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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 06:47 AM
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Please don't turn this into another ZPI bashing thread. Sure they have terrible customer service but they have also contributed more to the Scion community than any other company out there.
This statement is really un-fair to companies like Dezod who have put just as much time, effort, and money into providing excellent parts and customer service to all of the scion community.
Umm I disagree. But that is my opinion. I think a lot of things that have been said about ZPI are unfair but thats my opinion too. I also think most of it is form competitors who have alot to gain from ZPI failing and nothing to gain from them succeeding. But again that is all my opinion.

If someone needs ZPI to do something for them that they paid for and ZPI hasen't done please send me a PM ASAP. I believe that the Tiens and Hid's should go out by Friday of this week. Turbos some time the week after HOWEVER we are not commiting to anything more than August 1st. I expected a bunch of PM's and have only recieved one reply to the one I sent JohnnyBlazed after reading about a hundred posts. Please if ZPI owes you let me know about it and I will get it fixed. I saw link after link that was quoted all over this site. I expect all of the originators to send a PM. I mean if Kenny stole something from you what do you have to lose?
Your opinions are biased and are not welcomed. Get these orders straightened out before August 1st or you will have some ____ed off scion owners
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Hillbilly
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Originally Posted by Fish
Please don't turn this into another ZPI bashing thread. Sure they have terrible customer service but they have also contributed more to the Scion community than any other company out there.
This statement is really un-fair to companies like Dezod who have put just as much time, effort, and money into providing excellent parts and customer service to all of the scion community.
Umm I disagree. But that is my opinion. I think a lot of things that have been said about ZPI are unfair but thats my opinion too. I also think most of it is form competitors who have alot to gain from ZPI failing and nothing to gain from them succeeding. But again that is all my opinion.

If someone needs ZPI to do something for them that they paid for and ZPI hasen't done please send me a PM ASAP. I believe that the Tiens and Hid's should go out by Friday of this week. Turbos some time the week after HOWEVER we are not commiting to anything more than August 1st. I expected a bunch of PM's and have only recieved one reply to the one I sent JohnnyBlazed after reading about a hundred posts. Please if ZPI owes you let me know about it and I will get it fixed. I saw link after link that was quoted all over this site. I expect all of the originators to send a PM. I mean if Kenny stole something from you what do you have to lose?
You know what they say about opinions.

I agree some things that have been said about ZPI were un-fair. A lot of things said about them were completely fair. If you check around on here at the people that are talking the hard core crap, you will notice they aren't competitors at all. They are either current customers, ex-customers, or lost potential customers. I have yet to see the Dezod boys, the turbonetics guys, the greddy guys, the world racing decent guys, or anyone else come on here just to trash talk them or say anything out of line. I personally make comments here and there but I find them to be honest reflections of how I feel out of legitament personal experiences. If ZPI goes under tomorrow, or stays open for 100 years its not going to effect me or the business that I do one bit.

I would also like to say that I saw great potential in ZPI when they first started up. I saw that potential grow after 6 months. I saw it start to decline after that and it was without a doubt because of bad managment and in-experienced financial dealings. I wish the best to everyone at ZPI because I know deep down none of them are truely bad people. I know them all personally and know they all have the greatest of intentions. Intentions, however, dont fill orders or pay refunds after months and months of wait-time though and thats the problem that I think everyone involved mutually faces here. If your business experience and money can help pull ZPI from the near bankruptcy that that are facing and put them back into a positive light in the aftermarket scene, then great. The times for big promises and great intentions are over. Its put up or shut up time, honestly.

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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboCustomz
You know what they say about opinions.
Yes I do and that was my point about these posts.


Originally Posted by TurboCustomz
you will notice they aren't competitors at all. They are either current customers, ex-customers, or lost potential customers. I have yet to see the Dezod boys, the turbonetics guys, the greddy guys, the world racing decent guys, or anyone else come on here just to trash talk them or say anything out of line.
But would their customers come on here and bash the ZPI crew just to make them feel better about there car and parts? I have been around autos enough to know that whatever is on my car is the best and anything else is crap. I also know that forums can become a feeding frenzy like carp in a fish pond.

I also believe the competitors you have listed are following Kenny from a performance standpoint. Kenny is the one who has blazed the trail for the Scion platform not those companies. If only Kenny had a million dollars when he started to make turbo kits none of this would have happened, he didn't and here I am.

But if he is so bad and done so many wrong things were are the PM's and emails to me?


