i'm sure some of you have noticed by now that some of my posts seem more on the creative/idealistic sides of thought, but are based on fact, specs and actual ability.

and now for another thought, which i think i should share with the region first, another idea from the mind of Winter *me*.

i've been in the makings of progressing towards a 1ZZFE swap on the xB. now in the process, i'm goign to throw the extra money out for a special conversion. this conversion wont be something that will ruin the engine it's self, it's something that will or will not work and will leave the engine just as fuctional as it was before. the onversion i'm talking about is a hydrogen gas conversion, thats right, a water powered 1ZZFE.

now like i said, the conversion is a complete add-on to the engine. the only modified parts would be a stainless steel exhaust system, stainless steel valves and for fuel injected engines, injectors need a small modification *to fit the new "fuel lines" if you'd like to call them that*.

now before any starts saying "oh it's not true" or "it wont work" or "it's a scam, don't do it". it's nothing near those lines, infact this conversion is not only supplied but the general public, but is also provided by the department of energy.

so on my quest for an engine swap, at the same time i'm going to see about this water fuel conversion and while doing so i will do a video and writen diary on every step to make it easier for anyone else that feels like doing it aswell.

my goal, as originaly, is 200-250whp/lbs torque which is more then possible from the 1ZZFE which is a safe area and for my needs, more then perfect.

at the moment i am currently doing more research on the water fuel conversion. i have sent emails left and right seeing if turbo applications will work still which by the documentation of the conversion design, they should work just as fine as they do on normal gas fuels. performance and mileage is based on the adjustments and tuning you do. the injection system is based on a square wave signal frequency system circuit thats easy to build your self. for an example, the more power you want, the talller and longer the square comunication will be in order to carry out with more vapor generation and injection.

what i'm going to do is basicly settup the water conversion on the 1ZZFE before it's swaped into the xB. basicly turning my garage into a engine tuning lab with the block sitting on an engine stand with the rough system installed and tuned on it. i will then go from the simple products the settup tells you to use and upgrade from it's plastic safety based system into a plastic/metal based design for more durability. being that safety is still a concern, when i go to develope the stronger reaction chamber and such, i will be turning the stronger system in an open feild with the engine still on the stand but protected incase the fail safe valve is to fail or not go off due to a too high of fal safe setting resulting in a compression explosion. unil then, the video/writen diary will be with the safe original design. if i can perfect the conversion, i will eventualy replace all gas parts with the water conversion system inclueding fuel lines, gas tank and fuel pump. i will also be doing engine oil tests, seeing what the effect of using purely water as a fuel source is on diffrent oil types. my guess at this point is synthetic oils are going to be the way to go.

water/hydrogen powered vehicles are comming to you, much faster then you think. Toyota is in the process of designing a hydrogen fuel cell powered vehicle, several actualy. BMW is doing some simular, diffrence is BMW's hydrogen power vehicle is actualy the same as what i'm doing, only it's design specific. thier new "Water 7" or whatever design uses a small litre 12 cylinder engine that is both hydrogen powered and can also run of gasoline aswell. it produces only 260hp BUT, being it's a 12cylinder 260hp engine, it also means that it has insane throttle response. Toyota's design is somewhat diffrent. you can say goodbye to your generic engine design and say hello to a new four wheel drive system where each wheel IS your motor. "in wheel motors" is what they are calling it which gives for MUCH more interior space and possibilities.

also know, this conversion based on tuning/adjustments done results in an average between 50-300mpg *water* being the vapors used produce about 40% more useable energy then the vapors used from gasoline.

i hope this was an enjoyeable read, as for right now i'm going to continue my search for a 1ZZFE with extremely low miles to ensure less engine wear. the newer, the better but i'm hoping for something with about 10,000miles so that the engine is atleast broken in even if it was a babied. i figured i'd share this with the region first being that you guys would be the first to actualy see it in person when i've finaly got it done. once i've got it all down, i can help anyone that wants to do the conversion them selfs thats within the area as much as i can. as for now, i'm going to be learning more about the tuning system used for this settup.


P.S. i realise this is a long post... probably my longest... and i appolegize, i'm just overly excited and extremly confident that i will get to do something rather impressive and atleast be useful to others once again. i hate just sitting and twiddeling my thumbs so i'm always working on new ideas and when i'm this confident about something, i know for a fact that i will make it work.

Cheers!

 

Good Luck! Its going to be a long winter so why not!

 

my thoughts exactly

i have a basic reactor design already which i'll save until after i've done the conversion to the engine. as for the fuel delivery system, it's rather easy and actualy costs less then $100 to do an entire engine conversion.

imagen your fuel rails the way they are, thats basicly it for the hydrogen delivery. and as for ignition timing, we have to delay the timming rather then advancing the timing like we normaly do for turbo applications and whatnot. so the ignition needs to happen near top dead center rather then near mid or bottum dead center from what i've been able to gather. so this means the use of a fuel management system thats capable of not only advancing timing but delaying it aswell.

