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Old May 22, 2007 | 05:07 PM
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Yes or no answer.

Yes, they do experience emotional changes.
No, they do not.



My point is that if the answer is yes why would we subject the free world to an unstable mind? Would we elect somebody who showed slight signs of schitsofrenia once a month?
Old May 22, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by scionofPCFL
I'll answer this with a question of my own: Have you ever worked directly under a woman boss?

If you have, then you most likely know what I'm talking about. If you haven't, or if you've been lucky enough to have a decent woman boss, then God bless ya.

Oh, and this has nothing to do with Aunt Flo, either.
Yes.

I felt her to be a _____ 24/7, 365 days a week. I don't think her period had anything to do with it either.

Also, I have worked under a male boss who was a _____ 24/7, 365 days a week also. I don't think his period had anything to do with it either.

I truly think that men bosses can be every bit difficult as a woman boss. It's just that men like to chalk the woman's actions to PMS.
Old May 22, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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I will throw this in. If the woman running for president was politically similar to Margaret Thatcher, I would vote for her. If it was Hilary Clinton, not a chance in hell.
Old May 22, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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I don't care about the emotional changes, what i care about is whether the person in charge is going to alienate the government from the populace.

I also stand by the idea that the biggest obstacle, by far, for a woman president will be the female vote.
Old May 22, 2007 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by citizen01
Yes or no answer.

Yes, they do experience emotional changes.
No, they do not.



My point is that if the answer is yes why would we subject the free world to an unstable mind? Would we elect somebody who showed slight signs of schitsofrenia once a month?
I already answered that question. Go back a few posts.

Are you comparing periods to schizophrenia?
Old May 22, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Jenna
Originally Posted by matt_a
Originally Posted by Jenna
What do we all say or think when a man makes a bad decision? It's just a bad decision, right? Or do men not make them?
We say he's an idiot
Right. And instead of a woman being an "idiot", you term her as premenstrual. Nice.
Nope. I never said that. You're putting words in my mouth. There is a big difference between saying that PMS could cause a bad decision, and saying that every bad decision is caused by PMS.
Old May 22, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by scionofPCFL

I also stand by the idea that the biggest obstacle, by far, for a woman president will be the female vote.
I will agree with that 100%. I now many women who have said to me that they think a woman couldn't handle being president.
Old May 22, 2007 | 05:14 PM
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It's just that men like to chalk the woman's actions to PMS.
It has nothing do with that, and everything to do with women hating each other. When a male boss is a biscuit, he's usually a biscuit to everyone in the office. When a female boss is a biscuit, it's usually only to the other women.
Old May 22, 2007 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by citizen01
Yes or no answer.

Yes, they do experience emotional changes.
No, they do not.



My point is that if the answer is yes why would we subject the free world to an unstable mind? Would we elect somebody who showed slight signs of schitsofrenia once a month?
America elected Bush didn't you?






















ahhh this was a good one
Old May 22, 2007 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by javastan
I will throw this in. If the woman running for president was politically similar to Margaret Thatcher, I would vote for her. If it was Hilary Clinton, not a chance in hell.
Now are you against Hillary because of her emotional/PMS issues or because of her political stances?
Old May 22, 2007 | 05:17 PM
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Bush showed signs of idiocy, which is why I think so many in America relate to him. A far cry from schizo.
Old May 22, 2007 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by scionofPCFL
Originally Posted by tC4italy
Originally Posted by scionofPCFL
I'll answer this with a question of my own: Have you ever worked directly under a woman boss?

If you have, then you most likely know what I'm talking about. If you haven't, or if you've been lucky enough to have a decent woman boss, then God bless ya.
And here it is citizen
Just so you know, I know several women that refuse to work under another woman. Now, I'm not saying they are all king of the HS cool kid wanna bes, but it does seem to be a little on the common side.

Like I said, nothing to do with PMS.

I worked for a male boss and he did nothing but treat us like crap and look and make comments and kinda selling the cute asian paralegal to get more clients.

My boss right now is a female and she cares about all of us women/men alike under her.


:ywan: I guess I AM blessed
Old May 22, 2007 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by matt_a
Originally Posted by Jenna
Originally Posted by matt_a
Originally Posted by Jenna
What do we all say or think when a man makes a bad decision? It's just a bad decision, right? Or do men not make them?
We say he's an idiot
Right. And instead of a woman being an "idiot", you term her as premenstrual. Nice.
Nope. I never said that. You're putting words in my mouth. There is a big difference between saying that PMS could cause a bad decision, and saying that every bad decision is caused by PMS.
I don't like it when people put words in my mouth so I'm sorry I did it to you. I must say though, many of your posts so far in this thread have led me to that assumption though.
Old May 22, 2007 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Jenna
Originally Posted by javastan
I will throw this in. If the woman running for president was politically similar to Margaret Thatcher, I would vote for her. If it was Hilary Clinton, not a chance in hell.
Now are you against Hillary because of her emotional/PMS issues or because of her political stances?
Her political stance, I am not worried about a woman in her mid fifties having PMS. I don't see the world through socialism coloured glasses like she does. Nor do I think the government is a soultion to your problems. Ronald Reagan said it best. "the nine worst words anybody could here are I'm from the government and I'm here to help"
Old May 22, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Jenna
I don't like it when people put words in my mouth so I'm sorry I did it to you. I must say though, many of your posts so far in this thread have led me to that assumption though.
Than I must not be wording my post very well, because I certainly never meant to insinuate that. I even agreed with you that men play the "PMS card" on women way too often.
Old May 22, 2007 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Jenna
So as a 30 year old woman who has her period, people don't know where they stand with me and that I don't make logical choices???
I'm sure you do normally make logical choices, and I'm sure you, like most women make logical choices even on your period, but those choices weren't chosen necessarily because they were logical, but because you just felt like choosing it.

