. Either way you design an engine, the proper gearing will effective transmit torque to the wheels, either by transmitting it directily (like a 2 speed drag racing tranny) or reduction a la 7 speed racing tranny(HP is converted into torque to the wheels via gearing).

I still would never own a Honda, because I don't like having my emblems and bading stolen. Besides, it almost seems like they made it easy to steal the radio on purpose. . . just pull. It's amazing how much you can steal from a Honda in about 10 seconds. But they really are great cars. . . except for the V6 auto trannies. . . worthless.

 

they get a 5sp transmission. That makes me angry. I want a 5sp. Other than that I am satisfied with my tC. Love my car to death.

 

i thought the civic si was going to be the next best thing on the market when i went to the auto show and saw the concept. now I see the new coupe and i think it's ugly. they should have kept the panorama sunroof and the exhaust coming out the middle of the back. i liked that. maybe the si will be different looking than the coupe now?? i don't know. i love my tc and will not trade if for anything else, well almost...

 

autoweek was sayin that they were suppose to come out with a new crx, but i cant find more info on it.

 

Exactly, aside from the exhaust, sunroof, carbon fiber and yellow tinted fog lamps there is no difference between the concept and the production Civic Si, it still even has fog lamps.

Either your tastes are very difinitive or you are trying really hard to point out what may be ugly about it. Maybe you are trying to say its ugly because you want to prevent yourself from liking it?

 

^ Sounds like some Dr. Phil type stuff right there, lol.