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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Ro_Ja
Does anyone know anything about lens hoods and cropped sensor cameras? Are they even worth it for a camera such as an XTi? I was looking for info on the 10-22mm and I read the following and it got me thinking...

If you're using this lens on a 1.6x-crop-factor camera the EW-83E does not provide adequate protection against flare.
I use lens hoods for my lenses except my 18 55 and 50 1.8.
It helps with my standard zoom lens 28 135 and 70 300 but the hoods for those are deep.

if the hood is petal style, Id get one. if it's not and really shallow, now sure how much it would help.
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Originally Posted by miketf1
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there is nothing on the 50 1.8 that can come loose or shift on the mount.

the mount is plastic however so if you dont install the lens straight and turn it, the cameras metal mount will cut into the 50 1.8 plastic mount and get stuck.


this however is a silly mistake, anyone that does this, doesnt know how to use the camera properly. Also dangerous is that the shavings can drop inside and unto the sensor.
which is why i just forked over for the f/1.4 i know someone is going to come roll around saying that the f/1.8 does the job but come on. 1.4 is bigger than 1.8 and size matters
you cant go wrong with the 1.4, you get the extra light, a better auto focus, and quieter more robust lens. I see a lot of pros use the 1.4. Very few will consider the L version a worthwhile upgrade compared to the 1.4. I can only see getting the L version if you use 50mm as a primary lens and need the extra blades for the smoother bokeh highlights. aside from that dof below 1.4 is so shallow I dont know if it'd add much.

here's a review, not sure if youve read it yet
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/R...ns-Review.aspx


for me I do regret getting the 1.8 and shouldve opted for the 1.4, but theres nothing I can do about it now.
Old Mar 25, 2009 | 07:13 PM
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thanks for the opinion guys :D
Old Mar 25, 2009 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RnB180
Originally Posted by Ro_Ja
Does anyone know anything about lens hoods and cropped sensor cameras? Are they even worth it for a camera such as an XTi? I was looking for info on the 10-22mm and I read the following and it got me thinking...

If you're using this lens on a 1.6x-crop-factor camera the EW-83E does not provide adequate protection against flare.
I use lens hoods for my lenses except my 18 55 and 50 1.8.
It helps with my standard zoom lens 28 135 and 70 300 but the hoods for those are deep.

if the hood is petal style, Id get one. if it's not and really shallow, now sure how much it would help.

You know what i found odd this is the hood on my 17-55mm


And Hood For my 17-40mm Witch is the same for the 16-35mm and the 10-22mm
Old Mar 25, 2009 | 07:17 PM
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yea a lot of people complain about the ugly 17 40 hood. however the 17 40 was designed with full frame users in mind, and ef-s lenses dont have to worry about the hood entering the frame as much with the 1.6 crop so they can design a deeper hood.
Old Mar 25, 2009 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by RnB180
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I read this on amazon

"I put this brand new Canon 50mm lens on my Canon XSI body and took some really good portrait shots. Unfortunately, when I wanted to switch back to my zoom lens, I found out that the lens was stuck on the XSI body. It turned half way and it would not turn further. I was lucky that camera and lens are still under warranty and Canon was able to help. I was told by Canon that something inside the lens must have come loose or shifted. This should really not happen. In over 20 years of using Canon cameras, this was a scary first... Please inspect your lens carefully and if the locking mechanism looks different from your current lens, or if it does not attach very smoothly right away, return it and do not use it.
I hope this will help others in the future. "

just nervous i guess hehe
there is nothing on the 50 1.8 that can come loose or shift on the mount.

the mount is plastic however so if you dont install the lens straight and turn it, the cameras metal mount will cut into the 50 1.8 plastic mount and get stuck.


this however is a silly mistake, anyone that does this, doesnt know how to use the camera properly. Also dangerous is that the shavings can drop inside and unto the sensor.
really? which is why i've seen only the mount of the 50 1.8 stuck on a camera?

yes, mounts can come loose; however, it is not very common and under certain circumstances, it will happen..
I not sure what you mean, the 50 1.8 mount is a solid piece of plastic, I dont see what can become loose with a single solid piece of molded plastic. are your referring to the tiny screw holding the contacts? Im more prone to believe the mount was installed crooked and the plastic cut.
nope...it was the plastic mount that came apart
Old Mar 25, 2009 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DonNguyen
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Originally Posted by O5_TRD_tC
I read this on amazon

"I put this brand new Canon 50mm lens on my Canon XSI body and took some really good portrait shots. Unfortunately, when I wanted to switch back to my zoom lens, I found out that the lens was stuck on the XSI body. It turned half way and it would not turn further. I was lucky that camera and lens are still under warranty and Canon was able to help. I was told by Canon that something inside the lens must have come loose or shifted. This should really not happen. In over 20 years of using Canon cameras, this was a scary first... Please inspect your lens carefully and if the locking mechanism looks different from your current lens, or if it does not attach very smoothly right away, return it and do not use it.
I hope this will help others in the future. "

just nervous i guess hehe
there is nothing on the 50 1.8 that can come loose or shift on the mount.

the mount is plastic however so if you dont install the lens straight and turn it, the cameras metal mount will cut into the 50 1.8 plastic mount and get stuck.


this however is a silly mistake, anyone that does this, doesnt know how to use the camera properly. Also dangerous is that the shavings can drop inside and unto the sensor.
really? which is why i've seen only the mount of the 50 1.8 stuck on a camera?

yes, mounts can come loose; however, it is not very common and under certain circumstances, it will happen..
I not sure what you mean, the 50 1.8 mount is a solid piece of plastic, I dont see what can become loose with a single solid piece of molded plastic. are your referring to the tiny screw holding the contacts? Im more prone to believe the mount was installed crooked and the plastic cut.
nope...it was the plastic mount that came apart
????
well than I guess its good he picked up the 1.4
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Originally Posted by kiss_kiss_kill
I think you're on crack, Donito! They all look fine to me.

