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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 12:00 AM
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Does anyone know of a shop around the area that tunes an Emanage? I'm either going greddy turbo or ZPI Stage 0 with emanage. I'm willing to drive around two hours at the most, but I don't want to go any farther without a decent tune since I heard the greddy base map is horrible...
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 12:09 AM
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I would hit up Intec http://www.intecracing.com/ in the south end, they have a dyno in-house also! Might get a little more out of a tune with that as well!
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 12:56 AM
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Joel at CarNutz is the local Scion turbo guru. if you are looking to go boosted in a Scion, he's definately the guy to go to.
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 12:58 AM
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Right on, I'll hit him up. Ya I wonder if it'd be ok to drive all the way to kent without a tune...I hear those guys at Intec do good things...
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 05:12 AM
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Do you have AAA? You get 3 tows for free! ($50/yr for membership)
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 07:22 AM
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Ya but I think it's only if the place you're towing to is within 20 miles...I think....
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Can you pull a posted fuel map? I know I found settings for v-afc's online for various cars.
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 12:23 AM
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Ya I'll try looking for something. I'll talk to greddy about it tomorrow. I have to call them anyway because we're going to try to get a turbo for the tc down here and a Supercharger for the xb. If all goes well we'll probably start carrying their products down here at the dealership. We're basically going to be opening a whole Scion Accessories department over here...
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If you go ZPI stage 0, you'll be able to cruise to get a better (less rich) tune without a problem... I'm running great on a stage 0 at 6 PSI without emanage and my AFRs are not TOO rich at all... usually around 10.7-12 under boost now. Install for me was cake...

If you go GReddy... I'd tow there, as they are notorious for poorly tuned, or improperly configured setups... see my pics for what the ZPI stage 0 can look like.

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Joel's xB was tuned at Carb Conn in Kirkland. http://www.carbconn.com/
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 07:01 AM
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Nice thanks for the info. Wait was Joel the guy with the rs2 xb that got traded in down at Rodland? This happened a while ago...before I was working here...
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Originally Posted by WeDriveScions
If you go ZPI stage 0, you'll be able to cruise to get a better (less rich) tune without a problem... I'm running great on a stage 0 at 6 PSI without emanage and my AFRs are not TOO rich at all... usually around 10.7-12 under boost now. Install for me was cake...

If you go GReddy... I'd tow there, as they are notorious for poorly tuned, or improperly configured setups... see my pics for what the ZPI stage 0 can look like.

i second mr. tims comment about the tow. all i have read are horrar stories of people (not only scions) having a greddy turbo and driving to the shop and boom. new engine for you. greddy = tow....zpi = go!

good luck with whatever ou decide...keep us posted.
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Yes, Joel is the guy who traded his RS 2.0 in at Rodland. He is also the one that worked with Greddy to develope the map they now sell with automatic xB turbo kits using emanage. You should be able to roll in to carb conn and they should already know exactly how to tune it so you get no check engine lights or anything according to what I've heard.
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I would be inclined to go with the zpi kit, except their shipping is horribly slow...even now. Their kit is awesome though! The numbers are really good. It just worries me that running without management or an intercooler or a bov could do damage. And they also took out the pre tapped oil pan, which to me was a pretty important thing. Now I might as well go with the greddy kit, since the zpi gets pretty expensive after adding bov and a few other minor things that aren't included...
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Originally Posted by rodlandscion
I would be inclined to go with the zpi kit, except their shipping is horribly slow...even now. Their kit is awesome though! The numbers are really good. It just worries me that running without management or an intercooler or a bov could do damage. And they also took out the pre tapped oil pan, which to me was a pretty important thing. Now I might as well go with the greddy kit, since the zpi gets pretty expensive after adding bov and a few other minor things that aren't included...
what do you eman worried about not having a BOV or FMIC? you wont have any problems as long as you dont turn the boost up. look at WDS, his has b een in for months..no problems wahtsoever,
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Right but I plan on keeping my car for a couple years without having any problems, not a couple months. But I might just go ZPI 0 with Emanage and BOV. Then in a few months, go for some 440 injectors, intercooler, turn up the boost, and then do a retune.
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Right but I plan on keeping my car for a couple years without having any problems, not a couple months. But I might just go ZPI 0 with Emanage and BOV. Then in a few months, go for some 440 injectors, intercooler, turn up the boost, and then do a retune.
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as soon as you start turning up boost, you'll start to hit your problems. if you want your car to last for years to come, i'd recomend a stage 0 and just leave it be. if you want to upgrader later on down the line, then upgrade to the stage 1. mixing and matching things will only cause problems later on in life.
Old Nov 16, 2006 | 01:01 AM
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Ya that's what I meant, I would do all the stage one stuff at once, minus emanage and BOV. And by turning up boost, I meant to 8 pounds. I can't see how tuning with the emanage to run better, but maybe the bov because people were saying they were having idling issues with stage 0 and bov...
Old Nov 16, 2006 | 04:46 AM
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without management or an intercooler or a bov could do damage.
Running without management on an aftermarket turbo setup on a car not specifically designed with a turbocharger in mind is a needless risk.

I don't care what ZPI says. Slapping a turbo onto a car that's specifically tuned for NA operations is absolutely stupid.

A recirculating diverter valve is a safeguard against damaging the turbo itself due to compressor surge.

Always have it recirculate unless you're springing for a complete standalone ECU that's set for Speed Density. Since the tC is MAF, having it set to vent to atmo is harming your car, even if you don't see anything wrong.

The intercooler isn't a big deal unless you're running more boost. It'll allow you to safely up your boost and tune more aggressive due to cooler charge temperatures.



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