AutoX People - Class Question
07-17-2008, 01:49 AM
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AutoX People - Class Question
I've been scouring the 2008 rules to find out of adding a C Pillar bar would push me out of STS. I can't find any mention of it at all and don't really see anything that would say it's not allowed.
I'm looking to get some other opinions before I pull the trigger. The way I'm reading it, I'd be fine.
And yes, I'm well aware that the megan bar would make little to no effect. But every little bit will help. No matter how little.
I'm looking to get some other opinions before I pull the trigger. The way I'm reading it, I'd be fine.
And yes, I'm well aware that the megan bar would make little to no effect. But every little bit will help. No matter how little.
07-17-2008, 02:13 AM
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to really get pushed out of STS, you would have to do something like LSD, flywheel, supercharger or turbo, bigger engine. or replace a large body panel with a light weight piece. like a cf hood or hatch or roof. to put it one way, does adding a full roll cage change what class your in? if not, why would a c-pillar brace?
07-17-2008, 02:17 AM
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Actually I don't know about the roll cage thing, never looked into it. 
The main reason I'm curious is b/c there are restrictions on even the strut braces. You can only have two mounting points so the Ingalls 4-point rear strut brace is not allowed. So I wanted to be sure there wasn't any strange rules I'm not reading on other braces.
The main reason I'm curious is b/c there are restrictions on even the strut braces. You can only have two mounting points so the Ingalls 4-point rear strut brace is not allowed. So I wanted to be sure there wasn't any strange rules I'm not reading on other braces.
07-17-2008, 04:32 AM
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Re: AutoX People - Class Question
It's a rather old thread, but I don't think the rules for ST have changed much since then.
http://sccaforums.com/forums/thread/82188.aspx
http://sccaforums.com/forums/thread/82188.aspx
07-17-2008, 11:16 AM
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While that doesn't really give me a straight answer (I'm not sure anyone has one), it's a bit more input. 
I just don't see anything that says it's not allowed, so I'll probably go for it. We have a small region anyway and I can't ever see anyone protesting or anything like that even if they did care.
I just don't see anything that says it's not allowed, so I'll probably go for it. We have a small region anyway and I can't ever see anyone protesting or anything like that even if they did care.
07-17-2008, 03:09 PM
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I THINK it's not allowed.
A roll cage definitely would knock you into a different class.
to be sure, visit the scca website & look in the pdf rulebook. At one of the club autocrosses I do, I see lots of guys who decked out their cars & THEN went to autocross. They got booted into a serious class & got spanked.
you can also ask on sccaforums.com
the absolute biggest thing you can do is practice. being a better driver will make you faster than a strut bar will.
example: my autocross intructor WON my class in my XA. All it had were Hankooks, a rear antisway, an intake & exhaust. When I started, I finished dead last. Now, I'm middle of the pack & moving up.
have faith in yourself!
A roll cage definitely would knock you into a different class.
to be sure, visit the scca website & look in the pdf rulebook. At one of the club autocrosses I do, I see lots of guys who decked out their cars & THEN went to autocross. They got booted into a serious class & got spanked.
you can also ask on sccaforums.com
the absolute biggest thing you can do is practice. being a better driver will make you faster than a strut bar will.
example: my autocross intructor WON my class in my XA. All it had were Hankooks, a rear antisway, an intake & exhaust. When I started, I finished dead last. Now, I'm middle of the pack & moving up.
have faith in yourself!
07-17-2008, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ack154
I just don't see anything that says it's not allowed, so I'll probably go for it.
07-17-2008, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mrexotica
I THINK it's not allowed.
A roll cage definitely would knock you into a different class.
to be sure, visit the scca website & look in the pdf rulebook. At one of the club autocrosses I do, I see lots of guys who decked out their cars & THEN went to autocross. They got booted into a serious class & got spanked.
you can also ask on sccaforums.com
the absolute biggest thing you can do is practice. being a better driver will make you faster than a strut bar will.
example: my autocross intructor WON my class in my XA. All it had were Hankooks, a rear antisway, an intake & exhaust. When I started, I finished dead last. Now, I'm middle of the pack & moving up.
have faith in yourself!
A roll cage definitely would knock you into a different class.
to be sure, visit the scca website & look in the pdf rulebook. At one of the club autocrosses I do, I see lots of guys who decked out their cars & THEN went to autocross. They got booted into a serious class & got spanked.
you can also ask on sccaforums.com
the absolute biggest thing you can do is practice. being a better driver will make you faster than a strut bar will.
example: my autocross intructor WON my class in my XA. All it had were Hankooks, a rear antisway, an intake & exhaust. When I started, I finished dead last. Now, I'm middle of the pack & moving up.
have faith in yourself!
07-17-2008, 08:26 PM
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G. Strut bars are permitted with all types of suspension. Strut bars
may be mounted only transversely across the car from upper
right to upper left suspension mounting point and from lower
right to lower left suspension mounting point. No other configuration
is permitted. Additional holes may be drilled for mounting
bolts. Only bolt-on attachment is permitted. Interior trim panels
may be modified to allow installation of strut bars. Holes or
slots may be no larger than necessary and may serve no other
purpose. This does not permit any modifications to the frame or
73
unibody beyond the allowed mounting holes.
looks like you're safe...
however, I suggest visiting sccaforums.com for your tech questions -those guys recite the rulebook in their sleep& good luck!
#1 thing to tune up - the nut behind the wheel!
may be mounted only transversely across the car from upper
right to upper left suspension mounting point and from lower
right to lower left suspension mounting point. No other configuration
is permitted. Additional holes may be drilled for mounting
bolts. Only bolt-on attachment is permitted. Interior trim panels
may be modified to allow installation of strut bars. Holes or
slots may be no larger than necessary and may serve no other
purpose. This does not permit any modifications to the frame or
73
unibody beyond the allowed mounting holes.
looks like you're safe...
however, I suggest visiting sccaforums.com for your tech questions -those guys recite the rulebook in their sleep& good luck!
#1 thing to tune up - the nut behind the wheel!
07-18-2008, 07:17 PM
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No doubt. I have a list of stuff I have to get done at the moment anyway. Not to mention have to pick up the other two of NST's pulleys. So I have all new rotors, pads, ss lines, trans flush, pulleys, getting valve cover powder coated, scangauge ii ordered, and I'd like to be getting rear strut bar and if I can get by with it, perhaps the c pillar bar.
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