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Mac Vs. PC
Originally Posted by vettereddie
Front Row is awesome for in-car iTunes, but I'm running into limitations when trying to find other vehicle software. Most GPS, XM, OBDII and engine management software seems to be Windows only, so I might need to go Boot Camp or Parallels.
well i've got boot camp and parallels running. boot camp on a macbook not too found of it. enjoy using parallels cause if i need to do something in osx it's just a click away versus rebooting to get to the other OS. running parallels on a intel 24" imac it runs so smooth and cool thing it boots window up in less then 15 seconds.
Originally Posted by PakanaHerruus
funny.. i actually use that at work aswell (unix).. its so easy to use.. but didnt think it was worth mentioning..
and BTW: Zune vs iPod Touch...if that dosent say it all.
http://www.apple.com/itunes/
I personally am sick of the mac v. pc debate.
1a. Viruses and trojans are profit making items, not just 'hur hur look I crashed your puter! I'm 1337!' It makes sense that since Windows has the market share, that viruses would be on Windows. If a huge profit were your goal, would you gun for a niche product?
1b. Mac is based on the mach3 kernel. BSD patches kernel holes constantly. Apple doesn't use all those patches because Apple's kernel is a fork of BSD (and closed source, so who knows whats the status of their kernel). There are holes that haven't been patched for years. But because of 1a, that's not a huge priority (though, Apple is very quick to patch items that involve money transactions like iTunes and Quicktime).
2. The BSOD is usually due to 3rd party apps not playing nice with windows.
For reason #2, I recommend macs to 80% of home computer users. Apple does a fantastic job of making 1st party applications that are well thought out and rarely have the end user looking for a different program. Windows has what, Outlook Express and Windows Movie Maker? Both are fifth rate apps. If Apple can't make a great program, they either buy another company that can OR they steal freeware programs' ideas (hey, it's capitalism).
I personally don't use Macs, for the same reason I don't use Windows - I don't like the GUI for either (yeah... I use linux).
This 'debate' is a non starter. A lot of it is based on myths and heresay. I say, use what you're comfortable with. Both apple and windows have a vision for what the desktop should be - some people like it, some people don't. Windows and Apple are fairly equal in capability at this point (and they both run on the same damned hardware! It's just software!) so choose accordingly.
1a. Viruses and trojans are profit making items, not just 'hur hur look I crashed your puter! I'm 1337!' It makes sense that since Windows has the market share, that viruses would be on Windows. If a huge profit were your goal, would you gun for a niche product?
1b. Mac is based on the mach3 kernel. BSD patches kernel holes constantly. Apple doesn't use all those patches because Apple's kernel is a fork of BSD (and closed source, so who knows whats the status of their kernel). There are holes that haven't been patched for years. But because of 1a, that's not a huge priority (though, Apple is very quick to patch items that involve money transactions like iTunes and Quicktime).
2. The BSOD is usually due to 3rd party apps not playing nice with windows.
For reason #2, I recommend macs to 80% of home computer users. Apple does a fantastic job of making 1st party applications that are well thought out and rarely have the end user looking for a different program. Windows has what, Outlook Express and Windows Movie Maker? Both are fifth rate apps. If Apple can't make a great program, they either buy another company that can OR they steal freeware programs' ideas (hey, it's capitalism).
I personally don't use Macs, for the same reason I don't use Windows - I don't like the GUI for either (yeah... I use linux).
This 'debate' is a non starter. A lot of it is based on myths and heresay. I say, use what you're comfortable with. Both apple and windows have a vision for what the desktop should be - some people like it, some people don't. Windows and Apple are fairly equal in capability at this point (and they both run on the same damned hardware! It's just software!) so choose accordingly.
Originally Posted by dmpsk8
Originally Posted by PakanaHerruus
funny.. i actually use that at work aswell (unix).. its so easy to use.. but didnt think it was worth mentioning..
and BTW: Zune vs iPod Touch...if that dosent say it all.
http://www.apple.com/itunes/
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse....gi?u=macs_cant
I always laugh at these sorts of debates. PC vs. Mac, M$ vs. The REST of the WORLD, etc., etc..
From my experience, a Mac is nothing more than a WASTE of money. Their products cost TWICE as much as an equivalent Windows machine (which is STILL more expensive than the same hardware loaded with Linux) and they basically accomplish the same goals as the equivalent Windows machine.
Other than giving its users false implications of their own superiority to non-Mac users, what good is it? Where is that extra expense? ...OS? I don't think so. ...more functionality? Nope. ...it's the pretty plastic, isn't it?
I'll save my money and stick with Linux... more specifically, Suse 10.
What's your machine's latest uptime? My existing Postfix mailserver hasn't needed a shutdown or reboot in over a year. Windows machines wouldn't survive a month, and a Mac... well... what would be the point?
As for my xB, it prefers XP Pro with a custom touchscreen GUI.
I always laugh at these sorts of debates. PC vs. Mac, M$ vs. The REST of the WORLD, etc., etc..
From my experience, a Mac is nothing more than a WASTE of money. Their products cost TWICE as much as an equivalent Windows machine (which is STILL more expensive than the same hardware loaded with Linux) and they basically accomplish the same goals as the equivalent Windows machine.
