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10-29-2004, 11:43 PM
#101
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I saw a RHD caldina in AZ and it had a sign that it would be sold under the scion badge, this could be the next scion.
They are powered by the 3s-GTE in japan but might be powere by the 2ZZ-fe in the states, they might have a FWD and AWD version.
Pretty cool car/van/thing.
They are powered by the 3s-GTE in japan but might be powere by the 2ZZ-fe in the states, they might have a FWD and AWD version.
Pretty cool car/van/thing.
10-30-2004, 01:32 AM
#106
Originally Posted by vividracingcom
I saw a RHD caldina in AZ and it had a sign that it would be sold under the scion badge, this could be the next scion.
They are powered by the 3s-GTE in japan but might be powere by the 2ZZ-fe in the states, they might have a FWD and AWD version.
Pretty cool car/van/thing.
They are powered by the 3s-GTE in japan but might be powere by the 2ZZ-fe in the states, they might have a FWD and AWD version.
Pretty cool car/van/thing.
i hope that hood scoop is functional.
this is the biggest teass photo i have ever seen and one i would maybe trade the xB for
10-30-2004, 02:51 AM
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If the Caldina is the dL, then let us have the 1AZFSE 2L Diesel-4 engine. BTW, no 2ZZFE for the Calidina. The diesel would be a nice mix of hp, torque, and fuel economy. The tC seems to share the same steering wheel, center console, dash, maybe seat material as the Caldina. Also the tC chassis code is ANT10, Caldina is AZT246 (diesel models only), Avensis is AZT250. A=A engine family. the turbo and Rolla engines have different chassis codes (different engine families).
J-Spec ratings <converted>
non-BEAMS 3SGTE (non-VVT-i; also high insurance cost): 256bHP/238torque
BEAMS 1AZFSE (VVT-i)calculation referring to the 2WD. 4WD is slightly lower: 150bHP/146torque
BEAMS 1ZZFE (VVT-i): 130bHP/125torque
BEAMS=Breakthrough Engine with Advanced Mechanism System
J-Spec ratings <converted>
non-BEAMS 3SGTE (non-VVT-i; also high insurance cost): 256bHP/238torque
BEAMS 1AZFSE (VVT-i)calculation referring to the 2WD. 4WD is slightly lower: 150bHP/146torque
BEAMS 1ZZFE (VVT-i): 130bHP/125torque
BEAMS=Breakthrough Engine with Advanced Mechanism System
10-30-2004, 03:04 AM
#111
Originally Posted by fr130
If the Caldina is the dL, then let us have the 1AZFSE 2L Diesel-4 engine. BTW, no 2ZZFE for the Calidina. The diesel would be a nice mix of hp, torque, and fuel economy. The tC seems to share the same steering wheel, center console, dash, maybe seat material as the Caldina. Also the tC chassis code is ANT10, Caldina is AZT246 (diesel models only), Avensis is AZT250. A=A engine family. the turbo and Rolla engines have different chassis codes (different engine families).
J-Spec ratings <converted>
non-BEAMS 3SGTE (non-VVT-i; also high insurance cost): 256bHP/238torque
BEAMS 1AZFSE (VVT-i)calculation referring to the 2WD. 4WD is slightly lower: 150bHP/146torque
BEAMS 1ZZFE (VVT-i): 130bHP/125torque
BEAMS=Breakthrough Engine with Advanced Mechanism System
J-Spec ratings <converted>
non-BEAMS 3SGTE (non-VVT-i; also high insurance cost): 256bHP/238torque
BEAMS 1AZFSE (VVT-i)calculation referring to the 2WD. 4WD is slightly lower: 150bHP/146torque
BEAMS 1ZZFE (VVT-i): 130bHP/125torque
BEAMS=Breakthrough Engine with Advanced Mechanism System
i would think if that motor was emissions compliant with cali and the rest of the us.
sign seal deliver
Scion dL (toyota Caldina) <---------------- Toyota Make this happen
10-30-2004, 01:08 PM
#113
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Price Yen to Dollar as of 10/30/04, 8:45ET
3SGTE 4WD (high)= $28,915.49
3SGTE 4WD (Mid)= $26,928.17 
3SGTE 4WD (Mlow)= $25,238.95 
1AZSFE 4WD (high)=$23,052.90
1AZSFE 4WD (low)=$20,767.48
1AZSFE 2WD (high)= $21,065.56
1AZSFE 2WD (low)= $17,833.32
1ZZFE 2WD(high)= $17,965.36 :o
1ZZFE 2WD(low)= $17,269.80 :D
The 1ZZFE is too slow. The TRD S/C for the 1ZZFE only works for the 2004 Model Rolla's and Matrix's. The 1AZFSE model gets about 35MPG while the 1ZZFE is a bit higher. Give us the D-4 180 Diesel engine (more torque, better gas mileage, less emissions) recently introduced at the Paris Auto Show!
The lower end 1AZFSE would put the bill for Scion since it's still under 20K. More than a tC starting price. Ofcourse the 3SGTE is out of our league. Unless Toyota surveyed a lot of really rich buyers who can afford it as well as the insurance.
3SGTE 4WD (high)= $28,915.49
3SGTE 4WD (Mid)= $26,928.17
3SGTE 4WD (Mlow)= $25,238.95
1AZSFE 4WD (high)=$23,052.90
1AZSFE 4WD (low)=$20,767.48
1AZSFE 2WD (high)= $21,065.56
1AZSFE 2WD (low)= $17,833.32
1ZZFE 2WD(high)= $17,965.36 :o
1ZZFE 2WD(low)= $17,269.80 :D
The 1ZZFE is too slow. The TRD S/C for the 1ZZFE only works for the 2004 Model Rolla's and Matrix's. The 1AZFSE model gets about 35MPG while the 1ZZFE is a bit higher. Give us the D-4 180 Diesel engine (more torque, better gas mileage, less emissions) recently introduced at the Paris Auto Show!
The lower end 1AZFSE would put the bill for Scion since it's still under 20K. More than a tC starting price. Ofcourse the 3SGTE is out of our league. Unless Toyota surveyed a lot of really rich buyers who can afford it as well as the insurance.
10-30-2004, 01:37 PM
#114
[quote="fr130"]Price Yen to Dollar as of 10/30/04, 8:45ET
3SGTE 4WD (high)= $28,915.49
3SGTE 4WD (Mid)= $26,928.17
3SGTE 4WD (Mlow)= $25,238.95
1AZSFE 4WD (high)=$23,052.90
1AZSFE 4WD (low)=$20,767.48
1AZSFE 2WD (high)= $21,065.56
1AZSFE 2WD (low)= $17,833.32
1ZZFE 2WD(high)= $17,965.36 :o
1ZZFE 2WD(low)= $17,269.80 :D
Wow thats crzy pricing for a possible scion!!
3SGTE 4WD (high)= $28,915.49
3SGTE 4WD (Mid)= $26,928.17
3SGTE 4WD (Mlow)= $25,238.95
1AZSFE 4WD (high)=$23,052.90
1AZSFE 4WD (low)=$20,767.48
1AZSFE 2WD (high)= $21,065.56
1AZSFE 2WD (low)= $17,833.32
1ZZFE 2WD(high)= $17,965.36 :o
1ZZFE 2WD(low)= $17,269.80 :D
Wow thats crzy pricing for a possible scion!!
