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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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soooooo

lets get back on topic?
Old Nov 13, 2007 | 09:00 PM
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honda/mugen did with that si is functional.
There is a function for that huge wing, and that's to lure idiotic ricers like you.
Strip out all the rice modifications done to that car and I'm willing to bet you'll knock out $9,000 from its over inflated price.

Honda knows rice sells, so they take advantage of ricers like you.
Dude, you need to get your head examined....


HONDA does nothing to there cars RICE wise. People who midify cars DO. MUGEN designed there take on the si. Were do you get 9,000 dollars of rice from?

Obviously your just in denial that the scion is no were near as on the same platform, and never was intended to be performance oriented like the si. stop defending your scion thats geared towards " kids on a budget " and realize that MUGEN , and HONDA > Scion

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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Whocares05050
Dude, you need to get your head examined....


HONDA does nothing to there cars RICE wise. People who midify cars DO. MUGEN designed there take on the si. Were do you get 9,000 dollars of rice from?

Obviously your just in denial that the scion is no were near as on the same platform,
Who said they were? You're just pathetically throwing things at random to see if anything stick.

and never was intended to be performance oriented like the si.
Exactly, so what's your point?

stop defending your scion thats geared towards " kids on a budget " and realize that MUGEN , and HONDA > Scion
Actually, the Civic SI Mugen is the one being defended by rice lovers. This thread isn't about the tC being over priced. Nice attempt to spin this, but you failed.

Next.
Old Nov 13, 2007 | 09:11 PM
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there must be 10,000+ dollars behind the door panels lol
Old Nov 13, 2007 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by cwayne
Originally Posted by Whocares05050
Dude, you need to get your head examined....


HONDA does nothing to there cars RICE wise. People who midify cars DO. MUGEN designed there take on the si. Were do you get 9,000 dollars of rice from?

Obviously your just in denial that the scion is no were near as on the same platform,
Who said they were? You're just pathetically throwing things at random to see if anything stick.

and never was intended to be performance oriented like the si.
Exactly, so what's your point?

stop defending your scion thats geared towards " kids on a budget " and realize that MUGEN , and HONDA > Scion
Actually, the Civic SI Mugen is the one being defended by rice lovers. This thread isn't about the tC being over priced. Nice attempt to spin this, but you failed.

Next.
Its not being defended by rice lovers, if you dont like the car than why even be on this particular thread. For someone of your age (if whats indicated in your profile accurate) you act like your 16 years old.

All of your arguments are based on opinion, which is fine you have your own opinion but now that youve stated it and made your point, you have no other reason to be on this thread due to the fact what your doing now is just..well, nothing productive.

Of course, i know you wont get off this thread because people like you thrive on arguments on forums. Obviously.

Not one thing on the Si is rice oriented, if you watched a video on the Mugen Si you would see all of it plays a role and all is functional.

Mugen knows what their doing, something you have a hard time believing since your a Toyota fan boy.
Old Nov 13, 2007 | 10:24 PM
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Its not being defended by rice lovers
It's funny how most of the responses are from people who agree that it's a ridiculous car for the price. Only about 3 rice lovers who beat their chest and shed tears are the only ones defending it to death.

Go figure.
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Originally Posted by killerxromances
soooooo

lets get back on topic?
Sure....
Old Nov 13, 2007 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by cwayne
Its not being defended by rice lovers
It's funny how most of the responses are from people who agree that it's a ridiculous car for the price. Only about 3 rice lovers who beat their chest and shed tears are the only ones defending it to death.

Go figure.
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 11:39 PM
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one is supposed to be here tomorrow at a local dealership, im going to check it out and see what it looks like in person.

should be fun [=
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Originally Posted by killerxromances
one is supposed to be here tomorrow at a local dealership, im going to check it out and see what it looks like in person.

should be fun [=
Yeah, ive got one here at mine. Its looks real good in person.
Old Nov 13, 2007 | 11:56 PM
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I like the new Si, but the tC was more in my budget.
Old Nov 14, 2007 | 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Whocares05050
Originally Posted by cwayne
Its not being defended by rice lovers
It's funny how most of the responses are from people who agree that it's a ridiculous car for the price. Only about 3 rice lovers who beat their chest and shed tears are the only ones defending it to death.

