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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 11:45 PM
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hey guys i havent driven up to canada in a few yrs but plan to go this weekend. just wondering is a passport required now to cross the border? if not, what forms of ID can we use?
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 11:52 PM
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I believe a passport is required if you want to get back in to the US I'm no expert though.
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 11:54 PM
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Yes, a passport is required. They just changed the law recentlly. Unfortunatlly there's no way of getting one by this weekend either. If you put a rush on it ,It'll cost you $170+ and it still takes two weeks to get.
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 11:55 PM
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No passport needed. It's only needed if you're flying into the country.

All you need is your driver's license. I know for a fact, we've been there recently.

Also, if you're bringing a child... be sure to have their birth certificate.
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jenna
No passport needed. It's only needed if you're flying into the country.


thats what i thought. thanks for clarifying.
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 1scion2c
Yes, a passport is required. They just changed the law recentlly. Unfortunatlly there's no way of getting one by this weekend either. If you put a rush on it ,It'll cost you $170+ and it still takes two weeks to get.
No, that's only if you travel by air. The land passport requirements won't be in place for a few years yet, maybe. There was a news tidbit about us being approved for a new enhanced driver's license so we may pass through the boarder without inevitably needing a passport in the future.
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 12:06 AM
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That could be. I flew on works dime, they payed for the passport and everything. I know the law changed in the last two or three months. How long ago did you drive across?
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 12:09 AM
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http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/al...nts_needed.xml

U.S. Citizens: The Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative will soon require all travelers to and from the Americas, the Caribbean, and Bermuda to have a passport or other accepted form of documentation to enter or reenter the United States. The program will be rolled out in phases. The proposed timeline is as follows:

* As of January 23, 2007, ALL persons*, including U.S. citizens, traveling by air between the United States and Canada, Mexico, Central and South America, the Caribbean, and Bermuda will be required to present a valid passport, Air NEXUS card, or U.S. Coast Guard Merchant Mariner Document.

* As early as January 1, 2008, ALL persons*, including U.S. citizens, traveling between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico, Central and South America, the Caribbean, and Bermuda by land or sea (including ferries), may be required to present a valid passport or other documents as determined by the Department of Homeland Security. While recent legislative changes permit a later deadline, the Departments of State and Homeland Security are working to meet all requirements as soon as possible. Ample advance notice will be provided to enable the public to obtain passports or passport cards for land/sea entries.
Just to easy and uncertainties you may have. It's also been tested out with us as it was only a few months ago we went up there with just our licenses. They don't usually even ask for the kid's birth certificates.

Oh, and in case you or your occupants are not citizens or have felonies... you better look further on that website I linked for further information.
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 12:21 AM
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Even more clarification:

Q: The Basics – What is it, whom does it affect and when does it go into effect?
A: The air portion of the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI) will require, with some exceptions, citizens of the United States, Canada, Mexico, and the British Overseas Territory of Bermuda to present a passport to enter (or re-enter) the United States when arriving by air from any part of the Western Hemisphere beginning January 23, 2007.

Q: Who will the travel initiative affect?
A: U.S. citizens will need a passport to enter the United States by air from Canada, Mexico, Bermuda, South and Central America, and the Caribbean (known as the Western Hemisphere).

Also under this rule, citizens of Mexico, Canada, and Bermuda will now have to have a passport when entering the United States by air.

While United States citizens are currently required to have passports to enter most countries in Central and South America, this rule makes clear that the passport must be presented upon return to the United States as well.

Q: When will the travel initiative be implemented?
A: The initiative will be implemented in two phases. (two phases quoted in my previous reply)
So yeah, the passport requirements have only changed for those flying back into the U.S.. You will be driving so there will be no need for you to be concerned... until phase two rolls out in 2008.[/quote]
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 01:10 AM
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Passports fully won't be required until Jan 1st, 2008 unofficially

You can travel by car, bus, or Amtrak as I did recently and just use the DL and BC to get back and forth across the boarder. Very simple and relaxing.
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 01:14 AM
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i go there twice a year, i was also born there, (us citizen now)
and i have always needed my green card/passport to get in/out, every single time
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Big_Bird
i go there twice a year, i was also born there, (us citizen now)
and i have always needed my green card/passport to get in/out, every single time
Okay, then I'll correct myself then. As long as you and your occupants are born citizens of the US and aren't felons, you'll be fine. Any other situation, be sure too check the link and verify the documents you need.

It's good to read it anyways... find out what you can and cannot bring over the border and such.
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Jenna
Originally Posted by Big_Bird
i go there twice a year, i was also born there, (us citizen now)
and i have always needed my green card/passport to get in/out, every single time
Okay, then I'll correct myself then. As long as you and your occupants are born citizens of the US and aren't felons, you'll be fine. Any other situation, be sure too check the link and verify the documents you need.

It's good to read it anyways... find out what you can and cannot bring over the border and such.
wasnt trying to come off as a *****, sorta sounded that way, sorry

just stating that, with my passport and my green card, had to be shown, (not at the same time) when i became a citizen i didnt need the green card anymore, just the passport
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 02:01 AM
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Oh, no no no... I didn't mean to come off as though I thought you were being a jerk. I didn't think you were either .

There are so many freaking rules that it's best for someone to really double check what is required of oneself before making the trip up there. I can vouch for people in my circumstances though... as a U.S. born citizen. Anything other than that... I have no knowledge about.
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 02:34 AM
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I hope I don't have to go to Canada any time soon coming back is a pain and I am a US Citizen. It is always fun to be asked to pull over and go into the office for a few hours....
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 02:37 AM
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what are yu carrying that they do that to you, has never happened to me?
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 04:05 AM
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Thanks Jenna for the clarification. I just hate to see someone make the treck up to the border without the proper ID. How disapointing would that be?
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 04:09 AM
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I was just there. You need TWO forms of ID. I used Drivers License and Birth Certificate. Or instead of 2 you can use just a passport. This is for land or sea travel.

To fly you MUST HAVE A PASSPORT.
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 04:26 AM
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guitarguru44, I've never heard of that, nor have ever been asked to provide more than our I.D.s for each time we go to Canada (about every 3-4 months). Is there something that says that you need that many forms of I.D.? Were you denied access because of this?
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by MoScion
I hope I don't have to go to Canada any time soon coming back is a pain and I am a US Citizen. It is always fun to be asked to pull over and go into the office for a few hours....
Hey...you must clarify...you're a US Citizen AND on the terrorist watch list...

Next time we go to Canada I won't let you try a crazy stunt like trying to get across the border with three people that have the same first name as you thus only compounding the problem.

Don't forget...Driven To Perform is in June and I was hoping to go up there for that.



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