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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 05:06 AM
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a new one from a little tour i was on the other day
Old Apr 10, 2009 | 06:13 AM
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 03:17 PM
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 06:49 PM
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speaking of monitor calibration prior in the thread has me wondering now.

heres a question to anyone here

In regards to calibration what do you use to calibrate the monitor and gamma color space settings

2.2 65k is what im set at

for my mac pro

I do it manually because the colorimeters tend to shift color space on my mac pro and add too much red.

Ive found if I maually calibrate with the apples built in calibrator, It's more accurately represented on my screen.

any thoughts?
Old Apr 10, 2009 | 08:33 PM
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So are you saying you're using the apple system calibration? Because I use 3rd party calibrators with readers such a Spyder and Huey
Old Apr 10, 2009 | 09:12 PM
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i'm currently using a Huey but looking at the Spyder and others
Old Apr 10, 2009 | 09:13 PM
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I believe Huey and Spyder and the 2 leading companies that produce calibration tools... I use Spyder
Old Apr 10, 2009 | 09:19 PM
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wow anyone want to lend me one of the calibrators? loll
Old Apr 10, 2009 | 09:31 PM
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I think it's a good investment to have it.. cause calibrating it the first time is gonna be the biggest difference.. but over time, monitors degrade and it's a good idea to keep recalibrating.. i think it's worth the investment if you are into photography and publish photos (web & print).. you can buy older version and they work just as well.. look into the spyder2...
Old Apr 10, 2009 | 09:39 PM
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i calibrate about once a week or two....

you can pick up a huey for about 90 bucks or a huey pro i think for 130

spyder is a little bit more
Old Apr 10, 2009 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by itzjere
So are you saying you're using the apple system calibration? Because I use 3rd party calibrators with readers such a Spyder and Huey

I use the apple OS calibration
I also have the spyder 3 pro.

for my macbook pro the apple OS caibration gives me pretty much the same results as the spyder 3 pro colorimeter. EXCEPT and this is a big one, the colorimeter color shifts and adds heavy red to the blues. The mac OS calibrator doesn't do this.

in short calibrating with the built in apple calibrator is more accurate colorwise than the external colorimeter. However this is on my laptop. So Im sure on an external monitor a seperate display with wide gamut the spyder 3 would be the better choice.

but since I do all my processing on my macbook pro out everywhere, the external colorimeter is a hindrance during processing more than anything.

MAC os gets blues right on my macbook pro the colorimeter, does not.
I verified this by running calibration on all the profiles srgb, wide gamut, including generic ones and all of them exhibit color shift with the colorimeter in blues, while the mac os does not. the red push on blues can be found in my raw files before processing, which drove me nuts.

all the other colors look pretty much the same or negligiable differences between the built in calibrator and external colorimeter.
Old Apr 10, 2009 | 09:57 PM
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I see what you mean now. thanks for clearing that up.

I have my gamma color space set to the default when it first initializes the calibration. I'm not sure if that helps you much. That's weird that it does too much red thou. I don't have this issue. Sorry, i know it's not much help
Old Apr 10, 2009 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by itzjere
I see what you mean now. thanks for clearing that up.

I have my gamma color space set to the default when it first initializes the calibration. I'm not sure if that helps you much. That's weird that it does too much red thou. I don't have this issue. Sorry, i know it's not much help
youre probably using an external display. Ive heard colorimeters will have issues with laptop screens.

Until I can afford a decent wide gamut display, I'll probably stick with the OS calibration.
Old Apr 10, 2009 | 10:02 PM
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oh yes, you're right.. i am using external.. i hardly edit anything on my laptop since it's 4 years old and doesn't have the processing power I need.
Old Apr 10, 2009 | 10:09 PM
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laptops are probably the worst things you can edit on, since it all depends on your angle of view.

I also wouldn't trust your eyes because everyone sees things differently
Old Apr 10, 2009 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DonNguyen
laptops are probably the worst things you can edit on, since it all depends on your angle of view.

I also wouldn't trust your eyes because everyone sees things differently
wanna buy me a 30" external wide gamut display?

if not, Ill stick with my macbook pro, besides I have to use the laptop when I travel or out and about.

they arent the worst, Ive done, prints and use lab color callibrated screens at workstations,
my macbook is fine. I am aware they arent the best, but they're good enough for prints and web and what I use it for.

you can get a better screen that displays more colors than the human eye can differentiate or printers can print. But thats not high on my priorities right now. Finding a printer to print accurately is more important that what I work with on my screen. My mac screen is already accurate enough.

Of course I would like a better screen, Id also like L lenses too but I cant afford such things, so I work with what I got.

No complaints from people when I show them photos taken with my 18-55 kit lens. I actually get a lot of compliments. I wouldnt say owning an L or wide gamut large display is pointless, I just cant afford it right now.

cheers
Old Apr 10, 2009 | 10:38 PM
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i'm just saying...

also, using those built in calibrators that require u to adjust it according to ur eye are just your perception of what is correct....
Old Apr 11, 2009 | 12:14 AM
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 01:13 AM
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here's two of an Air Force version of Swat Team practicing.
Old Apr 11, 2009 | 01:15 AM
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