Go figure.
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Wow, that hurts so much..
Old Nov 14, 2007 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Whocares05050
Originally Posted by killerxromances
one is supposed to be here tomorrow at a local dealership, im going to check it out and see what it looks like in person.

should be fun [=
Yeah, ive got one here at mine. Its looks real good in person.
I'm hoping to score a test drive, but i doubt it since only 1,000 are going to be made. The guy at the dealership told me that their price is $33,900. So they have a mark up as well, but more reasonable than the $38,000 advertized in the ebay ad.

I have a deposit down for the new STi coming out, but i was thinking about maybe changing that. (its fully refundable) I don't think i'd get the Mugen Si though, its worth what you pay (so long as you arent screwed with the mark up) but the problem is i couldnt see driving something like that daily, i mean you could but something like that i would rather have a secondary car and keep the miles as low as possible.

The tC is a good alternative to several cars alucas, but theres a reason why its an alternative. Especially in stock form.

I heard rumors that we might be getting the type-r for '09 or '10, i wonder if that will happen and if theyd stick to the same concept as integra type r for the usd ones.
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Originally Posted by killerxromances
Originally Posted by Whocares05050
Originally Posted by killerxromances
one is supposed to be here tomorrow at a local dealership, im going to check it out and see what it looks like in person.

should be fun [=
Yeah, ive got one here at mine. Its looks real good in person.
I'm hoping to score a test drive, but i doubt it since only 1,000 are going to be made. The guy at the dealership told me that their price is $33,900. So they have a mark up as well, but more reasonable than the $38,000 advertized in the ebay ad.

I have a deposit down for the new STi coming out, but i was thinking about maybe changing that. (its fully refundable) I don't think i'd get the Mugen Si though, its worth what you pay (so long as you arent screwed with the mark up) but the problem is i couldnt see driving something like that daily, i mean you could but something like that i would rather have a secondary car and keep the miles as low as possible.

The tC is a good alternative to several cars alucas, but theres a reason why its an alternative. Especially in stock form.

I heard rumors that we might be getting the type-r for '09 or '10, i wonder if that will happen and if theyd stick to the same concept as integra type r for the usd ones.
Yes, we are getting one in 2010. This is an article i read a few days ago:

During a recent press drive for the Euro-market Honda Civic Type R (which resulted in this month’s WR cover story), our European Editor, Matt Davis, caught some heavy hints that a variant of the Honda Civic Type R is indeed headed Stateside in 2010.

Though the assistant chief engineer from Tochigi was loath to talk specifics, the plan is to offer a package in keeping with the Japanese-market Honda Civic Type R (read: four-door sedan), and include a horsepower boost and a limited-slip differential.

The prototype car shown, modeled on Honda’s JDM/ASEAN market Civic sedan, incorporates a 2.0-liter iVTEC engine giving nearly 220 horsepower,
along with the usual suspension and appearance modifications. Given the close proximity of the standard Japanese Civic sedan to its North American counterpart, it would likely be easier to federalize such a model than attempt to import the Euro-market Honda Civic Type R’s angular hatchback, whose bodystyle wasn’t developed with either the U.S. or Canada in mind.
This strikes us as a wise move, because as wonderful as the current Honda Civic Si is here in the States, it’s outgunned by high-horsepower entries like the Mazdaspeed3 and Subaru WRX,
both of which will be likely targets for this more expensive CTR.





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Originally Posted by Whocares05050
Originally Posted by killerxromances
Originally Posted by Whocares05050
Originally Posted by killerxromances
one is supposed to be here tomorrow at a local dealership, im going to check it out and see what it looks like in person.

should be fun [=
Yeah, ive got one here at mine. Its looks real good in person.
I'm hoping to score a test drive, but i doubt it since only 1,000 are going to be made. The guy at the dealership told me that their price is $33,900. So they have a mark up as well, but more reasonable than the $38,000 advertized in the ebay ad.

