Question For Seattledave
Originally Posted by xdorkx
Originally Posted by Skeorx13
And what about the hundreds of modern scientific facts that contradict the bible's supposed accuracy?
Originally Posted by krustytheclown
If the Atmosphere was created a lot more recently than science believes, if there was a flood that covered the earth, couldn't that make carbon dating innacurate? Dosen't carbon dating measure one element against another element? When that animal/bacteria dies, dosen't it stop absorbing the other element? Its c12 or c14 or something like that right?
Originally Posted by xdorkx
Originally Posted by Skeorx13
And what about the hundreds of modern scientific facts that contradict the bible's supposed accuracy?
If you melted all the world's water frozen in ice, or found anywhere else, the world's sea level would raise a mere 215 feet. So instead of everyone in the entire world dying from the mighty flood, the most that anyone would have to do is run up a hill to escape god's wraith.
the bible specifiy says the waters covered hills, and then mountains. mount ararat is 16,854 ft tall. 215 feet up it, would cover squat.
and there is no way to scientifically come up with such a huge amount of water and then have it vanish. And the only explanation done by christian scientists, is this water vapor canopy theory which would require our surface temperature to be hotter than venus.
Originally Posted by citizen01
Ok... functional appendix or not... Why the heck do men have nipples!? Was god just being funny?
Originally Posted by Skeorx13
Originally Posted by krustytheclown
If the Atmosphere was created a lot more recently than science believes, if there was a flood that covered the earth, couldn't that make carbon dating innacurate? Dosen't carbon dating measure one element against another element? When that animal/bacteria dies, dosen't it stop absorbing the other element? Its c12 or c14 or something like that right?
While carbon dating continues to be considered by many as a viable way of obtaining authoritative dates for a wide range of artifacts and remains, there is much room for error in the process. Even the use of accelerator mass spectrometry to analyze the relative levels of carbon and radioactive carbon has resulted in flawed determinations. It is not uncommon for different laboratories to determine quite different ages for the same artifact! While some of this deviation could possibly be explained by contamination or erred methodology in the labs themselves, it is apparent that the problems with carbon dating are much more complex than that.
Very simply put, too many things are unknown to allow the carbon dating process to be as accurate as many proclaim it to be. Factors as diverse as changes in the earth’s magnetic field and changes in the amount of carbon available to organisms in times past could translate into perceivable differences in the carbon ratios in artifacts and remains from ancient times. Even changes in the atmosphere itself could impact this carbon ratio. We know that changes such as these have occurred over time. They are still occurring today in fact.
The fact that carbon and radioactive carbon are independently formed means that their ratios to one another could have changed substantially from ancient times to today. To base our knowledge on the age of the earth and its various constituents on information gleaned from a technique that depends on carbon and radioactive carbon ratios is very simply unrealistic.
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Originally Posted by Skeorx13
Originally Posted by krustytheclown
If the Atmosphere was created a lot more recently than science believes, if there was a flood that covered the earth, couldn't that make carbon dating innacurate? Dosen't carbon dating measure one element against another element? When that animal/bacteria dies, dosen't it stop absorbing the other element? Its c12 or c14 or something like that right?
BTW, there is a shark that was in captivity that just had an asexual birth. Sharks are vertebrae animals like humans. The female DNA split itself without male DNA and made another of its own species. its called parthenogenesis.
The sharks body needed to reproduce because there were no male sharks in captivity, so in a desperate attempt to save the species, it had its own child. That is evolution and survival at work. Now whose to say that has never happened with a human being?
The sharks body needed to reproduce because there were no male sharks in captivity, so in a desperate attempt to save the species, it had its own child. That is evolution and survival at work. Now whose to say that has never happened with a human being?
I found a much better suited site for this type of discussion...
http://www.iidb.org/vbb/index.php
Or
http://groups.msn.com/AtheistVSGod
I think it is geared better then SL, that was created to be a Car chat site.
Hope you find what you are looking for.
http://www.iidb.org/vbb/index.php
Or
http://groups.msn.com/AtheistVSGod
I think it is geared better then SL, that was created to be a Car chat site.
Hope you find what you are looking for.
Originally Posted by krustytheclown
Thats kinda not the point. This is the Off-topic cafe.
Just trying to be helpful.
This is a way to pass the time with people who share at least one of our commmon interests. I have made many friends and have noted on many occasions that I have no desire to enlighten anybody as I myself know very little.
Seriously... give it up.
Seriously... give it up.
Originally Posted by citizen01
This is a way to pass the time with people who share at least one of our commmon interests.
Anyways... As I mentioned earlier I am not well learned on carbon dating. It seems odd that the large majority of scientists would consider something viable if it was not but it has happened before and carbon dating is, to the best of my knowledge, a relatively new science.
But as krusty mentioned can't we at the very least assume that the earth is 2,000,000 years old based on the distance of stars that are visible to us. That still means that the bible has to be "interpreted" to keep up with today's modern science.
But as krusty mentioned can't we at the very least assume that the earth is 2,000,000 years old based on the distance of stars that are visible to us. That still means that the bible has to be "interpreted" to keep up with today's modern science.
Originally Posted by krustytheclown
We do this because most of us are bored at work (I know I am), and want something to pass the time.
How about a new debate/topic? Any ideas?
How about a new debate/topic? Any ideas?
or
How little would you sell the side of your scion for? You don't know what they are going to put on it. could say anything or be a pic of anything. What would be the lowest amount of cash would you take and still drive it?
Originally Posted by citizen01
Originally Posted by Frosty355
Originally Posted by seattledave
the ego one.





