Originally Posted by HeathenBrewing

Dodge DOES say to put ATF +3 in the AUTOMATIC transmission, not the manual:

Neon Transmission Data
Manual Transmission: Mopar MTX lubricant, p/n 4773167
Automatic Transmission: ATF+3, type 7176


http://faq.neons.org/faq/

As the above links shows, Neon manual transmissions do NOT use ATF. ATF would not provide any substantial shearing relief to a MT and would accelerate the wear on the gears very rapidly. Just as MT oil would NOT work in a AT.

Where did you read that ATF goes in Scion MT? I think you misread somewhere along the way.

Dont take things so seriously man. Just do a little bit of research on this site and you will see that 90% of your questions have been asked and answered already. Im not just being a d*ck...one of the reason the search feature on this site takes so long to find any relevant info is because there are 12366 posts about the same thing (i.e. what springs give me what drop?, how do I mount cathodes, etc.).

Im just trying to make this a cleaner site, thats all.

Originally Posted by Shakerhood

Just because the Spec you show does not recommend ATF in a Manual Tranny does not mean that it is not used in other Transmissions.

Originally Posted by Shakerhood

Yes, Make sure you Read your Service Manual or Owners Manual to make sure you are installing the correct fluid for your Vehicle!

Originally Posted by HeathenBrewing

scion04xb was the one said the neon manual used ATF. I showed that was incorrect. Simple as that.

Originally Posted by blackcherrytc813

major investment and not READ THE OWNERS MANUAL!!!! well he does have a point, you cant take what a autoparts store says and always do it. just read the d@mn manuel, all esle fails go to the dealer and find out what they put in it, and being a certified mechanic i can honestly say i have never once seen a manuel tranny say to put ATF in the case.

Originally Posted by Shakerhood

You must have not worked on too many Vehicles yet as a Certified Mechanic as there are plenty of Vehicles that Spec ATF in their Manual Trannies. As was said earlier in this Post, Royal Purple Syncromax is what many people run in cars that are required to use ATF.
http://www.royalpurple.com/prodsa/scmax.html

Originally Posted by tCizzler

Not taking sides because i don't know enough either way, but you said some cars spec ATF in manual trannies, then in your example you said to put manual fluid in a AT vehicle. Thats backwards and really doesn't have relevance to whether or not cars "spec's" to do such a thing. And also i think the main question is "is it ok to put ATF in a Manual tranny", not manual fluid in a AT

Just my .02

I'm a little confused???? I have personally NEVER heard to use ATF in a manual, but hey, i have an open mind if i have proof, real proof.

Originally Posted by paul34

don't use royal purple. It'll mess up your synchro performance after a few weeks. If you're going to switch, switch to the redline mt-90

Originally Posted by combatsteve

I was just figuring that the synthetic had lower friction and might help a little bit on getting more of the energy to the wheels. I didn't think it would be anything noticible, but maybe with other changes they may add up to something.

Originally Posted by Shogun

I think people may be using the Synchromax instead of the Max-Gear Gear Oil.

Synthetic Gear Oil» Max-Gear is formulated to improve the efficiency of rear end assemblies and manual transmissions. Virtually eliminates both gear and bearing wear. API GL-4 / GL-5 Certified.

I changed to Royal Purple Max-Gear 75w-90 at my first oil change at 5K miles. I am now at 11,000 miles, running Royal Purple Synthetic Oil as well, and I have absolutely no complaints. It was well worth the money.