 

I applaud the efforts! With great engineering everything should turn out fantastic. Maybe if this works well, you may have a paying customer ME. haha.

 

i will take that into concideration. not that you would be a potential customer, but bcause it's a diffrent vehicle, diffrent engine, diffrent interior. it faces a diffrent challange then the xB. the xB, you can simply have two smaller but scynronized reactors going at once under the driver/front passenger seat *driver side for me* thus not taking much space. but for a tC you would have to loose trunk space for sure unless you did a center concel fiber glass settup and fit the reactor there. if the system is adjusted and tuned properly, you could simply take your gas tank out, clean any and all gas/old gas out and use it as your water tank.

also... and idea just popped in my head... no more carrieing backup 5 gallon gas cans on long trips... just a Brita water purifier

 

Yeah, I'd love to see how this turns out.

 

On my way to the Portland Cruise afew weeks back Thomas and I stopped at a rest stop just north of the border........we pulled into the stop and there was a guy there who was promoting the use of the new Hydrogen converter on his old Ford Ranger........simple machine really that introduces Hydrogen peroxide,baking soda, and water to pressure and turns to gas........fed to intake and makes fuel burn from 17% to 94 %........his Ranger gets like 34 MPG.........simple system and Yes we will be seeing this on a lot of cars soon........the process has been on the table for years.........no need for a fuel cell..........just the ability to add the proper levels to burn fuel cleaner and effeciantly.........chemistry 101..........

I took his pamplet from him and will see if it is still in my hoodie pocket....I think it is still there..............cool system.........

Years back at U of San Diego there was a Professor named Dr. John.....he came up with a CAT that turned the exhaust to almost 97% water........GM took him to court and squashed his Patent application........then took it and altered it........amazing to see water coming out of exhausts now......Hmmmmmm

guess we can thank the prez for at least signing the alternate fuels bill........if you read it it gives private people the rights to seek patents and design alternatives to fossil fuels.............

Is this the system you are installing.............Brian

 

it's simular, it doesn't use baking soda though. it's purely water that is being vibrated at specific frequencies to excite the hydrogen side of water breaking down the gas at a slower rate so it becomes safe and easy to use. here is an older video of Stanely Meyer's design which is something i will be attempting to duplicate with the designs i have. the designs i have is the same, but uses one set of eletrodes instead of several like Stanely's.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SHXw1QkqV9w

 

at the end of the video you see them talking about his water powered doom buggi, well, here it is - http://youtube.com/watch?v=HiLUQeOUy_o

 

Very nice...........I have seen that design before.........same basic principle.........more chemical/electrical,than pressure and chemical.......should give you great results....

 

indeed, i plan to use it on a built 1ZZFE. going for some forged pistons, rods, new cams, springs and valves to withstand both the turbo application and the higher energy thats present in the resulting gas. i want the block to be as safe as possible before performing the conversion.

 

this sound very intersting

 

update - i've been working on the design of the reactor. i'm making seeral modifications compared to the original design such as multiple electrodes for faster gas producing based on throttle response and control, heavier duty structural design to withstand higher fuel damands when needed which cause higher needed psi and higher temps generated. the reactor will be tested for 200 degree F water and 200psi internal preasure for safety measures to ensure it's strong enough to handle high temps and high preasures for long peiods of time EVEN THOUGH the water tmp shouldn't ever really get any hotter then 140 degrees F nor should the preasure ever get higher then 90psi.

Material - reactor will be made of 3/4" *0.75"* clear acrylic plexiglass industerial plastic. this inclueds the reactor tube, end seals and re-enforcement bars and belts around the middle of the reactor tube *these provent any barreling of the middle section of tube that can possibly be caused by high temps and preasures at the same time.*. i have high confidence in this material being it's the same material used for bullet-proof glass only that it's about 3/8's of an inch thinner then bullet-proof glass *1.15" = bullet -proof spec*.

suspension - there will be a Jyro suspension settup for the reactor to help reduce the chances of un-submerging the electrodes which can cause unwanted spiking and dipping of fuel production. the only downside to this, specialy for the xB and xA, is that the placing of this reactor somewhat makes having a middle rear passenger easy to have. you wouldn't be able to have someone sitting in the middle anymore being that the reactor will need will need it's space. BUT! this is ofcourse because i only have this one design going now and it's ment for high performance THUS needing to be of larger size to generate alot more fuel supply. i will later make a smaller more economy based reactor that is more suited for the xB and xA specificly. this design is supose to be a universal performance and test design until i have perfected it's abilities. but as for the xA and xB go, i have some ideas that i will be working on. i will however need someone with an xA to meet me at some point in time to get measurements being that the xA's interior is slightly smaller then the xB so i will need to meet with an xA owner soon for that.

thats it for the updates, enjoy.

