The great flood = Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh.

Just one of many examples of christian theft.

Christianity has been used for hundreds of years and is still being used today as nothing but a means of control and power.

 

The reason I do this is because when the Bible was written the people of that time took out what they wanted to, so why can't I?

 

3 words. Flying Spaghetti Monster.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_...tti_Monsterism

Basically for anyone who doesn't know about it, it's based off the arguement of proving/disproving God and since you can't disprove it, he could very well be, a Flying Spaghetti Monster.

 

So they only used what they wanted to? So it is a religion created by man?

 

it's such a taboo in our society to not believe in god.
so you got to atleast make up something i guess, or you'll feel left out.

 

No, it's a religion skewed by man. I believe that the original ideals were pure, but some of it is tainted b.s.

 

I am doing my best to read and make intelligent responses, but I'm also at a full time job and spending a lot of time here. TGIF! Anyhow... 74-76 generations... where did you get that?

Did you read Gen 1:20-30??? It says that God made the sea creatures the birds of the air, the land animals, and then man. It doesn't even mention cockroaches, dinosaurs, or turkeys...Anyhow, I don't necessarily believe in evolution, but don't discount it as God's possible means of creating life either. It seems highly unlikely to me. I do believe in micro-evolution, but not evolution in which entire species change.

Anyhow, you can't confine God to the rules that you're making. He is outside and beyone any laws.

 

And if the bible was written by many men (about 12 I believe), it would appear to be anything buy divine, being tainted and distorted by many opinions and/or beliefs.

 

I don't claim the Bible to be divine.

 

First person to prove God doesnt exist wins my car, and whatever money I make in the next 5 years.

Ive met God, seen him work, hell, he even changed my life and made things alot easier. Come back to me with this question after we both pass, Ill give you a hug.

 

But many christians do.

The bible shows characteristics of the primitive society that created it, and none of the traits one would expect from a divine source. The book is full of mistakes, contradictions, scientific fallacies, moral aberrations, and was clearly designed to control the naive and scientifically ignorant people of 2000 years ago.

 

Please do not jump into a conversation in which you OBVIOUSLY have not been following. Your statement has already been addressed, and more than once I might add.

 

Five times it is written in the bible(in different books, i can look them all up if you'd like). See the saviour, jesus, HAD to be a decendant of King David. (both mary AND joesph are tied to him). It shows from adam to moses to king david to jesus and everywhere inbetween.

day4:
And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

so we here god states he made every single animal that was in the water and the air, and all animals that also flew in the air and water on that day. period. that means whales, birds, etc...get it? no it doesn't mention turkeys, but they are birds that can fly, right? ok day over.

day5
24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

and now you have all land animals, made. the insects that creep, dinosaurs, everything that goes on land and doesn't fly.

there are only 2 days animals are made. and only after things that fly and things that swim, did god make things that walk on land.

study the evolution of horses, it about as good as it gets. we can see them go from little 4 toed animals to single toed/hoof large mammals

 

I would claim the Bible to be divine...With all of the massive manuscript evidence you would think there would be massive discrepancies - just the opposite is true. New Testament manuscripts agree in 99.5% of the text (compared to only 95% for the Iliad). Most of the discrepancies are in spelling and word order. A few words have been changed or added. There are two passages that are disputed but no discrepancy is of any doctrinal significance (i.e., none would alter basic Christian doctrine). Most Bibles include the options as footnotes when there are discrepancies. How could there be such accuracy over a period of 1,400 years of copying? Two reasons: The scribes that did the copying had meticulous methods for checking their copies for errors. 2) The Holy Spirit made sure we would have an accurate copy of God's word so we would not be deceived...

I dont' want to start yet another side debate, but thought I would chime in by stating that I do in fact believe the Bible to be divinely inspired and written.

To be honest, most of it is NOT what someone would want to have a religion. Certainly not what the disciples would have wanted to make up!

 

screw you, Im not reading 10 pages of bickering with big words... I answered your question, sorry I wasnt the first to do so.

oh, and it wasnt even your question, So why do you care?

 

what other manuscripts are you talking about?

Btw, have you heard of the gospel of judas?

 

Well, I don't have time to get into the evolution debate, but just found this, which agrees with 99% of what I think about evolution...

http://www.godandscience.org/evolution/evolution.html

 

ok, so do you know agree now the bible says whales & turkeys were created before cochroaches and worms and even land dinosaurs? even if it is just "one day"?

 

So you believe that ritual sacrifice, murder, rape and slavery are divine, correct?

 

There are a lot of ways one could respond to your statement. First of all, I think it is rediculous to throw Dinosaurs and cockroaches in like that with the living creatures of the land.

Here's the NIV version, which is easier to read. The KJV and other very old versions, none of us are even trained to interpret.

And God said, "Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the expanse of the sky." 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living and moving thing with which the water teems, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth." 23 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.

24 And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals, each according to its kind." And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

Second, I don't believe in evolution. So it wouldn't matter to me what came first. As a matter of fact, I think it is clear in the paragraph above, that God created the animals "according to their kinds". Sounds different from evolution, at least evolution of gradualism.

About the creation account: God was not interested in giving Moses a scientific treatise on the creation of the world. The Bible indicates that God's communication to Moses was centered on the relationship between God and man and the rules by which God wanted man to live. Therefore, the creation account mirrors the content of the rest of the Bible, which centers on mankind and his relationship to God. The question, "Why would God leave out a description of the dinosaurs?" is a bad one to begin with. A more appropriate question should be "What would God want to relate to man about His description of the creation?" The hebrews didn't even have a word for dinosaur, and I don't think dinosaurs should be included in the mention of living land creatures.

Obviously, there were a lot more creatures than just dinosaurs that were left out of the creation account. If God were to have included every creature in the creation account (well over one billion), such inclusion would have completely lost the spiritual significance of the passage (and would be much longer than the Bible itself). The purpose of the Genesis creation account is to give an account of how God created mankind and provided for him. The account, like the entire Bible, centers on God and His miraculous workings for mankind.