Honda S2000
Originally Posted by KingofScion
Honestly, the s2000 is not a great car, it's a great race car.
Wonderful racer car, but the Z roadster offers the same "raceness", but is an already better car.
The only thing I like about the s2000 mor than the Z is that the s2000 is LIGHTER.
Omer.
Wonderful racer car, but the Z roadster offers the same "raceness", but is an already better car.
The only thing I like about the s2000 mor than the Z is that the s2000 is LIGHTER.
Omer.
Originally Posted by KingofScion
Honestly, the s2000 is not a great car, it's a great race car.
Wonderful racer car, but the Z roadster offers the same "raceness", but is an already better car.
The only thing I like about the s2000 mor than the Z is that the s2000 is LIGHTER.
Omer.
Wonderful racer car, but the Z roadster offers the same "raceness", but is an already better car.
The only thing I like about the s2000 mor than the Z is that the s2000 is LIGHTER.
Omer.
BTW from what I have read, many people claim the Z/G35 aren't that fun to drive.
Originally Posted by corey415
Originally Posted by KingofScion
Honestly, the s2000 is not a great car, it's a great race car.
Wonderful racer car, but the Z roadster offers the same "raceness", but is an already better car.
The only thing I like about the s2000 mor than the Z is that the s2000 is LIGHTER.
Omer.
Wonderful racer car, but the Z roadster offers the same "raceness", but is an already better car.
The only thing I like about the s2000 mor than the Z is that the s2000 is LIGHTER.
Omer.
BTW from what I have read, many people claim the Z/G35 aren't that fun to drive.
Originally Posted by peteyd
Originally Posted by corey415
Originally Posted by KingofScion
Honestly, the s2000 is not a great car, it's a great race car.
Wonderful racer car, but the Z roadster offers the same "raceness", but is an already better car.
The only thing I like about the s2000 mor than the Z is that the s2000 is LIGHTER.
Omer.
Wonderful racer car, but the Z roadster offers the same "raceness", but is an already better car.
The only thing I like about the s2000 mor than the Z is that the s2000 is LIGHTER.
Omer.
BTW from what I have read, many people claim the Z/G35 aren't that fun to drive.
Originally Posted by peteyd
the s2k is really nice although i would avod the first 2 years it came out they had horrible problems with the tranny and suspension had several friends who bought them one of them the suspension just sanped in half honda couldnt figure it out
Originally Posted by bOhEmIo82
Originally Posted by peteyd
the s2k is really nice although i would avod the first 2 years it came out they had horrible problems with the tranny and suspension had several friends who bought them one of them the suspension just sanped in half honda couldnt figure it out
Originally Posted by peteyd
thats not really true since the z came out with the roadster....and honda added the hard top to the s2k...lots of reporters and "car gurus" are putting them in the same class...both offer coupes and roadsters...both are rwd...i believe the Z has more hp (correct me if im wrong) but the s2k has probably the best handling next to an exotic hands down.
One car has a big, torquey 3.5L V6, whereas the other has a high output (for its displacement), high revving 2.2L I4 with an 8000 rpm redline. The lightest 350Z is 400 lbs heavier than the S2000, the heaviest 350Z is 700 lbs heavier. The 350Z can be optioned out to the umpteenth degree, with amenities like navigation and power seats whereas the s2000 is very spartan, and there really arent any options to choose from.
I dont think the average buyer will cross shop between the two cars. Those who dont understand the S2000 wont even test drive it, let alone buy it.
Originally Posted by corey415
Originally Posted by peteyd
thats not really true since the z came out with the roadster....and honda added the hard top to the s2k...lots of reporters and "car gurus" are putting them in the same class...both offer coupes and roadsters...both are rwd...i believe the Z has more hp (correct me if im wrong) but the s2k has probably the best handling next to an exotic hands down.
One car has a big, torquey 3.5L V6, whereas the other has a high output (for its displacement), high revving 2.2L I4 with an 8000 rpm redline. The lightest 350Z is 400 lbs heavier than the S2000, the heaviest 350Z is 700 lbs heavier. The 350Z can be optioned out to the umpteenth degree, with amenities like navigation and power seats whereas the s2000 is very spartan, and there really arent any options to choose from.
I dont think the average buyer will cross shop between the two cars. Those who dont understand the S2000 wont even test drive it, let alone buy it.
A spartan...! I couldn't have said it better myself. Don't get me wrong, I like the 350Z, but the S2K is a real "drivers" car. The 350Z doesn't live up well to it's predecessor, it more of a little playboy's car....
Originally Posted by miamibusta69
350z is faster than the s2k sadly . a hard top beat us about a car length..