You've never torn something down to redo it all over again because you felt like it should be done, even when it was very possible to just patch it up or do it "good enough"?

You don't have your husband or children go off and do some chore they normally wouldn't be charge with doing, just because you're ____y(even if you are rightfully so?).

Hm. So that's the case with most females? Most females have emotional states of minds and normal ones. Good to know. Can you back that up a bit with something?
back it up with what, scientific research that would show a sexual bias? no i can't, but we don't even like to admit when there's physical medical differences between races, much less sexes.

And could not a persons track record prove them capable of any job? Or does being female automatically deem them as not always having a "normal state of mind" and just flat out makes them less qualified or fit to have an important job??
if a woman always were to keep her head level then that's no problem, and i do know quite a few that do...but come to think of it, they're all 45+.

I'm not saying this because I've had a bad experience with women at work, quite the contrary. I get treated extremely well by older women at work(i'm only 27, so most people i work with are older), as i'm tall/attractive/well spoken and more intune with women than most guys, and I'm very good at subtly working over women(yes, i'm a bad man). But I watch people, and it's very easy to see nearly all women from 20-45 in a large company have a woman they hate, and a woman or guy they use as a scape goat.

I'm sure you could ask the majority of women whether they'd prefer a male boss or a female boss and it would be overwhelmingly male. and the only guys who prefer a female boss/supervisor are the ones who find them easy to manipulate like me.

I get along with women at work easily, young and old, but if i wasn't "like-liked" by them and knew how to deal with a woman, then i would likely have to suffer their wraith. I go into new jobs lightly, like playing some texas hold'em, and the people i have to work first are women.

Find me something, somewhere, that says women do not make logical decisions.
how about my posting? or the majority of men in relationships with women?

Then find me something that says that pure logical decisions are superior over logical and emotional based decisions. Two is better than one.
when talking about a decision that involves other people, you should not subject them to emotional decisions that are irrational. It's like the people who "feel god" or "know god", those are all emotional decisions, not logical ones. Usually people later logically try and rationalize them, but they're not.

I haven't seen many women scream at work. I also don't feel your experiences with who knows how many professional women at your work, speak for the rest of the population of us.
probably not. but i've worked in your classic office environments for the last 11 years, in companies that range from 20-120 employees, where I think it's recognized the most.
Old May 22, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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For those women with premenstrual symptoms that make them emotional to a point where it affects their decision making abilities, THEY NEVER WOULD OF EVEN MADE IT TO ANY OFFICE, LET ALONE BE A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE!!! Just like a schizophrenic, or a person quick to violent rage, or one who makes non-logical decisions, or whatever.

Yes or no?
Old May 22, 2007 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jenna
For those women with premenstrual symptoms that make them emotional to a point where it affects their decision making abilities, THEY NEVER WOULD OF EVEN MADE IT TO ANY OFFICE, LET ALONE BE A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE!!! Just like a schizophrenic, or a person quick to violent rage, or one who makes non-logical decisions, or whatever.

Yes or no?
no. good lord no.
I'm looking across my office right now at 2 crazyass women supervisors. They have gotten the nicest women here fired, they are right all the time. They will not help any of their subordinates get a raise until they make atleast what they think they should make themselves(i know cuz they've said that).I am the lone artist in my company, and yet most of the women "KNOW" what looks best, more than any other person on this planet.

these women here are crazy scary, if you think about their lives outside of work, you have to feel sorry for any man they are with, and i know they are on head meds. or ther really need to be(i come from a family full of crazys on head meds, i know)

these type of women get hired because they look or sound nice to whoever is hiring them?
Jenna, Don't you know of some men or women that are extremely fake out in public? fake laughs, always TOO positive attitude, they don't like any joke that even smells of negativity or off color comments? They don't talk about themselves, just work, and if you do go out with them they have 1 glass of wine they drink only half way to "lossen up a bit", and they always have to leave early.
Old May 22, 2007 | 05:37 PM
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We will see, Al Franken is running for senate here in MN and she is known to have fits of rage.
Old May 22, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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I thought Hillary was President from 1992-2000, remember!



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