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Giupo 01-25-2010 01:45 PM

cburglb34 - reimbursment received
 
"I have bought and paid a set of TRD 410cc Injectors last 6th December 2009 and I don't have received the injector or the paypal reimbursement."

The injectors kit does not arrived but yesterday paypal have reimbursed the money :D
this is good news.

cburglb34 sorry for the all the bad things that I said about you but I have received the money back after 3 months for the paypal error.


ecko04 01-25-2010 04:25 PM

He's on here all the time, have you gotten a tracking number or any type of shipping confirmation?

FlintMica2005 01-25-2010 04:53 PM

there's another thread that was made about him too

nothing was ever done apparently

ecko04 01-25-2010 05:18 PM

Wow....I will try not to pass judgment until I know all the facts or at least enough to say he's a scam artist/crook but this isn't looking too good.

cburglb34 01-25-2010 05:20 PM

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guipo i am fed up with you and your scams!!!!!! everyone here is proff that i have both shipped the item and gave him a refund
Attachment 98579 this is an old snap shot

DONT DEAL WITH GUIPO HE IS THE SCAMMER HE HAS TAKEN MY MONEY AND INJECTORS!!

ecko04 01-25-2010 05:25 PM

Well tracking number shows no tracking information available, so that fault goes to the seller.

The buyer closed the case meaning that either he received the item or trusted the seller enough to cancel the case to release the funds back to the seller, however, when using PayPal a complaint can only be opened once so if the item was not received PayPal advises the buyer to wait until the item is received before closing the complaint, fault buyer.

Call it a wash on both parties at this point.

cburglb34 01-25-2010 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ecko04 (Post 3443843)
Well tracking number shows no tracking information available, so that fault goes to the seller.

The buyer closed the case meaning that either he received the item or trusted the seller enough to cancel the case to release the funds back to the seller, however, when using PayPal a complaint can only be opened once so if the item was not received PayPal advises the buyer to wait until the item is received before closing the complaint, fault buyer.

Call it a wash on both parties at this point.


yes the postal service gave me the wrong customs number and paypal was a glitch saying he closed the case heres proff he got his money back

Attachment 98578

this guy got this transaction refunded and his other transaction i made sure of it by calling paypal myself

cburglb34 01-25-2010 05:32 PM

who ever is a mod please lock this up as soon as possible as this guy just made a quick buck and got new injectors

cessblood 01-25-2010 05:34 PM

WOW

cburglb34 01-25-2010 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by cessblood (Post 3443861)
WOW


dunno what the wow is to is it because another post about me or because he scammed me

johnhawkins 01-25-2010 05:39 PM

Thats why I ALWAYS go thru eBAy!

XIEmperorIX 01-25-2010 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by johnhawkins (Post 3443867)
Thats why I ALWAYS go thru eBAy!


yeah because it's impossible to get scammed on ebay....:icon_tired:

johnhawkins 01-25-2010 08:03 PM

Obv you can get ripped off on eBay - Only if your an idiot and buy from a seller that has negative feedback or low feedback rating....On eBay there is at least a repercaution - You can leave negative feedback

XIEmperorIX 01-25-2010 08:16 PM

I've seen and heard of scams from power sellers and non power sellers alike.

My statement still stands.

Giupo 01-28-2010 09:24 AM

cburglb34 bad seller!!!
 
Sorry If I have open a new thread equal to each other but I would like to respond publicly to the offenses.

I don't have received anything else I wouldn't have written those things on the forum!!! I waited nearly 2 months.
How long should I wait???!!!
I'm not a crook, I have a ebay account with 300 positive feedback.
cburglb34 is a crook!!!!!

I have paid the injectors 6th December 2009 and I have asked cburglb34 if he could shipped a next day and he said yes, the next day morning I contacted and asked if he had sent and he said yes and told me I would give the trackin the evening. here he is gone... I sent him 50 PM message but he didn't respond after 5 days I have contacted paypal and I started the practice but he had 45 days to act differently.
eventually I lost my money and I have not received anything.

cburglb34 DELETE MY PERSONAL DATA ON THE FORUM

GammaTNT 01-28-2010 12:14 PM

i don't think cburglb34 could delete your personal data.It must have a mod.

