Oh yeah, I can just see 4 story tall meat eater with 5 ft fangs on a vessel, oh wait, excuse me, 2 4 story tall meat eaters with 5 ft fangs trapped on a vessel with all those animals, and being hearded by a 60 year old man!

 

xdorkx, looking back at this thread I noticed that I have pretty much been an *ss to you and you continue to respond as if I didn't just laugh in your face. I would like to apologize and say thank you. It won't happen again.

Ok... Sorry but this is the first time that I have heard someone try to tell me dinosaurs and man lived together. The first thing that comes to mind is the question (I can't believe I am even playing along) why are there no longer dinosaurs? See if christiananswers.net has an answer for that.

 

You do realize the spacial problems involved in that don't you? A wood boat can not transport 2 of every dinosaur on the planet. It is structurally impossible.

 

it is not scientifically plausible.
There is not enough water on this planet to flood the earth all over, nor enough to even flood a quarter of the world. Coastal regions would flood, but the majority of land masses would not.

This has been stated over and over and beaten to death. It is scientifically impossible for their to have been a flood of that size to cover even a fraction of the earth. The Bible says in Psalms 104, " After the waters covered the mountains , God rebuked them and they fled; the mountains rose, the valleys sank down and God set a boundary so that they will never again cover the earth "

This is supposedly what God himself did. Ok, if he sunk the land and raised mountains blah blah and the water evened out, its still all false. It doesnt matter how big a hole or how large a bucket you make, you still need the quantity of water to fill it. And the planet does not have the sufficient amount of water to cause a global flood that affects people on the mainlands. simple as that.

 

The notion that 2 of every kind of animal fit on a wooden boat built 5000 years ago is absurd at best.

This is the largest ship ever built:



And it couldn't fit 1% of the animals claimed to have fit on the Ark.

 

Well maybe it could fit what was left after the velociraptors ate everybody!

 

Then there is the fundamental issue of inbreeding when starting with a single pair of parents.

 

ok, it was stated that the odds of a proteins forming was 1^113 power. It was then stated that it it debatable that that many atoms even exist in the universe.

Well, there are 7,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 atoms in the average human body. Thats 7 ^23 power. And there are roughly 7,000,000,000 humans on the planet.

It would only seem that (7,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 * 7,000,000,000) is greater than 1^113.

And we are only talking about a counted number of humans, on 1 planet , in all of existance. We arent even talking about the number of atoms that make up a planet, or even the other living creatures on this planet.

So on a universal scale, 1^113 seems like pretty good odds for something to have happened,, and more than once.

 

yeah, it's episode "all that jazz", maybe my 4th or 5th fav(i have the majority of sealab dialogue memorized). "Stimutacs" may be my favorite, or the one about the Church of Alvis.

i'm such a adultswim nerd, the day the dvds sealab2021,athf,harvey, or venturebros i go on my lunch break to pick them up.

 

Not to mention that the tower of bable was constructed 100 years or so after the flood that destroyed all human life. How did one family reproduce so quickly as to be able to build it?

 

Well if there was a flood, im pretty disappointed that Noah decided to drop the kangaroos off only in australia, and polar bears in antartica. would have loved to have them around here.

And where did all of the black people, white people, asian people, and native americans go?

I mean the bible doesnt say anything about them being on the ship, and if everything else died, where the hell did the rest of the population come from?

Thats some pretty fast evolution right there. lol

 

Haha... great points chris. When you actually try to think about it as possible there are so many questions that come up.

xdorkx, see if christiananswers.net tells us why we aren't all the same race if we all came from noah and his wife.

 

You must forgive me for being a infidel, Im sorry I ever questioned your fact. I beg you for your forgiveness my lord. Please, spare me.

Anyways, honest question. What about Pangaea? Isn't that the name of the idea, that all the continents were one major supercontinent? What do you guys think about that?

 

Krusty, how can you just ignore that there was no great flood like your bible says?

Anyways... I don't know much about that theory.

 

Can you explain how this pertains to the discussion?

 

i think it has to do with the whole Earth only being 10,000 years old discussion.

Continental drift has been happeneing for billions of years, and is happening right now. One day North American is gonna smack Japan in the face. But thats gonna be millions of years from now.

 

not at all.

100's of millions - billions of years ago, yes the world was much different and there were different landmasses and all that stuff. I believe in plate techtonics and that land masses slammed into each other.

but here's the problem. The bible has the lineage from adam to jesus at 76 generations. it's written multiple times, and no christian i know, would say it's wrong. the messiah had to be related to king david. The flood happened during noah's lifetime, which was at most 4,000-5,000 years ago ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE, NOT ME, DON'T GET THAT CONFUSED. The land masses and mountain heights are 98% the same now as they were even 100,000 years ago.

ok, the bible talks of all mountains being covered, and as the water drained, noah settled on Mount Ararat, which has an elevation of over 16,000 feet. Now, i don't really care which, but you can choose either mount ararat's elevation of 16,000 feet or everest's 29,000feet ABOVE SEA LEVEL. That means sea level would have to be 3-6 miles higher,

Now you may have saw Waterworld, but that is fanatasy. It's been known for quite some time, that if you took ALL the world's water & ice, and dumped it into our oceans, sealevel would go up a 215 feet.

you are aware how far 215 is from both 16,000 or 29,000.
look at it this way, double the world's ice right now, and you're upto 430 feet.

look, people have been trying to solve this problem, both christian and non-christian. The best anyone came up with was this water vapor canopy theory. Look into that, the physics are not just a little off to make your flood actually real, it's exponentially off.

and no one actually thinks this vapor canopy happened either. No it was one of those "let's come up with a theory that could make the bible's flood real" things.

 

It dosen't really pertain to the discussion. Just want to talk about something else.

 

I want to talk about Aliens! Krusty, you said you don't believe they could exists becuase it does not mention them in the bible but then at a different point in the discussion you conceded that there are many things in existence not in the bible... So which is it?

 

velociraptors ftw!