Cobalt SS Supercharged
#64
I'd rather get the 06 Cobalt SS 2.4L
170hp NA engine for better gas mileage that runs on regular.
I've read some reviews that state the steering and handling are not good compared to an rsx or mazda3. How does it compare to the tC?
170hp NA engine for better gas mileage that runs on regular.
I've read some reviews that state the steering and handling are not good compared to an rsx or mazda3. How does it compare to the tC?
#65
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Originally Posted by Nebraska_tC
and no offense jethro_b but if you had some real taste you would have bought a tc not an xb
BTW, How can you work 40 hours a week while your still in high school.. and when do you get to enjoy the car between school and work?? I can only imagine what the insurance would be on a Colbalt ss.
#66
Originally Posted by Nebraska_tC
well, my dad bought me the car..
Originally Posted by Nebraska_tC
and no mommy doesnt pay for everything i work 40 hours a week to get what i have thanks for the comments though
#67
ahhhh.....
Toyotas' aren't all that people.....including the not so great tc w/it's not quite a performance engine borrowed from the CAMRY. One only has to go look at the civic ( mainly the SI ) to realize that. Cheaper, better put together, way nicer interior than a tc could ever hope for, and for a little FWD car, the performance aint so bad. But, back on topic, I'd still buy a Cobalt SS over a civic or tc. Come on, the ecotec is one of the best 4 bangers out there as far as performance potential. Totally underated, as most GM engines are. Not to mention a real performance pkg available w/ Recaro seats, limited slip diff, etc.. Unlike Toyota, Honda, and most foreign nameplates, their( GMs' ) horsepower ratings went UP under the new SAE ratings, not DOWN like the better than everything out their imports....you'all catching on to my sarcasm here? After all, isn't a sport compact supposed to be about the SPORT, not the supposedly better interior. And yes, before all you youngins' ( I'm creeping up on 30 y/o) jump on me...I've driven the TC and the Cobalt SS supercharged. No comparison. SS hands down. Ok, I'm tired of typing, but that's just my $0 .02!
Oh, I own 2 Toyotas' by the way for all those who were thinking I was a good 'ol boy.
'04 Matrix XRS (water pump and the A/C compressor clutch just replaced under warranty- I thought Toyotas' were perfect ). And my new toy....an '07 FJ Cruiser -6 speed manual of course.
Cheers!
Oh, I own 2 Toyotas' by the way for all those who were thinking I was a good 'ol boy.
'04 Matrix XRS (water pump and the A/C compressor clutch just replaced under warranty- I thought Toyotas' were perfect ). And my new toy....an '07 FJ Cruiser -6 speed manual of course.
Cheers!
#69
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Originally Posted by SciontCya
What is your purpose here?
Doesn't matter how good the motor is on the SS. It's still a freakin Chevy pile O Poop. Until the American automobile industry can rid themselves of the UAW, the big 3 are headed to bankruptcy. They will never be able to head to head with the Asian brands period.....
#70
Troll.
We know better, and BTW, the tC is not a Sport Coupe. Although it's just dandy for me, I don't think SCION has any pretenses that a stock, non-SC tC is a race car.
Like a Winblows guy in a Mac fourm (no offense to you Win guys) ;)
Scott
We know better, and BTW, the tC is not a Sport Coupe. Although it's just dandy for me, I don't think SCION has any pretenses that a stock, non-SC tC is a race car.
Like a Winblows guy in a Mac fourm (no offense to you Win guys) ;)
Scott
#71
Originally Posted by jethro_b
Originally Posted by SciontCya
What is your purpose here?
Doesn't matter how good the motor is on the SS. It's still a freakin Chevy pile O Poop. Until the American automobile industry can rid themselves of the UAW, the big 3 are headed to bankruptcy. They will never be able to head to head with the Asian brands period.....
The automotive industry records an impressive 12 percent improvement in long-term vehicle quality, according to the J.D. Power and Associates 2005 Vehicle Dependability Study
General Motors models earn eight segment awards and Ford Motor Company models receive five segments awards —a record for both GM and Ford in VDS. Toyota Motor Corporation models receive four awards.
Chevrolet captures the most segment awards, with the Prizm (compact car), Malibu (entry midsize car), S-10 Pickup (midsize pickup) and Silverado HD (heavy-duty full-size pickup) each earning an award in their respective segments. Ford receives three segment awards, for the Thunderbird (entry luxury car), Windstar (midsize van) and E-Series (full-size van).
#72
JD Power and CU (Consumer Reports) are not very reliable as far as their "studies"
I'm not at all shocked that an American company would try to blow some life into the Big Three in the US as they are on the way to a really bad place.
I think they are getting better, but it may be too little too late.
Anyone that says a new GM or Ford will work as well or last as long as a Toyota/Honda is not living in reality.
Scott
I'm not at all shocked that an American company would try to blow some life into the Big Three in the US as they are on the way to a really bad place.
I think they are getting better, but it may be too little too late.
Anyone that says a new GM or Ford will work as well or last as long as a Toyota/Honda is not living in reality.
