OK, so I've managed to acquire about 4-5 spider-chips
and cracks on my windshield within a few months..
it's ___ and I hate Scion for that. But, I love my Scion.

I recently got a PPG brand windshield (new).. they usually do
all the Honda cars (OEM).. well a ping pong sized rock hit my car
harder than anything I have ever witnessed. I thought I was gonna die
but nothing is on my windshield! not even a chip! just a l'il pit.

I was soooo surprised.. thank god I went with PPG.. I lost trust in
Toyota the first time so I was reluctant to get another one..
I got a PPG one installed with a NEW weather strip (at my house)
for like 520 bucks or so.

If anybody gets a new xB glass, get PPG, it looks 99.9% like the OEM one
so it's all good!
Just thought I'd share with u all.. hopefully I can save a few asses.

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Good to know, i've been wondering about all these cracked window horror stories and the crappy quality of the OEM replacement.

One question though, why would my ___ be up by the windshield while I'm driving? I had my cranial optorectumy when I was in the service!!!

 

damn, i never realized how many people have cracked windows. hahaha...unfortunately, i'm part of the "cracked windows" crew as well... PPG sounds like it's a good deal, thanx for the info man.

 

Wish I wouold have known about this before I had mine replaced through my insurance company. I'm noe to this so what is the diference between the 2. Is the PPG made of plex or something?? Well thanks if anyone can answer this and thanks for the info too.

 

Just for your information PPG is THE SAME as Toyota. PPG make most all glass for Toyota. My pop's 4RUNNER from the factory says "Toyota" on the right bottom corner, then below that it says PPG. Its funny, the only aftermarket windshield for the xB is made by PPG, and the "Toyota" windshield is over 100 dollars more. My windshield is on order, and it will be a "Toyota". I think with your PPG, and the rock that hit it -WAS PLAIN LUCK!!--my crack started from a chip by the VIN #. Its now split in two directions!! Yesterday, A rock hit my windshield ( as big as the last one) dead center of my windshield. Just a little nick was left....Its Luck- that's the only way to slice it- GLASS is GLASS, no matter who its from- the only thing that can differ is the amount off tint, and or a tint strip.

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i beg to differ.
the guy who installed the glass told me PPG makes most honda's and some toyota's.
there was no place on my oem windshield that containted PPG markings or labels?
does yours?

im not turning this into an argument but im just telling u how it is..
AND the PPG costs less than the toyota one..

i just thought i'd share my own experiences to the benefit of others.
if u can prove that oem glass IS the same as the PPG class being sold in
stores, ill eat my words

 

The bottom line is GLASS is GLASS! I did not say my xB's windshield said PPG. I said "PPG make most all glass for toyota. My pop's 4RUNNER from the factory says "Toyota" on the right bottom corner, then below that it says PPG.

The only difference between the two is the name- a "Toyota" windshield cost more (as I stated before) because of the name. a PPG is THE SAME!

For you to say a PPG winshield is stronger or better in anyway to a Toyota is rediculous!!!
PROVE THAT!

 

Well the biggest rock I've ever hit AND at the highest velocity didn't crack anything.
Whereas I had about 4 spider cracks and a big ___ line crack from little things.

I'm just gonna shut up and let u win this pointless dispute.
'OK dude, PPG is Toyota and Toyota is PPG'

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I've always had this problem with Toyota, the only Toyota windshields that haven't broken are my Tundra and xB but the Tundra does
have a little chip I think was done purposely, anyways on really hot days keep at least 1 window slightly open just a little, this should help.

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come on guys, hahajoey was trying to help us by sharing his experience....

try to appreciate it

 

appreciate what?

the fact that they are the same? look how the whole thread is tagged "windshield tip"...

whatever, IM DONE!

 

oh schnap! unfocused....you want to trade spots with hahajoey? lol...

 

Joey....

Interesting that you started the thread....I too had a crack on my factory windshield...The funny thing is that the cracked stemmed from a rock pit less then 1mm in diameter and to top it off, it cracked when the car was sitting still!

I had a PPG glass installed....and while driving to Vegas for the Extreme Autofest i heard the loudest PLAKK on my windshield...I'm like WTF! Im on my way to the show and i get a crack..*****....I also saw a slight glare that
appeared to be a crack. So I thought what I'm i going to do?? I guess just put a decal over it! haha...

Anyways..at the show, I was cleaning my windshield and amazingly it was a bug that hit the windshield and the glare was just the guts.... but i swear, it sounded worse than any rock that had hit it....

Well my point for rambling on, for some reason i have to believe that the PPG aftermarket windshield holds a higher standard then the factory glass...Whether the factory glass is made by PPG or not, the PPG aftermarket seems a lot stronger.

**Knock on wood**

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Well I just thought since there are so many threads/posts/complains about the xB's damn glass being crappy... i wanted people to know!

I paid 525 installed including a NEW weather strip (40 bucks from the dealer)
from this place i was recommended to.... they sell the PPG branded glass
and i'm very pleased with the results.. i can't really say that about my OEM glass
cuz i had cracks in it after 3 weeks of purchase.. then more and more and more till it
got so bad, it was practically unsafe to drive.

the dealer sells the glass for 505 i believe or something like that + tax + labor + weather strip.. you can believe what u want(you non-believers) but PPG has made
me a very happy camper, maybe the OEM (PPG or not) is a different batch?

I do see differences in the patterns on the black dots on the edges and what not. That's why I think the OEM one isn't PPG.

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I think it's a fair statement to say that going to a 3rd party for a windshield replacement will save you quite a bit compared to the dealer. My wife called Saturn for a windshield on her VUE last week, and the dealer straight out told her "go to the place around the corner, we use them and just add on extra profit." True enough, that place was around $100 less than the dealer, and the dealer doesn't even do the install (in my instance, yours of course may vary).

 

good to know. we got 2 huge chips in our windshield in one week. it looks like we were in a shootout.

 

Not all glass is the same -- that's like saying all tire compounds are the same. Different material, heating process and shaping techniques are used by different companies.

There are huge variations in quality and durabilty between manufacturers -- it's why I refused to take a third party manufacturer's rear window for my Volvo when my neighbor smashed it. Do some research on it and you'll be surprised how technically advanced windshield development is.

 

i agree with yoshi completely....

but u gotta understand.. lots of ignorance and 'i think i know' bull____ goes on.

the info i provided was my own first hand experience as well as what the
glass repair company/and installer told me as well as a local toyota/scion dealership

 

Like the magna flow muffler and the TRD muffler, right? Does PPG sell to toyota?



well? Do they?

 

I just had my windshield replaced yesterday. The shop said they only had one type that they could find and it is a PPG. I'll keep you posted on how it handles any flying debris.