FlintMica2005 01-28-2010 12:47 PM

no I think cburg posted a screen shot of his paypal and address. idk it seems so fishy that this guy seems like a stand up guy and hasn't received anything.

draxcaliber 01-28-2010 01:30 PM

yeah, cburg posted screen pictures of the shipping and the paypal reimbursement. and infact, you actually ripped him off because you got his injectors, and your money back, which means you are infact the scammer. i'll let him know about this thread, and i'm sure he'll have no problem posting them again.

cburglb34 01-28-2010 01:41 PM

guipo u can delete your personal data on your own all you have to do is delete you thread....which shouldnt be there in the first place because u scammed me

i provided proof that u got your money back and that i shipped it, yes italy's postal service sucks but u cant blame me for it...\


everyone google research about italy's postal service itll show that they infact are horrible...

none the less i gave you a refund being the better man even tho you closed the paypal case i sent arefund and provided the proof,


like i said all you have to do to delete your address from the public is to delte your thread and itll delete the whole thing...or if u arent smart enough to do it then ask a moderator to but im not deleting it as its my proof of u scamming me


another thing is that your address isnt a private thing its open to the public so i fart all over your statement

cburglb34 01-28-2010 01:45 PM

your threads are pointless and thats why they locked them

mospeedtc 01-28-2010 01:56 PM

GUIPO= crybaby scammer!!!!!! /thread

beandip007 01-28-2010 02:02 PM

ibftmfl! again.

draxcaliber 01-28-2010 02:02 PM

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=179897

ack154 01-28-2010 02:10 PM

If you have problems - at least just keep them to one thread.

cburglb34 01-28-2010 02:17 PM

thanks mo and christian... its all good because i talked to paypal on the phone and they said they will contact me later today about this more i detail and ill prob end up getting my money back or atleast 97 dollars of it so in the end guipo things come back to haunt yyou....i didnt even ask paypal for money back i just told them ur claiming u didnt get it and they said well we might be able to give you your money back =P

ecko04 01-28-2010 02:18 PM

There is no proof the OP scammed anyone.

The tracking number is invalid and shows no proof of delivery.

What has been determined is that a refund was given. So while the OP may not have received his item he did receive a refund.

With that being said I move to /thread

cburglb34 01-28-2010 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ecko04 (Post 3448282)
There is no proof the OP scammed anyone.

The tracking number is invalid and shows no proof of delivery.

What has been determined is that a refund was given. So while the OP may not have received his item he did receive a refund.

With that being said I move to /thread

oh you want proof of shipping okay no problem...

Attachment 98268

cburglb34 01-28-2010 02:25 PM

thank you now please carry on im tired of people siding with this clown...he got both money and product sent to him now what he did with it is up to him

jonathan110987 01-28-2010 02:37 PM

wow again another post... sry cburglb

cburglb34 01-28-2010 03:13 PM

its all good money comes n goes... yes right now im hurting for money and he aint helping but its fine, ill be off in afghanistan soon so thatll give me some nice money

ecko04 01-28-2010 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by cburglb34 (Post 3448288)
oh you want proof of shipping okay no problem...

I can tell you don't ship often. What you're not understanding is proof of shipment and proof of delivery are TOTALLY different. You shipped internationally, there is an emphasis on proof of delivery. Whether that method be delivery confirmation, etc. What you posted was a receipt that shows you purchased no type of delivery confirmation and no type of insurance. Which means that IF the OP did not receive the item you can't even file an insurance claim so that both parties are compensated for a postal mishap.

I can see why PayPal refunded the buyer, even if he scammed you and he did receive it, the fault is still yours for not purchasing some form of delivery confirmation to, 1st - assure your buyer the item has been shipped and can track it to their destination and 2nd - prevent unnecessary charge-backs.

What you must understand, when selling anything, owning a store, etc. The credit processing company is always going to side with the purchaser in cases where items were not received because it is your job as a seller to provide confirmation or tracking info as well as insure the item.

While you guys are passing the blame around it could just be the postal service that lost the package. Unfortunately since did not purchase any type of delivery confirmation and insurance, you are at a loss to come up with proof so the fault lies with you.