I have a deposit down for the new STi coming out, but i was thinking about maybe changing that. (its fully refundable) I don't think i'd get the Mugen Si though, its worth what you pay (so long as you arent screwed with the mark up) but the problem is i couldnt see driving something like that daily, i mean you could but something like that i would rather have a secondary car and keep the miles as low as possible.

The tC is a good alternative to several cars alucas, but theres a reason why its an alternative. Especially in stock form.

I heard rumors that we might be getting the type-r for '09 or '10, i wonder if that will happen and if theyd stick to the same concept as integra type r for the usd ones.
Yes, we are getting one in 2010. This is an article i read a few days ago:

During a recent press drive for the Euro-market Honda Civic Type R (which resulted in this month’s WR cover story), our European Editor, Matt Davis, caught some heavy hints that a variant of the Honda Civic Type R is indeed headed Stateside in 2010.

Though the assistant chief engineer from Tochigi was loath to talk specifics, the plan is to offer a package in keeping with the Japanese-market Honda Civic Type R (read: four-door sedan), and include a horsepower boost and a limited-slip differential.

The prototype car shown, modeled on Honda’s JDM/ASEAN market Civic sedan, incorporates a 2.0-liter iVTEC engine giving nearly 220 horsepower,
along with the usual suspension and appearance modifications. Given the close proximity of the standard Japanese Civic sedan to its North American counterpart, it would likely be easier to federalize such a model than attempt to import the Euro-market Honda Civic Type R’s angular hatchback, whose bodystyle wasn’t developed with either the U.S. or Canada in mind.
This strikes us as a wise move, because as wonderful as the current Honda Civic Si is here in the States, it’s outgunned by high-horsepower entries like the Mazdaspeed3 and Subaru WRX,
both of which will be likely targets for this more expensive CTR.





Nice, i might hold off on a new car and just continue to drive the mini until this comes out. THe handling of the type r should surpass the mazda3, the wrx would be questionable. I know the current wrx's in stock form are usually killed by others in autocross events, mostly due to driving error's but also limitations. Based on what ive seen atleast.

The Mugen Si is more or less a teaser than for what is to come from honda. [=

Didn't know it was finalized, i cant wait! I've always adored the type-r class.
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Originally Posted by davedavetC
Originally Posted by Whocares05050
^ Ouch, lol. But he deserved it.

ANYWAYS...

The Mugen si is a good buy @ 30k, not a penny more. To whomever said the sedan weighs more than the coupe is wrong. the coupe is 60 LBS less.

Well, IF we could get this over here, all you EVO fanboys would crap yourself. This IS priced at 38k, and has 240 hp ALL MOTOR, and is lighter. Honda Civic Type- RR:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uJg_EZ6kcdA

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XnqZlhce_fk

http://www.egmcartech.com/2007/09/18...in-10-minutes/
I WOULD DRIVE THAT ANY DAY OF THE WEEK!
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killerxromances - Yeah, its finalized, and also will come with a 220 HP Motor. K20 still, but modified head and stroke i believe. The suspension WILL be amazing. Save your $$$$$$$$

To bad we cant get the RR here with the 240 motor
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Originally Posted by Whocares05050
killerxromances - Yeah, its finalized, and also will come with a 220 HP Motor. K20 still, but modified head and stroke i believe. The suspension WILL be amazing. Save your $$$$$$$$

To bad we cant get the RR here with the 240 motor
Truth. The RR is incredible, but imo so is the type-r. The k20 is a great motor, i used to own a 231whp n/a gsr. Had a b18 in it though. All the k20 needs is k-pro/itbs/i/h/e/clutch and a few other minor things and its good to go for track.

I assume prices for the type r will range in the upper 20's for msrp, probably sell around 30-33k.
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They actually said it would sell for around 27 to compete with the wrx, ms3, likes....

Yeah, i know, cheaper than the mugen.
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They actually said it would sell for around 27 to compete with the wrx, ms3, likes....

Yeah, i know, cheaper than the mugen.
Well the Mugen is going to be more..1. First Mugen to hit the u.s shores. 2. 1,000 made.

So it should be more, from a sales stand point. Might not be on type-r level, but its as close as we will get for now.



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