Originally Posted by TurboCustomz
I would also like to say that I saw great potential in ZPI when they first started up. I saw that potential grow after 6 months. I saw it start to decline after that and it was without a doubt because of bad managment and in-experienced financial dealings. I wish the best to everyone at ZPI because I know deep down none of them are truely bad people. I know them all personally and know they all have the greatest of intentions. Intentions, however, dont fill orders or pay refunds after months and months of wait-time though and thats the problem that I think everyone involved mutually faces here. If your business experience and money can help pull ZPI from the near bankruptcy that that are facing and put them back into a positive light in the aftermarket scene, then great. The times for big promises and great intentions are over. Its put up or shut up time, honestly.

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Well said Charles. I agree about 110%. I agree so much I am willing to give away turbos and free parts if we don't put up. I am not trying to talk smack or be a jerk I am trying to fix a business problem.

I am asking for customers who have problems right now to let me know what they are so that I may address them individually. To others who just don't know whats going on and are worried now because of these posts just be patient and watch what we do over the next few months. While things won't be perfect by August 1st they will be smooth once September rolls around.
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 1widetc
LOL I love how you come on here acting all netrual but your really working for them...

No one knows who you are why would they send you info about there zpi order...

As for people complaining... I think the 5 people that were complaining the most have all had previous experience with zpi... and so far one of them has got banned for standing up for what he believes in.
I am NOT Neutral. I am trying to resolve these issues as the VP of Business Affairs. Bottom line is I am Kenny's new partner. If you know these people please have them PM me or PM me for them with some contact info and I will get in touch with them.
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BlkSandPrlTurbotC
Your opinions are biased and are not welcomed. Get these orders straightened out before August 1st or you will have some ____ed off scion owners
I bet the SL members who have Turbos and parts on order from ZPI think my opinions are welcome. Even if they are biased.

Don't you think there will be some ____ed off owners if we don't get these orders straightened out before August 1st?
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboCustomz
you will notice they aren't competitors at all. They are either current customers, ex-customers, or lost potential customers. I have yet to see the Dezod boys, the turbonetics guys, the greddy guys, the world racing decent guys, or anyone else come on here just to trash talk them or say anything out of line.
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Originally Posted by HillBilly
I also believe the competitors you have listed are following Kenny from a performance standpoint. Kenny is the one who has blazed the trail for the Scion platform not those companies. If only Kenny had a million dollars when he started to make turbo kits none of this would have happened, he didn't and here I am.

But if he is so bad and done so many wrong things were are the PM's and emails to me?


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No one is following Kenny. Everyone is doing the same thing to help push the scions into the forefront of the import tuner market. I know you haven't been around that long so maybe I should point out that Kenny was NOT the first person to build a turbo kit for a tC. In fact, Kenny's hands didnt touch the first ZPI turbo kit for the tC while it was being built. Scion Speed, who was the first company to build a turbo kit, produce numbers with a turbo kit, and market a turbo kit, ended up going out of business and a lot of people lost money in some form or fashion. I believe this to be a EXCELLENT reason for EVERYONE in this market to be sceptacle when they start seeing evidence that history is repeating itself with another company. Everyone on here has seen it happen before and I personally dont think people should be nieve when it comes to buying parts from anyone.

No one person can take credit for "blazing the trail" on performance for the scion's. I am really angered by the fact that you keep saying "Kenny" did this and "Kenny" did that. One would wonder why its not "ZPI" did this or "ZPI" did that? The basic design of the kit that "ZPI" is selling to date is a culmination of insight from Brad, Ross, Alex , Nathan, Jay, and myself. None of it was even built or assembled in ZPI facilities. To say that "Kenny" has paved the way is stealing credit from a lot of other people around the country that have done just as much and most likely invested a lot more PERSONAL time and effort.
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 02:48 PM
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I feel that we have thrown down the gauntlet. We're re-organizing, not just in money and people, but we're also lowering our overhead, getting rid of excess bills that we had no business taking on in the first place, and we're focusing on delivering on promised goods. What's even better than Danny's financial backing is his business backing. He knows what it takes to make a business run, and he's going to be working with us on a day to day basis.

We will deliver every order on the books by August 1st. We will process every refund that's pending within the same time frame.

Danny believes in us, and I believe in us. It will be done. My wife may divorce me before the end of the month.. I may not sleep as much as I would like... but I'm in for the long haul.

That's it. Fin.