If we post pics too big, it's going to jack the tables of the forum.
x2 I hate having to scroll to fully see a pic. A page full of 1024w images would be a _____.

/$.02
Old Mar 25, 2009 | 07:42 PM
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????
well than I guess its good he picked up the 1.4
i'm not saying the 1.8 isn't a good lens...its a very good lens, but you just have to take care of it like you would any lens.

and i've seen metal mounts come apart as well
Old Mar 25, 2009 | 07:49 PM
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I saw a metal mount come apart when I went to the local camera store. The girl was TICKED OFF & it was an expensive lens, too, but I can't remember which one. After they got it off, she just gave them the lens & said she didn't want it.

I was like WHAAAA? Chick must've been made of money or something.
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i was at camera store yesterday and i was looking at the nikkor 55-200mm VR for my d40. i didnt have my camera with me so i asked the guy if i could try it and put it on one of the D40s on display. he was like sure. i guess he was new or didnt know how to put a lens on. he was pressing and rotating the lens against the camera all i could hear was the metal grinding on the camera. i had to tell him to match the dot and the line on the camera. and to think someone is gonna buy that lens and camera.
Old Mar 25, 2009 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MysTiKchRis
Originally Posted by RnB180
Originally Posted by Ro_Ja
Does anyone know anything about lens hoods and cropped sensor cameras? Are they even worth it for a camera such as an XTi? I was looking for info on the 10-22mm and I read the following and it got me thinking...

If you're using this lens on a 1.6x-crop-factor camera the EW-83E does not provide adequate protection against flare.
I use lens hoods for my lenses except my 18 55 and 50 1.8.
It helps with my standard zoom lens 28 135 and 70 300 but the hoods for those are deep.

if the hood is petal style, Id get one. if it's not and really shallow, now sure how much it would help.

You know what i found odd this is the hood on my 17-55mm


And Hood For my 17-40mm Witch is the same for the 16-35mm and the 10-22mm

I can see the hoods being like that since the 17-55 is for a crop body only, so 17*1.6 is definitely longer than the 17 that could possibly go on a FF. I will say the hood on the 17-55IS works very well to reduce flair and I notice it even increases contrast a smidge.
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nice guys im on the market for lenses now.. looking at the 24-70mm L, those are the lenses i had in mind too
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Originally Posted by o8tC
i was at camera store yesterday and i was looking at the nikkor 55-200mm VR for my d40. i didnt have my camera with me so i asked the guy if i could try it and put it on one of the D40s on display. he was like sure. i guess he was new or didnt know how to put a lens on. he was pressing and rotating the lens against the camera all i could hear was the metal grinding on the camera. i had to tell him to match the dot and the line on the camera. and to think someone is gonna buy that lens and camera.
Spend the extra money and get the 70-300mm. Trust me.
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i got a new toy that will be arriving
canon st e2

I know pocket wizards are the cats meow in the industry, but I cant afford them right now. Seems like a lot of people are happy with the st e2 and I dont plan on shooting with flash farther than 10 feet from the subject during the day anyhow.

main use will be for directional fill during day shots. Ill also be mounting the flash on a mono pod during indoor events for flash on a stick haha. yes finally freedom front front mounted flash.
Not sure if I should still pick up a bracket for times when I dont want to carry flash in one hand and the camera in the other.

next stop 580 ex ii
I have a couple of friends that want to sell their 430 ex, I might pick a couple up for 2 flash day shoots.
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dang.. i need to start saving for an external flash and transmitter.. mount the sucker on a tripod and walk around with it at indoor/night car shows..
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Originally Posted by CarbonXe
Originally Posted by o8tC
i was at camera store yesterday and i was looking at the nikkor 55-200mm VR for my d40. i didnt have my camera with me so i asked the guy if i could try it and put it on one of the D40s on display. he was like sure. i guess he was new or didnt know how to put a lens on. he was pressing and rotating the lens against the camera all i could hear was the metal grinding on the camera. i had to tell him to match the dot and the line on the camera. and to think someone is gonna buy that lens and camera.
Spend the extra money and get the 70-300mm. Trust me.
i have a tamron 70-300mm :D look at my sig
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Originally Posted by miketf1
dang.. i need to start saving for an external flash and transmitter.. mount the sucker on a tripod and walk around with it at indoor/night car shows..
thats what I plan on doing hahah mono pod with flash attached in one hand and camera in the other. Hopefully for those times Ill have a friend with me to hold the flash, if not i might need a bracket.

on the plus side, st e2 has full ettl support and works flawlessly indoors. down side... it only supports two flashes at once. but I figure by the time I require 3 flashes key fill and back. I wont me relying on flash guns, ill be using radio transmitters, strobes by then and wont be using them for events but only in studios and serious location shoots, where it allows the time for set up.



st e2 should keep me happy for the portable light id need it for. Finally off the camera and some extra possibilities with light placement. a second flash would be enough for on location daytime shoots using the sun as backlight. If there are still pro's using st e2 for work, than it should be good enough for now.
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hmm.. the monopod/two hand deal sounds quite clumsy.. i was thinking a monopod for the camera plus a tripod for the flash.. but that might be clumsy as well at shows..

i wonder if there is such thing as a monopod with a horizontal attachment for a remote flash?
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I couldn't find the post pages ago when someone was talking about the 50mm lens. My question is, is a 50mm 1.8 a good all around lens to start off w/? It was one of the ones that I was looking into getting, and have heard that they are fairly inexpensive but great lens' to have.

Should be picking up my 40d soon, so should see me post on this thread instead of just reading it religiously.

Thank-you.



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