Other than giving its users false implications of their own superiority to non-Mac users, what good is it? Where is that extra expense? ...OS? I don't think so. ...more functionality? Nope. ...it's the pretty plastic, isn't it?
I'll save my money and stick with Linux... more specifically, Suse 10.
What's your machine's latest uptime? My existing Postfix mailserver hasn't needed a shutdown or reboot in over a year. Windows machines wouldn't survive a month, and a Mac... well... what would be the point?
As for my xB, it prefers XP Pro with a custom touchscreen GUI.
actually i used to leave my pc on for months and months.. i now turn my pc off cause its one of the biggest consumers of electricity in the house.. (overclocking, bigger power supplies)..
i dont use my computer at home as much.. cause i spend all day at work on one.. i need a break..
i dont use my computer at home as much.. cause i spend all day at work on one.. i need a break..
Suse dropped the ball when they tried incorporating rug ... yes, I know they needed to do something with their ximian acquisition, but not *that*. 10 was good, 10.1 made me switch to ubuntu (and I was using suse since 8.3... 10.1 was *unusable*). I know they're fixing YAST for 10.3, but still. You have to understand, I followed Adreas Jaegar's blog, tested alphas and compiled drivers for out of the way hardware, that's how Suse hardcore I *was*.
Sorry for the hijack. :-)
Sorry for the hijack. :-)
where do u people get ur mac info? U think my video production company uses mac becasue of heresay? most of u sound totally clueless: macs are not necessarily twice as much. and the ones that are have more a$$ than u need so ignore em. Keep in mind that when u buy an imac ur getting a built in web cam, mic, HD quality screen, NO TOWER, etc.
And as for the "my PC does what i need" argument
so does a chevy cobalt, but u wanna buy one of those?
While similar materials (plastic
) and parts are used in making the computers the end product is just better. Toyota vs Chevy. And I will say apple needs to work at there office apps. they are good, but not used in the market eneough to be a good idea. If u sit a dell and a imac next to each other, play with them a bit & look at the build quality, the difference is clear. This is prob pointless cause most of u havent ever even used a mac. Isnt anyone catching on as to why mac users are so passionate. I will also say i support those using linux, its a step in the right direction. I dont care if u use a PC, but im irritated when people act like they are somehow superior. The change over has already started...
But hey, I hear Vista is great and Bug Free, If i can just figure out what version i need. I wonder how my grapgics card will handle all those cheesy animations?
And as for the "my PC does what i need" argument
so does a chevy cobalt, but u wanna buy one of those?
While similar materials (plastic
But hey, I hear Vista is great and Bug Free, If i can just figure out what version i need. I wonder how my grapgics card will handle all those cheesy animations?
Originally Posted by dmpsk8
where do u people get ur mac info? U think my video production company uses mac becasue of heresay? most of u sound totally clueless: macs are not necessarily twice as much. and the ones that are have more a$$ than u need so ignore em. Keep in mind that when u buy an imac ur getting a built in web cam, mic, HD quality screen, NO TOWER, etc.
...Justified, if I were recommending a platform for multimedia-intensive work such as video editing to someone who wanted the ability to just purchase a unit and accomplish their objectives out of the box, then I would recommend a Mac setup.
However, PC environments are NOT as poorly designed for these sorts of tasks as is commonly suggested by the Mac world. No, by no means, is a run-of-the-mill PC capable of QUALITY audio/video/studio production editing straight out of the box... but they can be tailored to suit this sort of need, and do it VERY well, I might add.
As for the NO TOWER complaint... Perhaps you should see the size of the unit that runs in my car. Here's a hint: It easily fit behind the LCD in my dash!
Originally Posted by dmpsk8
...I dont care if u use a PC, but im irritated when people act like they are somehow superior. The change over has already started...
But hey, I hear Vista is great and Bug Free, If i can just figure out what version i need. I wonder how my grapgics card will handle all those cheesy animations?
But hey, I hear Vista is great and Bug Free, If i can just figure out what version i need. I wonder how my grapgics card will handle all those cheesy animations?
"It just works." So does a hammer, chisel, and stone tablet, but I don't see too many people out there wielding those and bragging about it.
Vista is another matter. Don't confuse PC users with avid M$ followers, by any means. I openly tell people that I do NOT recommend Vista to anyone, yet I consider myself a PC user.
If you really want to bash on Vista, try putting together a system that is capable of running their "Aero" features that offer the fancy animations. Vista issues a ranking for ALL hardware installed on the machine. If it doesn't offer a high enough approval of 1 piece of hardware, Aero isn't going to install AT ALL, let alone actually function! Often, the hardware that Vista considers suitable to run Aero is expensive, which drives up the cost of the PC towards the high prices previously reserved for Mac products.
If you're sticking with Mac simply as a statement against Microsoft, send me a PM. I'll send you some info that will REALLY make you laugh at good ol' M$!
well at least u dont like vista, but dont even try to tell me what is or isnt good for video work. ive worked on all the paltforms available, extensivly on PC. i do it every day bro, so i gotta make the best choice. u may be able to argue other points back and forth but trust me that no *windows* PC based editing setup is even close to stable eneough to edit on. and i will INFORM u since u dont know, apple's editing software blows everyone else outta the water. its not that im afraid to build a computer to do what i need (ive done tons), but y do that when the end product still wont meet my needs
















