They could have, if he wasn't so busy throwing a tantrum.

That doesn't mean it should be a chaotic free for all tho. The kid cut in line, grabbed the mic from someone else, and was intentially a douche in order to get an incident on camera. The UP were ill equipped, and ill trained to make a clean take down and get this guy hog tied quickly, so the fat little broad zapped the crap out of him.

It didn't have to happen, but then again, he didn't have to be a douche, and the UP could have been much better trained.

Neither do I, but I do check out Colleghumor.com on a regular.

 

i don't know if anyone posted this yet but i don't feel like reading it all. he didn't get tasered. a taser is a device with a pneumatic charge that shoots two barbed darts at the assailant from a distance. these darts are connected by wires to the system that applies the voltage. this man was hit with a stun gun. a device with the same purpose but cannot be used from a distance.

it is a common misconception and i for one am sick of it being used the wrong way.

 

Well, if you want to be that persnickity, Taser is a registered trademark, and the name of a product, not a verb.

 

Nobody cares about what the kid said; it was how he tried to get his message across that got him in trouble, and thus, what we're discussing. And we don't care if Kerry's a "piece of liberal garbage" or care about OJ Simpson at all. We're talking about some kid who got tasered at a Kerry function, and if the force used was justified. Not what he said. Not why he said it. Not what color he is. But how he tried to get his message across, and the police response to it.

There shouldn't be a discussion of what is and isn't assaulting a peacekeeper. You hit them, regardless of how you hit them, and especially if it's while you're resisting arrest; it's assault. If you're about to be arrested, there's no reason to be flailing your arms around, period.

And no, they apparently couldn't escort him out without him being stung, as the video clearly shows. Sure, they could have gotten rough with him, but then I'm sure we'd be talking about police brutality instead.

He was warned to leave. He was warned that he was going to be arrested. He was warned that he was going to be tased. He belligerently ignored all of those warnings... and sure enough, he left in cuffs after getting tasered.

 

The only clear things the video shows is that politicians won't answer questions directly, liberally minded college kids don't know everything, and the police always resort to force.

And you guys can type until your fingers fall off, but see that big, burly black officer? By himself, he should have been able to restrain that kid and walk him out WITHOUT EVER needing cuffs. 5 of them? Should have had him outside in under 20 seconds, regardless of how much he tried to flail. That video was just a plethora of idiots. One asking questions, one not answering them, and about five or six being ineffectual.

 

No argument here.

you have obviously never watched an episode of cops. Especially one where an 80 pound toothless female needs four or five big burly officers to keep her under control. The issue isn't restraining the perp, it's restraining the perp without hurting them or getting hurt in the process, which is extremely difficult. Sure, the big cop could have just put him in a head lock, knocked him the eff out, or jacked him up in a full nelson, but that would have been more likely to draw brutality charges than zapping his nuts off.

 

another common misconception is that Taser type devices can only be used by releasing the prongs. Tasers can also be held to a person and used in the same manner as a stun gun.

 

^^meh.... i know a 5'-0" blond woman that worked in Colorado State Patrol and she could easily put down a 6'+ guy using one hand. this kid was kinda gangly and should have been easier to subdue than what the UP's made it seem. as i said before, this was just handled poorly. there was a shorter woman there, and she could have gotten away with it. people don't expect short women to be able to whup their butts easily, so the guy woulda just been humiliated. now, yes....if the big burly black guy did it....it would look excessive. why, i dunno, but it's how we seem to think.

 

The mistake you're making there is assuming that the UP had the same training as the Colorado State Patrol. Remember when I said UPs are just glorified security guards with little to no training? Like the knuckleheads they have working airport security? Well there ya go.

 

This kid had it coming. Free speech means you can share you opinion which he did. It doesnt mean you can talk forever. He had his chance and when the time was up they shut off the mic. He refused to leave. Struggled with guards and made a big deal about something that wasnt. He should have just left when his time was up.

 

Actually he was offering to answer the kids question if the kid would shut up and for long enough for him to do it. He threw a temper tantrum like a 2 yr old. He isnt a child so spanking wont really do anything on an adult. He had it coming and deserved it. Watch it yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCBcOQkUNjI

You ever watch the news or even Cops? You see it all the time where some person just goes off and overpowers much larger people. Adrenaline is very powerful.

 

actually i was reinforcing your point. i'm pretty sure they don't have the training. the fact that they need it is my point.

 

Actually, on the backs of 4 elephants that stand on the back of a turtle that swims through space.

*Discworld* WHee!

 

Actually most, if not all, University Police Officers are trained and licensed as Peace Officers. There is a good amount of training involved, but most of it is reliant on the On the Job portion of training. If you get stuck with a lazy ******* to train you during OJT, you are going to develop poor habits. On top of that, most people listed as Peace Officers, whether they be UP, CO's or any of the other positions, are often taught to be beyond careful when physically resisting someone. Unions and Employers are terrified of lawsuits. Especially when its involving something that will warrant this much media attention.

And as far as the airport security, I don't know how it is anywhere else, but in the Albany airport, they have the TSA's which are overseen by the Sheriff's Department. The "security guards" are full on officers.