First and foremost I can't believe I read the whole fricking thread! It seems that the ones saying get over it are the ones that really don't have paint issues!I thought that that's what it was about PAINT ISSUES not wow iwas lucky , maybe you're over
reacting. I've had a couple of new cars and eventhough I love my scion, it has the worst paint I've ever seen on a car-and yes you can scratch it with your fingernail!I'm taking my car to the dealership next week because like a sucker I bought the works when it came to warrenty and no your not going to tell me it's normal to scratch a brand new car with your finger! BTW my car is a month and 1/2 old and has more "dings" than my ten year old corolla did!

 

haha.. good luck with that. sorry to inform you but no matter how much you paid them for any type of "paint protection" warranty, it will not cover "normal wear and tear", which to Scion, includes scratching from looking at the car the wrong way, or chipping due to excessive breathing on. best advice is to go out and pay to get a ClearBra why your paint still looks decent enough to do it.

 

I use paste wax, and the paint is so slick that fingernails just skate around on it.

 

So THAT's what's wrong with my hood... all those heavy breathers hanging around the front of my car...

 

for everyone on this thread you all need to go to the center for automotive safety or CAS website and file a complaint also go to the National highway traffic safety addministration website scions are listed under toyotas there and everyone needs to file an online complaint about the paint this is the only way you will ever get a recall on the car period. complaining to scion will not get them to budge an inch once there is enough people at the center for automotive safety they will start a class action lawsuit and demand a recall this is how firestone tires on fords got recalled and how the gas tanks in ford pinto's got replaced. You need to file a complaint online with both websites and it takes alot of people complaining just my 2 cents to help you all solve your issue's on scions faulty paint.

 

^^ paint is not exactly a safety issue. They wont do jack about that.

 

I understand your thoughts about paint not being a safety issue but they do successfully lititagate paint and other defect claims they have been responsible for numerous manufacturer paint recalls so please do what you want with my advice if you don't get the frequency of complaints pulled together you acomplish nothing and there you will and an attorney will be able to speak for everyone and hopefully get a recall or get everyones cars repainted that have valid claims. we also need to be contacting them about other issues as well. I am going to leave it at that but complaining on forums only goes so far complain to resources that might actually take action once they get enough complaints there is power in numbers. I'm off this thread but I think thats everyone's best chance.

 

"Description :*

Incident Date :* Month_____Day___ Year_____
Was there a Fire : Yes No
Number of Failures: Property Damage : Yes No
Number of Deaths: Was there a Crash : Yes No
Number of Persons Injured: Reported to Police : Yes No
What source referred you to this site :"

^^^
From http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/

which is the nhtsa complaint form. They are looking for things that lead to injury or death, or at least have the potential to cause injury or death. Paint ain't gonna cut it.

Name one.

 

there is a more complete complaint form available at the center for automotive safety so let me educate you first in order to have a recall on any vehicle wether it be paint safety or otherwise there has to be a large frequency of complaints about the same issue most of the time people file their complaints with the center for automotive safety or CAS then once their are enough complaints an attorney will contact all the people who have filed complaints and file a class action suite sometimes you get a recall sometimes you don't. prime example chevorelet S-10 pickup trucks were litigated through CAS and a recall was issued to have certain year models and colors repainted. Cas litigates against NHTSA in most recall cases it weakens the NHTSA to have as many complaints on file with them as possible even though it does no good imediatly it is going to help once a class action suite starts. There are thousands of recalls that should be done that aren't because of lawyers prime example the ford focus all models the aibag propellant has been shown to ignite in accidents burning occupants of the car causing severe injury sometimes death this one is still being fought in court. Ford focus fuel pumps stall sporadically causing people to rapidly deselerate in traffic causing accidents this one is currently being apealed my point is that if you never file a complaint with CAS and let your voice at least be heard what good is it yes your car may have to be repainted by you save your receipt. yes scion is going to do anything they can to get out of paying for a new paint job. If you were to get a new paint job from the factory don't you think that one is going to peel right back off too and go through the whole process over. the NHTSA site is hard to navigate and there is a longer complaint form then this guy posted he chose selective excerpts but I would definently recomend a complaint with CAS if a recall is ever issued at least you'll get reimbursed for the paint job you had to pay for and you help other by letting your voice be heard. Also if a complaint form doesn't meet your needs what ever happened to writing a letter. I just tried to help ot doesn't really matter to me my paint is fine on my scion I was just letting people know how if they ever want to try to get a recall issued thats how you have to do it yeah it sucks and the system is screwed up but I didn't make it and guess what sometimes it works most of the time it doesn't but you never know until you try.

 

For someone who can't write without using run-on sentences, you're a fine one to talk.

Nice try. The recall was because the windshield adhesive was applied to the paint, and the paint would fail, causing the windshield to not stay in place.

