citizen01

Matt disagreeing with something out of the white house!?

j/k

matt_a

Ha-ha-ha, wise guy. It happens more often than you might think.

hotbox05

i don't think this is a good way to spend money but i also don't think the house or the senate will want to spend it it might take money away from their own pockets.

citizen01

LOL... trust me, members of the house/senate have thier wallets protected. Those guys won't ever see a pay cut.

matt_a

If we ever set up shop on the moon, the first thing they'll do is spread a bunch of red dust around and fake a Mars landing.

citizen01

Does anyone have a link to a good website that explains reasons that suggest the first landing to be a fraud? I am completely out of the loop on this one.

jrodTc

So random!!! Yet delicious

matt_a

I don't have a link off hand, but yeah...there's a bunch of people who think the moon landings were all faked and filmed here on earth in a studio or out in the desert.
I also saw a show that disproved all of the "reasons" why people think it was faked. They set up all kinds of recreations and stuff. It was pretty interesting.

citizen01

thanks hun, yeah that does sound interesting... I'll have to look into it.

matt_a

No problem, sugar pants.

krustytheclown

A couple of results when "Was the moon landing faked" into google.

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_...ax_accusations
http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html

Jenna

It has been a long time since I've watched a good moon landing hoax show. I did though, last year, watch one that was proving the moon landing real by explaining all the iffy stuff.

There is a lot of debunking on the internet. I would have to go back and re-watch "Conspiracy Theory: Did We Really Land on the Moon?" and then look up each individual point (there were many) on that show and see the debunking of it online.

citizen01

With enough time/motivation/money/knowledge you could make a case for just about anything. It makes life interesting.

seattledave

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_8

Jenna

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon_land.htm

http://isohunt.com/torrents/moon+con...2&iho1=d&iht=1

Watch these.

Whether or not you change your thoughts on what went down back then, it is something you should know about. This isn't really just a few wackos that think the moon landing was a hoax or that at least the footage of it was. I don't know what to believe. It really depends on what side of the conspiracy is being defended at the time, lol. I do, however, feel that there were shenanigans of some sort. Absolute shenanigans.

seattledave

i'm hesitantly with you jenna, while apollo 8 has got oddities, apollo 14 did confirm their moonlanding, as they put essentially mirrors on the surface.

citizen01

When looking at the big picture a couple essential questions come up the first of which being...

How is it possible for the entire NASA staff to keep a secret? (My freakin best friends can't keep my secrets )

Jenna

Ah, but there are conspiracies on how those little mirrors got there too, lol.

Whether or not we did have people on the moon who were safely returned to us, I believe there was a faked film about the landing. They say that Nixon was very upset that NASA couldn't promise filmed footage of the first space walk and that's understandable... I mean, we've got to show up them damn Soviets who were about to put a man on the moon any day now. Nixon went through the effort of pretaping a speech to the U.S. about the astronauts not being able to get off the moon (their death basically), why not pretape some must-have footage of the moon walk, just in case?

Bah. This is the kind of conversation my old weed hook up would have for hours on end. It's not quite the same... no Keith and no weed.

Jenna

I don't think they have kept it completely secret. Even in that first video I linked, you've got Donald Rumsfield, Henry Kissinger and two other dopes who were supposedly Nixon's advisers back then, speaking about hiring the guy from 2001: Space Odyssey to film footage. And there is a lot of secrecy in our Government... some are quiet about it and some debunk the rumors saying everyone is just looking for some sort of conspiracy. Ah, my friends the Freemasons are like that too.

Ah, I love me some Masonry!

citizen01

Yeah, can't see that on my work computer. Maybe SL needs a conspiracy thread so I can catch up on this stuff. But wait till tomorrow cause I am off work.