Scott
#74
Originally Posted by Samurai_Hack
buddy of mine just picked up a supercharged ss... he really can't buy anything else though... he's a GM baby so he gets GMS price... all his cars have been GM.... it's a nice little ride... I get to abuse it this weekend when we go pick up his R6 from his ex's house.... think I'll try an be nice but that little car moves....
#75
Originally Posted by kwicslvr
Originally Posted by jethro_b
Originally Posted by SciontCya
What is your purpose here?
Doesn't matter how good the motor is on the SS. It's still a freakin Chevy pile O Poop. Until the American automobile industry can rid themselves of the UAW, the big 3 are headed to bankruptcy. They will never be able to head to head with the Asian brands period.....
The automotive industry records an impressive 12 percent improvement in long-term vehicle quality, according to the J.D. Power and Associates 2005 Vehicle Dependability Study
General Motors models earn eight segment awards and Ford Motor Company models receive five segments awards —a record for both GM and Ford in VDS. Toyota Motor Corporation models receive four awards.
Chevrolet captures the most segment awards, with the Prizm (compact car), Malibu (entry midsize car), S-10 Pickup (midsize pickup) and Silverado HD (heavy-duty full-size pickup) each earning an award in their respective segments. Ford receives three segment awards, for the Thunderbird (entry luxury car), Windstar (midsize van) and E-Series (full-size van).
Or, you can go buy a Colbalt, then try to trade in 3 years. When what you owe is 6k higher than what the vehicle is worth, offer to throw in some some JD Powers awards.
BTW, the Prizm is a Corolla.
#77
Eh, figured I would post to defend my lil chevy a bit. I'm honestly not here to flame, just gonna list a few things about the balt that hasn't been mentioned.
I absolutely love the TC (my g/f has a RS 2.0 ordered) and might have gone with one over the SS if the TC would have had a little more room to mod and give me track numbers close to what I'm getting with the SS. A few things to note with the Ecotecs used is that the 2.0s in the SS/SC come with forged connecting rods and cranks which gives a lot more leeway as far as mods go. Pistons are not however (grrr) but GM states they will handle up to 300hp before needing swapped with forged ones. (source - http://www.gm.com/company/gmtunersou..._250-600hp.pdf ) The torque curve for the Ecotecs is extremely flat and is much easier than an import to keep pulling on a drag strip rather than trying to fight to keep the motor at its peak torque. Also a 7K redline means one less shift on the strip as well
As for price of the car, its not too hard to get one at invoice ( I paid 19.5K with all options except LSD and Onstar) with a little shopping around. Taking a hit on residual value down the road is personally worth it to me if I can run mid 13s with a few bolt ons and autocross AND beat SRT-4s and WRXs.
Overall I feel both cars are worth every dollar spent on them and would defend either one on any forum. Just would like to see more of these forced induction TCs at tracks so I have a better idea at what they can do.
http://www.gm.com/company/gmtunersou...build_book.htm This is our little gem given to us by GM that a lot of people from cobaltss.net have been following with awesome results.
I absolutely love the TC (my g/f has a RS 2.0 ordered) and might have gone with one over the SS if the TC would have had a little more room to mod and give me track numbers close to what I'm getting with the SS. A few things to note with the Ecotecs used is that the 2.0s in the SS/SC come with forged connecting rods and cranks which gives a lot more leeway as far as mods go. Pistons are not however (grrr) but GM states they will handle up to 300hp before needing swapped with forged ones. (source - http://www.gm.com/company/gmtunersou..._250-600hp.pdf ) The torque curve for the Ecotecs is extremely flat and is much easier than an import to keep pulling on a drag strip rather than trying to fight to keep the motor at its peak torque. Also a 7K redline means one less shift on the strip as well
As for price of the car, its not too hard to get one at invoice ( I paid 19.5K with all options except LSD and Onstar) with a little shopping around. Taking a hit on residual value down the road is personally worth it to me if I can run mid 13s with a few bolt ons and autocross AND beat SRT-4s and WRXs.
Overall I feel both cars are worth every dollar spent on them and would defend either one on any forum. Just would like to see more of these forced induction TCs at tracks so I have a better idea at what they can do.
http://www.gm.com/company/gmtunersou...build_book.htm This is our little gem given to us by GM that a lot of people from cobaltss.net have been following with awesome results.
#78
So, the cobalt ss is gone and now I have a 2003 350z with dc sports headers, injen pop charger, greddy exhaust, tein lowering springs, ss grill, 19x8.5 front and 20x10.5 rear. The car is amazing, I got rid of the ss because everything just seemed like it wasn't the quality I had with the tC nothing was too bad but it never felt like as nice of a car and I thought it was going to. Ill post some pics up
#80
As mentioned earlier in the thread, with $1000 you can get the SS/SC up to 265whp/TQ wich is a lot of power for a car that light. With proper traction that could be high 12's. I like both cars a lot but I like power so I would probably go with the SS/SC due to modability on the performance side. That's just my opinion though.
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