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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 11:43 PM
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I saw a RHD caldina in AZ and it had a sign that it would be sold under the scion badge, this could be the next scion.




They are powered by the 3s-GTE in japan but might be powere by the 2ZZ-fe in the states, they might have a FWD and AWD version.

Pretty cool car/van/thing.
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 11:52 PM
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Here's a cool tuned version from C-one.

Old Oct 29, 2004 | 11:55 PM
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the caldina is really nice that would sell well
Old Oct 30, 2004 | 01:03 AM
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looks nice but it looks expensive too.
Old Oct 30, 2004 | 01:25 AM
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i would buy that! :o
Old Oct 30, 2004 | 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by vividracingcom
I saw a RHD caldina in AZ and it had a sign that it would be sold under the scion badge, this could be the next scion.




They are powered by the 3s-GTE in japan but might be powere by the 2ZZ-fe in the states, they might have a FWD and AWD version.

Pretty cool car/van/thing.
i like it but it resembles too much matrix

i hope that hood scoop is functional.
this is the biggest teass photo i have ever seen and one i would maybe trade the xB for
Old Oct 30, 2004 | 01:36 AM
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Darren can you confirm the last post

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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 01:39 AM
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i'm diggin the tail light a lot very
Old Oct 30, 2004 | 02:27 AM
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i like the above photos but that design does look tooo muck like a matrix, unless its turbo then thats another story.
Old Oct 30, 2004 | 02:51 AM
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If the Caldina is the dL, then let us have the 1AZFSE 2L Diesel-4 engine. BTW, no 2ZZFE for the Calidina. The diesel would be a nice mix of hp, torque, and fuel economy. The tC seems to share the same steering wheel, center console, dash, maybe seat material as the Caldina. Also the tC chassis code is ANT10, Caldina is AZT246 (diesel models only), Avensis is AZT250. A=A engine family. the turbo and Rolla engines have different chassis codes (different engine families).

J-Spec ratings <converted>
non-BEAMS 3SGTE (non-VVT-i; also high insurance cost): 256bHP/238torque

BEAMS 1AZFSE (VVT-i)calculation referring to the 2WD. 4WD is slightly lower: 150bHP/146torque

BEAMS 1ZZFE (VVT-i): 130bHP/125torque

BEAMS=Breakthrough Engine with Advanced Mechanism System
Old Oct 30, 2004 | 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by fr130
If the Caldina is the dL, then let us have the 1AZFSE 2L Diesel-4 engine. BTW, no 2ZZFE for the Calidina. The diesel would be a nice mix of hp, torque, and fuel economy. The tC seems to share the same steering wheel, center console, dash, maybe seat material as the Caldina. Also the tC chassis code is ANT10, Caldina is AZT246 (diesel models only), Avensis is AZT250. A=A engine family. the turbo and Rolla engines have different chassis codes (different engine families).

J-Spec ratings <converted>
non-BEAMS 3SGTE (non-VVT-i; also high insurance cost): 256bHP/238torque

BEAMS 1AZFSE (VVT-i)calculation referring to the 2WD. 4WD is slightly lower: 150bHP/146torque

BEAMS 1ZZFE (VVT-i): 130bHP/125torque

BEAMS=Breakthrough Engine with Advanced Mechanism System
i like that idea but at the current gas prices and where someone lives, if that motor can get near 45MPG then it could be a seller. but when i livved in NY, Diesel prices were about 7-10 cents cheaper than 87 but when i moved down to NC the diesel prices are wicked high. i saw 2.20. 5-6 cents more than 93 (sorry cali we still have 93 and 94)

i would think if that motor was emissions compliant with cali and the rest of the us.

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Scion dL (toyota Caldina) <---------------- Toyota Make this happen
Old Oct 30, 2004 | 07:02 AM
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how much does the caldina cost if you go from yen to the dollar?
Old Oct 30, 2004 | 01:08 PM
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Price Yen to Dollar as of 10/30/04, 8:45ET

3SGTE 4WD (high)= $28,915.49
3SGTE 4WD (Mid)= $26,928.17
3SGTE 4WD (Mlow)= $25,238.95

1AZSFE 4WD (high)=$23,052.90
1AZSFE 4WD (low)=$20,767.48

1AZSFE 2WD (high)= $21,065.56
1AZSFE 2WD (low)= $17,833.32

1ZZFE 2WD(high)= $17,965.36 :o
1ZZFE 2WD(low)= $17,269.80 :D

The 1ZZFE is too slow. The TRD S/C for the 1ZZFE only works for the 2004 Model Rolla's and Matrix's. The 1AZFSE model gets about 35MPG while the 1ZZFE is a bit higher. Give us the D-4 180 Diesel engine (more torque, better gas mileage, less emissions) recently introduced at the Paris Auto Show!

The lower end 1AZFSE would put the bill for Scion since it's still under 20K. More than a tC starting price. Ofcourse the 3SGTE is out of our league. Unless Toyota surveyed a lot of really rich buyers who can afford it as well as the insurance.
Old Oct 30, 2004 | 01:37 PM
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[quote="fr130"]Price Yen to Dollar as of 10/30/04, 8:45ET

3SGTE 4WD (high)= $28,915.49
3SGTE 4WD (Mid)= $26,928.17
3SGTE 4WD (Mlow)= $25,238.95

1AZSFE 4WD (high)=$23,052.90
1AZSFE 4WD (low)=$20,767.48

1AZSFE 2WD (high)= $21,065.56
1AZSFE 2WD (low)= $17,833.32

1ZZFE 2WD(high)= $17,965.36 :o
1ZZFE 2WD(low)= $17,269.80 :D

Wow thats crzy pricing for a possible scion!!
Old Oct 30, 2004 | 02:33 PM
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thats so not going to be a scion to expensive.
Old Oct 30, 2004 | 03:01 PM
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So do you guys really want to know whats next for the SCION Line-up. Because I know what it is and when it is coming out. Just let me know, I will let you know.

David
Old Oct 30, 2004 | 03:07 PM
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sure you do. I posted up an article about Jim Farley I believe saying that the next scion will not be an SUV or truck.
Old Oct 30, 2004 | 03:41 PM
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Oh I do know and it will be out within the next 17 months. :D

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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 05:48 PM
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go ahead and tell us mr.funny man.
Old Oct 30, 2004 | 05:57 PM
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ohh. WITHIN the next 17 months, took a real insider to guess that



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