 

wow...this is way over my head but sounds really cool!

 

imagen a Jyro mechine at a fair. it's about the same concept. you one one outer ring that spins or rocks frontward and backward while you have one inner ring inside the outer ring that soins or rocks from side to side. when you balance the reactor about right *20/80 top/bottom porpotioned weight* this allows the reactor to move with the G-forces of spirited driving smoothly. when you turn hard to the right, the bottom end of the reactor will reach over to the left, when you turn hard to the left, the bottom end of the reactor will reach over to the right. when doing this, it cancels out non-balanced water levels inside the reactor.

ofcourse this is all theoretical as to it's purpose. i will have it ready for testing if it's needed though. i need to test the effects of G-forces on it first to detirmin if the Jyro suspension will actualy be needed or not.

other then that, the rest is rather simple. build a preasure tank basicly and test it for extreme levels that the tank would probably never see in it's life time unless someone sticks a bomb in it or something. there are preasure release safety valves that act like a blow-off valve for turbos, diffrence is, it stays closed until the preasure gets too high and then instantly begings relieving preasure until the preasure is back under the designated safety setting. so if and when someone decides to try this them selfs, if you hear a preasure perging noise... you're generated WAY too much fuel OR you lines arn't big enough OR you were an idiot and forgot to even give your self some exiting fuel lines from the reactor...

 

I'd be the one forgetting the fuel lines from the reactor saying "my bad" as the PNW goes nuclear.

 

i'm picturing an extreme suspence and dramatic scene of a movie with the science crew going crazy cause the reactor is about to have a blow out and someone notices the fuel lines missing and then hearing some guy in the background who is completely relaxed reclined in a chair with a beer in his hand saying "Ah! THATS what i forgot... sorry, my bad guys." *BOMB!* end movie...

THANKFULY! you have me to help you out

 

update post edited, look below.

 

note, measurements that say something like 4.9999, should be 5.0000. the mistake would be due to my hand shacking on the mouse.

the holes on the outside are 0.25" holes for re-enforcement bars. these holes are only drilled half way into the top and bottom lids so that they may be epoxied into place on one side and become a "fit togethere" pattern on the top. there should also be a 3rd plexi ring that has a inner diameter of that of the outer diameter of the reactor tube which is 5". this outer ring should match the cut pattern of the top and bottom lid and shouldbe epoxied into place at dead center of the reactor tube and re-enforcement bars to act as a belt in the middle. the top and bottom lids should be bolt screwed in place nice and tight to suit upto 150psi without leaks.

 

Update - below is a rough design tablet showing the inner mounting of the basic structure and inner parts. the only withheld measurements are those for the pipe diameters which will be shared below the image. *sorry for the image size, it's the only way to view the measurements for those interested.



again, this is a basic idea of what to expect. the left over view shows the amount of pipes that make up each electrode while the right side shows how many electrodes are going to be present inside the reactor. the center ring shown in the right view is a central sealed off section where any wiring and sensor will be mounted. after taking in all displacement aspects of the central section and the eletrodes, there is about a litre of water that will be present in the reactor while the top 2 inner inches of the reactor tube is the room used to collect the produced gas. as of right now i have the full design on papper and ready to go. my trouble now is getting through to the company that will be going the custom acrylic for me.

as for the pipe sizes, they are as follows:

pipe a - 25mm outer diameter X 23mm inner diameter at 200mm length
pipe b - 21mm outer diameter X 19mm inner diameter at 200mm length
pipe c - 17mm outer diameter X 14.6mm inner diameter at 200mm length
pipe d - 12mm outer iameter X 10.1mm inner diameter at 200mm length
pipe e - 8mm outer diameter X 6mm inner diameter at 200mm length
metal central rod - 5/32" or 4mm outer diameter at 200mm length

according to the design references, the closer the pipes are to 1mm to each other the better while a tollerance of 1-5mm is exceptable. these pipe sizes keep it at 1mm between each one EXCEPT between C and D, there is a 1.3mm space between them which hardly makes a diffrence at all but i have insured that it is as close as possible and just out of coincidence pipe C and D both need to be positive while pipe A and the central rod need to be negative while pipes B and E are neutrals *based on a multy shell design from an australian's attempts*. so accentually instead of an 8 cell reactor, this basicly turns it into a 16 cell reactor while the cells are doubeling up on each other. if the neutral piece works as well as the australian guy was going nuts about then it would require less power. if not then there will be 3 negative and 3 positive supplied, if neutral does work, then only 2 negative and 2 positive.

enjoy

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