^^^Good point

 

Without rehashing all the debate about capital punishment (mostly because I'm tired of it) I'm just currious why "Tookie" got all of this national attention. There are prisoners put to death all the time, yet he practically got celebrity status. I wonder why. There wasn't any real debate as to his guilt, he hadn't shown any remorse, he wasn't a model prisoner....and yet the media and a few "stars" rallied to save him. I just don't get it. Why him, and not any of the other people sentenced to death? There are lots of people on death row who claim to be innocent, or who have changed and are now positive, productive people. Why did Tookie get all of the attention?

 

Chill, if you refuse to accept what happens I will call that ignorance. I don't live in fear. I live in the real world. People are bad. Some people have forfeited the right to live among law abiding people. I have examined my situation and have come to this conclusion, I will use a gun if it comes down to it, as a last resort. If any other criminal tries to harm my family or take my stuff, I will use it. Yes, only God can judge, I never said I could. But I will be ready to carry out God's judgement if He gives me the nod.
Yes, when it is your time, nothing can stop your departure from this earth. But, if you are not ready to defend what is near and dear to you, your time will be here quicker.

With your criminal loving attitude, you might want to reexamine your situation and find you a nice plot of land. You will need it sooner rather than later, I am afraid.

 

^^Well said!^^ I agree 100%.
If you want to know how I feel about using a gun to defend my family, break into my house. You'll find out real fast.

 

It's only pre-meditated if you reload......

 

LOL!!!

 

Do you two know each other??

 

Our mothers hung out their wash under the same sun.

No, but it should scare matt that we think so much alike........

 

Nope...we've never met. But I have read enough of his posts to know that he and I share similar views on many issues.

 

Except he is smarter than I am....Much more self control.

 

I doubt it....but thanks.

 

Too much time and taxpayer money has been wasted on that waste of flesh.

No too much band width has been wasted, too!

 

Point out to me, in anyone of my statements where I said I loved criminal activity or behavior. Please don't put words in my mouth, I didn't do that to you. That's all I really need to say. You have your opinion, I have mine....so be it. But don't try to force your opinions on someone else as if it is truth. You know nothing about me besides what you have read in very few statements. The same way you judge me is the same way you will too be judge. I'm quite sure you will not be given the nod to cast judgement when you can't even recognize your own issues.

 

I thought this was a forum for Scion and other auto enthusists, not a soapbox for gays, anti-death penality nuts, Bush bashers, and other hate mongering left wing psycos and anti-American misfits. I think some of ya'll would feel more at home at:
http://moveon.org/ ,
http://www.aclu.org/, or
http://www.queernationusa.org/index.html

Flame away yankers!

 

at the same time this is the offtopic-cafe, where anyone can talk about anything not related to the cars.

 

While this is the "off-topic cafe" I tend to be in alignment with the other old codger here - Smokey.
I don't give a rat's a$$ if you're ___, love/hate Bush or think "tookie" was rehabilitated.

If you're ___ - fine. Friends of mine are, but I don't need to know all about it.

I'm Republican, but not too thrilled with GWB for things like immigration.

Tookie - glad he's worm food now. Four people - at least four people - are dead now because of him. They got no mercy. Eff 'em.

Scott

 

I have not judged you. I have taken your statements and formed an opinion of you. My opinion is that you want to keep all criminals alive no matter how many innocent people they have killed. If I mis-read you, then I apologize.
I haven't tried force my opinion on anyone. I have only stated what has happened to me and why feel the way I feel. I have said that I hope you never have to face death from someone with no reguard to your life.

I know what my issues are. My biggest issue is that I don't approve of people killing others for no reason other than they want drug money. You seem fine by that. I just can't see your reasoning.

 

You have totally mis-read me. I never stated if I felt he did the crime and deserved the punishment, or the opposite. I don't understand where your opinion of me wanting to keep all criminals alive no matter how many innocent people they have killed even came from. Maybe if you had taken the time to ask me how I felt about people killing others for no reason, you would have formulated an accurate opinion about me based on my response. Never once did I say I agreed with anything Tookie was accused of doing. That's not my place to make the decision whether he did or not. The only comment I made to you is that it seemed strange to me that you said you felt safer now that he's dead, when there are probably worse people living much closer to you. That's it, I never went into if he killed the people or not, or any of the other things you have accused me of being or believing.

I'm totally fine with someone having different viewpoints than I do, and I have enough respect for people to listen to their side, and express mine. I have nothing against you, trust me, the same way you formed an opinion of me, I could do for you based on your statements. They were not all positive statements I might add. But even in that I still respect you as a person and I respect your opinions when they are grounded and founded on something more than a whim. All I'm saying is that before your quick to make a decision about me on something I haven't even said myself. Take the time to ask me first and see where I stand on the issuse. Then from there form your opinion of me.

P.S. I accept your apology.

 

If I have, then again, let me apologize....<smacks head>

I am guilty of many things and obviously I have mis-read.
I love you as much as a straight man can, brother to brother, wheather we agree or not.

 

Thanks for being a man about the situation. I have nothing but respect for you.