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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 05:44 AM
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OK we talked about which oil but what about the FILTER? What do ya'll reccowmend?
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by dulcimoo
OK we talked about which oil but what about the FILTER? What do ya'll reccowmend?
Dealer or Mobil 1

DO NOT TOUCH FRAMS! RESEARCH ANY OTHER MAKES OF FILTERS TO MAKE SURE THEY"RE NOT JUST REBADGED FRAMS!!!!
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 03:41 AM
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What's wrong with frams?
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by dulcimoo
What's wrong with frams?
http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html

Most notably: "Russell,
I obtained great satisfaction from reading your oil filter survey.

I worked for two years as the oil-filter production line engineer in
an Allied-Signal FRAM facility and I can confirm every bad thing you
have said about FRAM automotive filters. That's from the horse's
mouth, as it were.

I'm also a quality engineer and can confirm that FRAM applies no
quality control whatsoever to any of the characteristics for which we
buy oil filters. I frequently saw filter designs which were barely
capable of meeting J806. Many of FRAM's designs will block and go to
bypass after trying to filter very little contamination. There were
often leakage paths at the paper end discs when these were not
properly centered on the elements. Some designs had the pleats so
tightly packed against the center tube that they would block off in no
time. I had discovered that the FRAM HP1 that I had been buying for
about $20 Cdn was EXACTLY the same as a PH8 inside - the only
difference being a heavier can - no advantages in flow capacity. The
paper filtration media was of apparently poor quality and the process
of curing the paper resin was very inconsistent - elements would range
from visibly burnt to white. FRAM's marketers admitted that there was
just about no way the public could ever prove that an oil filter
contributed, or did not prevent, engine damage. The only thing FRAM
tested for was can burst strength. Another problem that they have from
time to time is in threading the filter base - often there are strands
of metal left behind on a poorly formed thread.

I have not used a FRAM filter since I started working there. Their
claims are entirely and completely marketing bull****.

If people really want to protect their engines, a good air filter is
vital (which excludes FRAM from that list as well) and a combination
of one depth and one full-flow hydraulic filter, together in parallel,
will do the job of filtration to perfection.

Thanks for doing a great job in trying to get the truth out! You can
quote me anytime. "

Do a search on google about oil filter studies - frams always come out last, even theri heavy duty ones.
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 05:39 PM
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i have seen posts stating that the TRD oil filter filters out more fine particulate matter, which would seem to be a good thing....

this is the description on a Toyota site:

TRD High-Performance Oil Filters are available for virtually any Toyota model, and are designed to protect vital engine parts in challenging situations. Their heavy-gauge steel mounting plate reduces flexing during high-RPM operation, and a double-locking seal increases reliability in high-pressure applications. A silicone anti-drawn valve stays flexible at extreme temperatures and eliminates the dry start-wear.

Arch-pleated, low restriction internal filter media lets the engine pump more oil, helping to protect vital engine components. TRD High-Performance filters don't just protect better, they protect longer. Their high-quality filter media holds up to 45% more dirt, metal particles, and contaminants than other leading brands.


i have one that i am going to try on my next oil change....
Old Jan 30, 2004 | 02:46 AM
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http://www.overboost.com/story.asp?id=1143

while I don't agree exactly with their conclusions it does give some good insight into how the filters are composed. I would seem to draw that the Purolaters to be a good choice...
Old Jan 31, 2004 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 2fixA
http://www.overboost.com/story.asp?id=1143

while I don't agree exactly with their conclusions it does give some good insight into how the filters are composed. I would seem to draw that the Purolaters to be a good choice...
Purolaters and AC Delco have been known to explode .... i personally had an AC Delco explode on my 22r .... which is why i only use Mobile1 (when i can find them) or K&N ... more expensive but definately worth the extra price
Old Jan 31, 2004 | 04:24 PM
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I have never seen nor heard of a pureone filter exploding, never. the force behind the oil pump isnt great enough to pop a tin can, it just aint gonna happen. Now, if you installed the filter with a dry gasket, or the gasket was faulty, then maybe a pressure leak at the seal.

I use the PurOne oil filter, you can get it a PepBoys for about 5 - 6 bucks. It is a metallic bue filter, and has a blue rubber diaphram on the top inside to help with cole starts. I have been using this set up for close to 15 years now, and havent had one problem. I use this filter and Mobil 1, 5W30 in the winter, 10W30 in the summer.
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Originally Posted by toybox1
Originally Posted by 2fixA
http://www.overboost.com/story.asp?id=1143

while I don't agree exactly with their conclusions it does give some good insight into how the filters are composed. I would seem to draw that the Purolaters to be a good choice...
Purolaters and AC Delco have been known to explode .... i personally had an AC Delco explode on my 22r .... which is why i only use Mobile1 (when i can find them) or K&N ... more expensive but definately worth the extra price
like i said, get the TRD oil filter!

if you read the description by Toyota Corp., it sounds pretty damn good to me....i will be posting my observations using one after next oil change....
Old Jan 31, 2004 | 04:59 PM
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i always get toyota oil filter for mine
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