Fault Diagram:

Buyer Buys Item: (Item was paid for, buyer cannot be at fault)
Seller Ships Item & Item is lost: (Item was shipped and purchased delivery confirmation but since the buyer did not purchase insurance, seller is at fault)
Seller Ships Item & Item is lost: (Item was shipped, purchased deliery confirmation and insurance, postal service is now at fault and must pony up the insurance amount when the seller provides an invoice for the contents of the package)

There are more cases but those are the most basic ones.

But what do I know, i've only been selling items on eBay, *cough* Platinum PowerSeller, since 2000, you live and learn, and i'e dealt with every type of scammer to date.

Also, since you sold an item outside of eBay you aren't even liable for items not being as described, all you needed was proof of delivery and the problem would be solved.

The importance of delivery confirmation

Giupo 01-28-2010 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by mospeedtc (Post 3448254)
GUIPO= crybaby scammer!!!!!! /thread

this is false!!!
I'm a serious person
who has been cheated!!!
I haven't received the paypal reimbursment
&
I haven't received the injectors!

I'm a italian boy and you have clans with your American friend. This is unfair
.

however this is my last message because it is considered not to feel bad.

Good luck for your nexts purchasing from cburglb34.

ecko04 01-28-2010 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by Giupo (Post 3448468)
this is false!!!
I'm a serious person
who has been cheated!!!
I haven't received the paypal reimbursment
&
I haven't received the injectors!

I'm a italian boy and you have clans with your American friend. This is unfair
.

however this is my last message because it is considered not to feel bad.

Good luck for your nexts purchasing from cburglb34.

It shows you received reimbursement, if you haven't, you need to contact PayPal because the case was decided in your favor.

Giupo 01-28-2010 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by ecko04 (Post 3448557)
It shows you received reimbursement, if you haven't, you need to contact PayPal because the case was decided in your favor.

I have contacted paypal but although the case was decided in my favor I can't get my money because the seller don't have a money in your account.

with this tread I just wanted to warn people who want to buy from this seller.

ecko04 01-28-2010 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by Giupo (Post 3448714)
I have contacted paypal but although the case was decided in my favor I can't get my money because the seller don't have a money in your account.

with this tread I just wanted to warn people who want to buy from this seller.

You're exactly right, funds can only be deducted from the PayPal balance.

FlintMica2005 01-28-2010 07:56 PM

^ that is true, just because paypal sided with giupo doesn't necessarily mean he was returned the money. has happened to me many times before, paypal sides with me and the people don't have the funds in paypal to pay back

Giupo 01-28-2010 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by FlintMica2005 (Post 3448730)
^ that is true, just because paypal sided with giupo doesn't necessarily mean he was returned the money. has happened to me many times before, paypal sides with me and the people don't have the funds in paypal to pay back


Yes, this is my case.

ecko04 01-28-2010 08:51 PM

However, if he ever sells anything else those funds will go to you 1st, assuming he doesn't owe anyone else. If his account is negative for too long it will be closed and it will go to collections.

Giupo 01-28-2010 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by ecko04 (Post 3448828)
However, if he ever sells anything else those funds will go to you 1st, assuming he doesn't owe anyone else. If his account is negative for too long it will be closed and it will go to collections.


I do not know what to say .. thanks for the solidarity

cburglb34 01-31-2010 02:20 AM


Originally Posted by Giupo (Post 3448714)
I have contacted paypal but although the case was decided in my favor I can't get my money because the seller don't have a money in your account.

with this tread I just wanted to warn people who want to buy from this seller.

guipo you need to call them back and fuss at them because the money was deducted from my account thats why im ____ed, and the screen shot i posted shows money came form my account, it put my account in the negatives and then i paid it back so u shoulda gotten the money


Originally Posted by FlintMica2005 (Post 3448730)
^ that is true, just because paypal sided with giupo doesn't necessarily mean he was returned the money. has happened to me many times before, paypal sides with me and the people don't have the funds in paypal to pay back

money was taken from the account pal..


Originally Posted by ecko04 (Post 3448828)
However, if he ever sells anything else those funds will go to you 1st, assuming he doesn't owe anyone else. If his account is negative for too long it will be closed and it will go to collections.


yea but too bad they already took the money from my account around dec 17 and that my account isnt in negatives hence why i can buy and sekll the like i have been doing

OP just needs to keep hassling paypal cuz paypal sure came after me for the money already n they got it


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