a) Not so pretty (IMO)

b) Chevy has not been able to reach the bar set by import cars for many years, even on their tippy toes.

 

I would buy that chevy! Sweetness

 

my dad has a TDI jetta and he gets 48mpg.

also the Golf weights close to 3300lbs. this car would likely be closer to 2500lbs.

Also the TDI engine in the Golf has a 110hp. VW has a 2.0l 190hp 250lb/ft TDI they put into the Passat and its get +40mpg.

Not to mention the crazy tune-ability of a diesel engine.

 

At first I didn't like the front of the WRX but it has grown on me and I think it looks pretty good.

 

I don't know where you're pulling your specs from but those numbers do NOT exist, in the U.S. atleast. The U.S. Golf puts out 100hp from a 1.9L diesel.

I don't give a rat's behind about european specs since:
a.) I'm not in Europe
b.)Those cars are not available here.

When it's available, then I'll talk.

You're right, I see moded diesel cars left and right. I also heard that Formula One cars will run on diesel next month.

 

The old 1.9l had 90hp. (pre 2004 i think) And the new one that makes 110hp. HP is nothing in these cars as they rev to liek 4500-500orpm. the Torqu number is all that matters.

 

The Jetta and the Beelte are the ONLY new cars VW sell in the U.S. market with the diesel engine.
2006 Jetta 100hp
http://www.vw.com/vwcom/content/obje...etta_specs.pdf
2006 Beetle 100hp
http://www.vw.com/vwcom/content/obje...etle_specs.pdf

Check your facts bud.


Most diesel engines do NOT need to rev beyond 3,000rpm to get torque. Infact, most of them get maximum torque at around 2,500rpm so the answer is "NO".

Wrong again. Formula 1 race cars average about 750 - 800hp and only have around 350 - 450 ft-lbs of torque. Again, diesel engines are for hauling, NOT racing.

 

PWND.

 

ill take one in metallic black please

 

I would have to agree with ehj on this. Formula 1 cars aren't set up for maximum amounts of torque. Why would they do that and give them close to a 15-16000 redline? All the HP that they have is what get's them through the corners b/c those cars are still holding about 6-7000 rpms in them. It's rare, when watching a formula 1 race, that you hearing a quiet point in the race. Those engines are screaming the entire time b/c of the high rpms. Since you utilize HP in high rpms and torque in low rpms...yes, torque is meant for hauling (trucks) and not for racing.

 

tell that to audi...and puegot

 

Also Alpha Romeo if you want to keep going. I lived over there and had the ability to drive multiple diesel powered cars. Yes, some of them ARE fast and could definately beat some gas powered cars, but what is being said is that in the long run, diesel cars were designed for torque in low traction scenarios. Also, they get extremely good mph and that is why most foreign countries, i.e. Italy to name one, have a lot of them. When gas prices are equivalent to 6$ a gallon and your income isn't nearly as high as it should be to be able to afford a full tank all the time, you need something that will burn longer than gas. Hence, diesel cars are very prevalent in countries where gas prices are much higher than others...again, Italy, France, Germany...

 

im talking about the Audi R10 TDi Race car and the new one coming from Poegot. Audi is absoultly killing everyone on the track. Lap times, MPG, top speed, corner exit speed.

 

Most diesel engines do NOT need to rev beyond 3,000rpm to get torque. Infact, most of them get maximum torque at around 2,500rpm so the answer is "NO".

no ____...which is why they only rev to 4500-5000rpm....

Wrong again. Formula 1 race cars average about 750 - 800hp and only have around 350 - 450 ft-lbs of torque. Again, diesel engines are for hauling, NOT racing.[/quote]

i thought we are talking about VW TDi engines not Formula one cars?

 

Eh, I would have thought that diesel engines would strictly stay off the track, but..........whatever manufacturers can think of seems to be done. Hey, if it's a good concept and can actually perform like they say and want it to, then a diesel engine, properlly tuned, I guess could be the next super car and super car killer.

 

its already on the track. and there is rumours of a diesel Audi TT and possibley R8. They alrayd have a monster diesel in the Q7 the Touareg

 

What sucks is that if any of these were to be sold in the U.S., not many people would buy them due to the higher price for diesel these days. Diesel used to be about 10-20 cents cheaper a gallon before the war and Bush administration came into power. After that, diesel seemed to rise and surpass gas prices by that same amount and has stayed there ever since. I would have loved to have a diesel b/c of the prospective longevity of the motor and the fuel consumption, but now with the higher price, it's just not worth it. Not to mention how much worse the exhaust from diesel engines is for humans and the environment.

PLEASE DON'T TURN THIS INTO A POLITICAL DEBATE ANYONE. I'M JUST STATING FACTS.

 

im going to use some really basic numbers here so make the math easy. My dad gets about 48mpg in his TDi Jetta (im just gonna say 50) lets say you get 25 in your tC. If regualr gas is 2.00/gal Diesel needs to be over 4.00/gal before it would be cheaper to fill your car.

 

Yeah, but it's still expensive when you're putting your credit card in the machine to pay for it.

 

i just check up on the current price of gas in my area. Regular is 2.20. Diesel is 2.50.
Ill do some math to figure out the money spent on gas going 12,000miles in a years

Jetta @ 48mpg
12,000ml/48mpg = 250 Gallons
250 Gallons x $2.50 = $625 in Gas Per year

tC @ 27mpg
12,000/27mpg = 444 Gallons
444 Gallons x $2.20 = $977 in gas per year

diesel needs to go alot higher before its not worth it.