Originally Posted by miamibusta69
350z is faster than the s2k sadly . a hard top beat us about a car length..
I was embarrassed when I tried to race an S2K! He smoked me like a cigar!
I test drove an S2000 a couple weeks back. I have to say I was tempted to trade my tC in, but then again a RWD convertible that I barely fit into (6'3") is hardly practical in Colorado with the winter coming up. I'll probably wait until I know I'll be in a nicer climate for an extended period of time, then its either that or an Elise as a second car. The S2000 is faster than the 350Z, btw. Maybe the 300hp variant that came out this year will match it, but the Nissan is an overweight tank in comparison.
From road and track's initial tests of the cars.
S2k- 0-60=5.5, 1/4=14.1
350Z- 0-60=5.6, 1/4=14.3
Maybe the results here aren't characteristic of typical performance since the average S2K driver probably doesn't know how to launch well. I'm not going to doubt the fact they clocked the S2000 at a faster time, as thats what they do for a living.
S2k- 0-60=5.5, 1/4=14.1
350Z- 0-60=5.6, 1/4=14.3
Maybe the results here aren't characteristic of typical performance since the average S2K driver probably doesn't know how to launch well. I'm not going to doubt the fact they clocked the S2000 at a faster time, as thats what they do for a living.
Originally Posted by cmndrjamesbond
From road and track's initial tests of the cars.
S2k- 0-60=5.5, 1/4=14.1
350Z- 0-60=5.6, 1/4=14.3
Maybe the results here aren't characteristic of typical performance since the average S2K driver probably doesn't know how to launch well. I'm not going to doubt the fact they clocked the S2000 at a faster time, as thats what they do for a living.
S2k- 0-60=5.5, 1/4=14.1
350Z- 0-60=5.6, 1/4=14.3
Maybe the results here aren't characteristic of typical performance since the average S2K driver probably doesn't know how to launch well. I'm not going to doubt the fact they clocked the S2000 at a faster time, as thats what they do for a living.
S2K = REAL race car!
350Z = Rich brats car!
Have you guys read the latest Modified? How about a 615WHP 2001 S2000! Here's some specs....
Honda 2.0L F20C Inline-4
Balanced, blueprinted and sleeved
10.1:1 CR JE Forged Pistons - 11,000 RPM Redline!!!
NX 100-shot Direct-port Wet System
Precision SC-61 Turbocharger
All stainless piping and P&P head
615WHP/415lb-ft @ 27PSI!!
(515WHP on 93 octane!)
And that's only a small fraction of what's been done....all by a 19 year-old in Hagerstown, MD!
Honda 2.0L F20C Inline-4
Balanced, blueprinted and sleeved
10.1:1 CR JE Forged Pistons - 11,000 RPM Redline!!!
NX 100-shot Direct-port Wet System
Precision SC-61 Turbocharger
All stainless piping and P&P head
615WHP/415lb-ft @ 27PSI!!
(515WHP on 93 octane!)
And that's only a small fraction of what's been done....all by a 19 year-old in Hagerstown, MD!
Originally Posted by bOhEmIo82
Originally Posted by peteyd
the s2k is really nice although i would avod the first 2 years it came out they had horrible problems with the tranny and suspension had several friends who bought them one of them the suspension just sanped in half honda couldnt figure it out
Honda gave the latter year S2Ks a softer rear suspension and may have beefed up the drivetrain. This helps with the unwanted loose rear end problem.
Originally Posted by uncompiled
The newer models (04+) have larger displacement engines with a little more torque at the cost of having a slightly lower redline.
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/ro...0403scc_s2000/
But the 2.2 may not be all it's cracked up to be (...so I just drove a '02 again to make sure...damn what a cool job!):
http://www.epinions.com/content_191441178244
For 2004 Honda stroked the engine from 2.0 to 2.2 liters. Peak output remains the same as before, 240 horsepower, but this peak now occurs at 7800 rather than 8300 RPM. Many reviewers have emphasized the larger engines stronger midrange, as indicated by nine more foot-pounds of torque at 6500 RPM, 1000 lower than the 2.0's peak. Me, I didn't much notice the stronger midrange--and I drove a 2002 again to be sure.
What I did notice was the narrower power band. As before, the VTEC system's high-lift cam lobes come into play at 6000 RPM, transforming the engine. Yet the redline is 1000 RPM lower, at 8000 RPM, because engines with a longer stroke cannot rev as high--the limit essentially being the distance traveled by the pistons each second (i.e. piston velocity). Result: the VTEC band is now only 2000 RPM rather than 3000. Unless you shift very near the redline the engine falls out of its powerband. That, and a wider power band is simply more fun to play with.
Wonder if a VTEC controller would 'fix' that problem???