End of story.
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 1widetc
As for people complaining... I think the 5 people that were complaining the most have all had previous experience with zpi... and so far one of them has got banned for standing up for what he believes in.
He was banned for other reasons, and Tomas made that very clear here. We ban people for breaking rules, not for voicing their opinions.

So Hillbilly, you're the new VP of ZPI? Welcome to SL and thanks for helping clean all of these orders up. Several people (myself included) appreciate your effort.
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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Yeah welcome to SL by the way

Its a huge drama pit :D
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboCustomz
you will notice they aren't competitors at all. They are either current customers, ex-customers, or lost potential customers. I have yet to see the Dezod boys, the turbonetics guys, the greddy guys, the world racing decent guys, or anyone else come on here just to trash talk them or say anything out of line.
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Originally Posted by HillBilly
I also believe the competitors you have listed are following Kenny from a performance standpoint. Kenny is the one who has blazed the trail for the Scion platform not those companies. If only Kenny had a million dollars when he started to make turbo kits none of this would have happened, he didn't and here I am.

But if he is so bad and done so many wrong things were are the PM's and emails to me?


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Scion Speed, who was the first company to build a turbo kit, produce numbers with a turbo kit, and market a turbo kit, ended up going out of business and a lot of people lost money in some form or fashion. I believe this to be a EXCELLENT reason for EVERYONE in this market to be sceptacle when they start seeing evidence that history is repeating itself with another company. Everyone on here has seen it happen before and I personally dont think people should be nieve when it comes to buying parts from anyone.
I guess this is what happened to the customers of Gordon Race Engineering also ? I can assure you one thing this will not happen to any ZPIracing customer. We may have some delays but at the end of the day no matter what all issues will be taken care of which is what we are proving right NOW !!!
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboCustomz
Originally Posted by TurboCustomz
you will notice they aren't competitors at all. They are either current customers, ex-customers, or lost potential customers. I have yet to see the Dezod boys, the turbonetics guys, the greddy guys, the world racing decent guys, or anyone else come on here just to trash talk them or say anything out of line.
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Originally Posted by HillBilly
I also believe the competitors you have listed are following Kenny from a performance standpoint. Kenny is the one who has blazed the trail for the Scion platform not those companies. If only Kenny had a million dollars when he started to make turbo kits none of this would have happened, he didn't and here I am.

But if he is so bad and done so many wrong things were are the PM's and emails to me?


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Scion Speed, who was the first company to build a turbo kit, produce numbers with a turbo kit, and market a turbo kit, ended up going out of business and a lot of people lost money in some form or fashion. I believe this to be a EXCELLENT reason for EVERYONE in this market to be sceptacle when they start seeing evidence that history is repeating itself with another company. Everyone on here has seen it happen before and I personally dont think people should be nieve when it comes to buying parts from anyone.
I guess this is what happened to the customers of Gordon Race Engineering also ? I can assure you one thing this will not happen to any ZPIracing customer. We may have some delays but at the end of the day no matter what all issues will be taken care of which is what we are proving right NOW !!!
What that a question?

I think maybe you should go back and re-group. I wasn't attacking you personal as much as taking up for other people that deserved some credit for their hard work as well. My point is we all know from experience watching companies like Scion Speed, Redline Motorsports, Touch of Class, Nocturnal, along with countless others that it takes a lot more for a company to succeed then it does for it to fail.

When people experience this, and then here stories (and many times these stories are blown WAY out of proportion) about phone calls not getting returned, or answered, emails not being replied to, crazy wait times on parts, or what have you, people begin to get scepticle. Things like this are bound to happen and when you throw the internet into the mix, things get crazy, just like so many threads have on here amoung other forums.

I've put my harsh feelings behind me and I am focusing on bettering my life and my work. You cut out everything else around the quote you made and it makes it look like an attack when it obviously wasn't. I've been done with attacks for a while now. Actions speak SO much louder then words. I'll let your actions speak for you, and I would appreciate it if you did the same for me. Internet bickering is so 1999 anyway. ;)

I hope everything sorts itself out for you and ZPI and Mr. Bower and that you get back on track. Prove the haters wrong and make ZPI what I envisioned it in 2004.

Good luck.

Charles
Old Jul 12, 2006 | 06:21 AM
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TurboCustomz / Hillbilly / Nester

This is a discussion between you to and is more appropriately hammered out in PM's...

I've seen this before between your parties and will not allow your past experiences to be continually and indefinately hammered out in the public forums, these are personally addressed and signed dialogues and will in the future be in PMs.

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