how? stock torque converter wont let us powerbrake past 2200-2500 RPMs

 

^u beat me to it. yea, i call bs on ur 3500rpm power brake. prove me wrong with a good video or sumthin. i haven't been able to power brake past 2500 rpms.

 

Im not trying to BS or anything... I could have swore that it was 3500 RPMs. I might be wrong...Everything goes so quick when ur at the starting line. Im going to go try it tonight...

 

i have the HKS Axle back with the injen Intake and a 5spd.. and i ran a 15.7 at the track here in orlando

 

Yea I'm pretty sure I can't power Brake past 2200-2500.

 

I am sorry but this is one of the dumbest threads out. You don't compare a boosted car against a non boosted.

 

why not? You mean comparing a viper VS a ferarri f40 is pointless?
A skyline VS a vett?
A mustang VS a mazda speed 6

The list goes on and on. The way it gets there isnt imprtant, its how they perform. So to say an auto F/I tC VS a n/a tC is the only way to compare.

 

let me make my point clear you don't compare two of the same kind of cars against each other if one is boosted and one isn't . If you are comparing one tc against another and one has boost then the other should.

 

why?

One is auto, one os manual. The manual has the advantage. So the auto is boosted to make up for it.

 

if you really want to compare a boosted auto tc against a n/a 5 speed tc then at least compare it to a n/a tc that has at least has I/H/E,P&P, and maybe even pistons.

 

No not really^^^An auto tc is almost a whole second slower than a 5spd, stock for stock. I believe its pretty fair.

 

umm there hav been dynos from i/h/e 5spd tc's that put out around 160whp( and i kno u cant compare dyno's of different cars but im jus using this as an example)..i dyno'd 170whp on stock boost when my header was on. it's currently not on the car right now. so how come its stupid to compare an n/a 5spd vs. an auto s/c if the numbers are pretty close..

 

OK... i tried again tonight...it power braked at 2700 RPMS no bullshxt...more than 2200-2500 rpms but not 3500.

 

If they are the same kind of cars a boosted car will always win and its not my fault you bought an auto.

 

A boosted car will always win on the same type of car? WHAT? Totally not true.

A scion tC Manual with a supercharger is not out of reach of a fully built n/a scion tC. Put full i/h/e/p pnp head, engine management, a set of custom cams and I imagine they would be pretty close. A stock supercharged tC is running 14.9-15.1.
People are running 15.2 with na tCs. And that is without the headwork, and management.

 

1st off why would anyone want a supercharger the trd supercharger dyno's 35-40hp less than a stage one turbo kit and the turbo kit is running 5psi where the trd supercharger is running 6psi. Any when you say they dyno close, they might dyno close when you are talking about peak gain but look at the entire power band and I bet you will see a huge difference.

 

i still prefer the way SC's make power compared to how TC's make power. But that is all personal preference.

and now why are we comparing SC's to TC's? Please keep this thread on topic.

 

I am not talking about power or what is better.

I am talking about quarter mile times. Where did I ever say anything about their dyno numbers?

You said a boosted car will always beat a non boosted car on the same style cars. It is totally false. To say most, yes that is possible. But if someone has the money and knowledge your not even close to being right.

Oh and so you know a bit about how the supercharger works, the power range of a NA tC with 195whp compared to a supercharged tC with 195 whp, the NA one will win in a race. The power range is much better on the NA tC than the supercharged one.

 

How many people have 195 n/a whp tc's that you know of? The parts that are required to get that kind of power levels are just now coming out. I don't know of any 195 n/a whp tc's

 

He's just saying for example.