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I have a cool little video called "Water Power" that someone sent me, but unfortunately, I don't know how to save it or send it to anybody else except via e-mail. What this guy is doing with water is absolutely amazing !!!!
Originally Posted by joemamasmurf
Does anyone know if the "run your car on water" sites are actually legit? I don't know if I am just a cynic but it seems a little sketchy to me.
The nerve of some people.....
Anyway, HHO is one of the many monikers for Browns gas.
They are using electrolysis to create Browns gas which is fed into the engine and is expected to improve fuel mileage. "Run your car on water" is overstating what it does. The car still runs on fuel, just less.
Theres good science and claims that says it doesn't work and there's claims that says it does. HHO generator can be built by almost anyone and it does work (google for "smack booster"). In some cases, a mpg increase is achievable but at the same time – lean mixture and water vapor may kill your engine.....needs to be confirmed with UOA.
My friend and I are working on a couple of these for his truck. They do work, the science is sound, they are effective at increaseing MPG, and are worth looking into.
That being said, alot of the stuff you see there is hype, don't by any of the kits off Water4gas.com or similar sites. This will not replace normal dino fuel, it is just an improvement in efficency. Our first attempt running one on his truck got us around 15% increase in MPG. With just a few bucks in parts. Keep in mind though that alot of this stuff is for older engines, not the newer ones with O2 sensors and fuel map sensors. and internal A/F mixture sensors.
That being said, alot of the stuff you see there is hype, don't by any of the kits off Water4gas.com or similar sites. This will not replace normal dino fuel, it is just an improvement in efficency. Our first attempt running one on his truck got us around 15% increase in MPG. With just a few bucks in parts. Keep in mind though that alot of this stuff is for older engines, not the newer ones with O2 sensors and fuel map sensors. and internal A/F mixture sensors.
I just wanted to take a moment and share an experience I had with the sales department of fuelfromh2O.com. I'm not offering an opinion on HHO, or on their products, but I think anyone considering buying from this company should see what kind of people they will be dealing with. Make of it what you will.
The following is a correspondence I recently had with them via email. What I wrote is in blue, fuelfromH2O responses are in red.
Hello! I have a few questions about your products and how they operate.
1.) If the produced hydrogen is "burned", how does it become H2O again? The hydrogen should be missing at that point, no?
2.) Have there been any cases of engine components rusting?
3.) Have there been any studies to see if there are long-term side effects from using HHO in an engine?
4.) What happens if you let the water run out while the engine is operating? Anything?
5.) I'm not clear on the differences between your products. Are the microprocessors better, and if so, why? Why would I need 4 bricks over a single brick?
Thanks very much for any information you can provide!
~Cliff
Go back and review your 9th grade chemistry book, the answers are there. Check the electron levels and what happens with sub-diatomic hydrogen when combined with oxygen during combustion.
Yeah. I'll do all that. And then buy from someone else. That was a very rude response, and only addressed one of my five questions.
Wouldn't a simple explanation have been worth at least $400? Apparently not.
okay, we are not chemistry teachers, we hold no classes on basic chemistry. we don't instruct, teach or hold your hand. I suggest you go and ask someone else the fundementals of sub-diatomic hydrogen combustion principles see if they will take several hours to teach you what you could learn on your own if you made the effort.
You're also not good businesspeople. Or businessperson, as I suspect. If you were, you would indeed take a few minutes to "instruct". It was a simple question that only required a simple answer, not a freakin' thesis paper. I'm utterly amazed at the arrogance you show toward potential customers, considering the fact that there are instructions to build kits very similar to yours freely available. The reason I asked you is because there is no general consensus on how this works, or if it works. If there was, 50% of the information available wouldn't be calling it a scam. Yours is not the first website I've consulted.
Enjoy the bad press you're about to receive.
I'll pay $10 a gallon for gas before I buy anything from a company that treats potential customers this way. But I just thought others should know, in case they were considering a purchase. Buyer beware and whatnot.
~SM
The following is a correspondence I recently had with them via email. What I wrote is in blue, fuelfromH2O responses are in red.
Hello! I have a few questions about your products and how they operate.
1.) If the produced hydrogen is "burned", how does it become H2O again? The hydrogen should be missing at that point, no?
2.) Have there been any cases of engine components rusting?
3.) Have there been any studies to see if there are long-term side effects from using HHO in an engine?
4.) What happens if you let the water run out while the engine is operating? Anything?
5.) I'm not clear on the differences between your products. Are the microprocessors better, and if so, why? Why would I need 4 bricks over a single brick?
Thanks very much for any information you can provide!
~Cliff
Go back and review your 9th grade chemistry book, the answers are there. Check the electron levels and what happens with sub-diatomic hydrogen when combined with oxygen during combustion.
Yeah. I'll do all that. And then buy from someone else. That was a very rude response, and only addressed one of my five questions.
Wouldn't a simple explanation have been worth at least $400? Apparently not.
okay, we are not chemistry teachers, we hold no classes on basic chemistry. we don't instruct, teach or hold your hand. I suggest you go and ask someone else the fundementals of sub-diatomic hydrogen combustion principles see if they will take several hours to teach you what you could learn on your own if you made the effort.
You're also not good businesspeople. Or businessperson, as I suspect. If you were, you would indeed take a few minutes to "instruct". It was a simple question that only required a simple answer, not a freakin' thesis paper. I'm utterly amazed at the arrogance you show toward potential customers, considering the fact that there are instructions to build kits very similar to yours freely available. The reason I asked you is because there is no general consensus on how this works, or if it works. If there was, 50% of the information available wouldn't be calling it a scam. Yours is not the first website I've consulted.
Enjoy the bad press you're about to receive.
I'll pay $10 a gallon for gas before I buy anything from a company that treats potential customers this way. But I just thought others should know, in case they were considering a purchase. Buyer beware and whatnot.
~SM
Originally Posted by Daytona955i
Keep in mind though that alot of this stuff is for older engines, not the newer ones with O2 sensors and fuel map sensors. and internal A/F mixture sensors.
i built a test kit using home depot parts....just to see if it'll combust...and it does. theory behind it is good, however like somebody said it'll work on a carburated engine straight out of the box but when you imply it on a fuel injected car with oxygen sensor and ecu's it kinda defeats the purpose since your ecu will think you're running lean and try to inject more fuel into you engine....solution a device called EFIE(tricks your ecu to thinking the engine is running rich)
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