 

you must work for scion because you have no interest in helping owners there were many recalls on the S-10 I know I own one and the paint flaked off the rear quarter panel and the whole car was repainted under a recall which was seperate from the winshield you can criticize what I posted all you want. You can also criticize my dislexia all you want it doesn't bother me but the bottom line is if peopel ever want a chance in this world of a recall they have to file a complaint period end of story.Or if the car is under warranty take it to the dealership three times and file it under the lemaon law through an attorney. I also find this issue very pressing since toyota is now swithcing to water based paints. I wonder how long watercolors will last on a car. I would suggest being a constructive thinker and helping others. and posting your own original ideas instead of trashing others beacuse your too ignorant to come up with an intelligent post yourself.

 

My wife is lysdexic, and she can write perfectly. (sorry, that's what she and others call it to make light of it)
Being lazy - that's what your posts are - is not the same. Dyslexia is not run-on sentances, ALL-CAPS typing, or otherwise unintelligable writing.
I don't mock your problems, but if you want to participate, please think of those whom you want reading your posts.
Long posts, like those above, are almost impossible to read and absorb on a computer screen.

Scott

 

Call me nuts but at this point this subject should be locked. The posts aren't even on the subject anymore, there seem to be nothing but insults going on, and people have already posted many solutions to the problem. Advice should be taken and used if wished. If it's not what anyone wants to hear they should come up with their own solution and follow. It's amazing how a tight knit group like ours can be so rude at times just because someone hears something they don't want to.

 

I don't mean to sound rude in saying this but judging somone because of somone elses problems is wrong I am dislexic,I was also hit by a drunk driver 3 years ago an illegal immigrant with no license no insurance I've had six back operations,reconstructive surgery on my hands face and legs I am constantly being treated with duragesic which is 12 times stronger than morphine I alos have to take percocet for breakthrough pain topomax for uncontrollable leg spasms as well as cymbalta just to be able to walk. I have to take 14 other medications that do affect my writing all of them as well as my dislexia unfortunantly and I still work and don't live off the government and your tax dolars and if that makes me lazy then so be it. ever since I have joined this forum and I have helped alot of people because I've always been the best automotive technican I could be I also have a degree in computer repair and I am a journeyman smith with the american bladesmith society I have been criticized for my writing,grammer,punctuation the whole time I was just doing the best i could and trying to help other people and it really hurts my feelings that people are so critical of others when we should all be trying to help one another with our cars. we shouldn't be enemy against each other we should work together to fix our cars get recalls done if need be expase problems if there are any I exposed a problem with the 2006 XA spark plugs recently. I am reaching the point where I am going to leave the forums altogether because of nasty things said and private messages sent it's terrible. I've never said mean things about people. I just wanted to help people try to get a recall on their paint issues and they call me vulger names and send me vulger messages it's wrong. I'm new to this forum and it has already made me wish I didn't purchase a scion because of a select few. I thought CAS might coud help people. I'm sure there are some smaller forums with people that will accept good information regardles of my disabilities and handicapes I live off 350 dollars a month now I rebuild engines on donated cars for our local salvation army and habitat for humanity. I can't afford half the stuff you guys take for granted like big stereos and rims I want a set of rims for my car I'll get them four years from now thats how meticiously I have to save. My car was a gift. I used to make a very nice living building engines for honda I also buit race engines but my dream was taken from me and now one of my only outlets to people. is being taken away because people have a problem with my grammer so I'm leaving sice I'm lazy. thanks alot your words cut like a knife lock the thread somone else on some other site will appreciate the problems I've found on the car and now the problem I'm currently researching with the factory thermostats. Happy easter to all the good people out there.

 

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^AMEN to that borother! Some of the people on this thread should be ashamed to running someone off just because of the fact that the solution posed wasn't easy enough for them to follow.

 

Um, guys, this was a PAINT thread, not a sparkplug gap thread???

 

I don't agree that this post should be locked, because it's best that it remain as visible as possible so that others experiencing paint problems will see it.

Anyway, please, everyone, take a few minutes to file a complaint at the websites listed above- the more we have take action, the better.

My dad just bought a new fully loaded Avalon, and I told him the first thing I recommended he do was go out and have a clearBra installed. Toyotas are wonderful cars, but it really is a shame that the paint is as unfortunate as it appears to be on a number of the cars. We should all come together and try as hard as possible to get some action taken (or at least let Toyota know that this subpar paint is not acceptable).

 

I'd like to help out, but frankly, I don't see it (yet)
I looked at my tC and all my friends and co-worker's cars, and I don't see mine being less than, and in fact, it's better than a heck of a lot of theirs.

Keeping an open mind and two open eyes...

Scott

 

Ooops....I wondered where that darn sparkplug post of mine went to.

Post deleted due to brain fart.