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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 04:53 AM
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my daughters b-day is coming up next month. i really want to get her a puppy. mostly a English Bulldog. Yes i know there a pretty penny..but anyone got connections on getting one?please let me know.

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Are you serious..? How old is she? You know you'll be the one taking care of the dog. Why not a fish or a hamster? Something easier to screw up on than a dog. :?
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Search on google for English Bulldog rescues in Southern California.

Also look on petfinder.com.

If you choose to purchase a puppy from a breeder, please choose responsibly. Make sure the breeder has credentials, ask a lot of questions, and ask to SEE THE PUPPY FIRST. "Backyard breeding" where people just get two of the same kind of dog and arbitrarily mate them for the purpose of making money is irresponsible, and is one of the main causes our animal shelters are overflowing with animals that need homes.

Also, research English Bulldogs online and find out there temperment/health issues/genetic dispositions to diseases/etc, before you make the commitment to owning one.

Thank you.
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 11:43 PM
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...ask to SEE THE PUPPY FIRST.
Also make sure you can see the parents as well to see their personalities and any possible health problems.

Personally, screw getting a pure bred dog and adopt one from the shelter. Best thing to do ever You actually get more love and loyalty from an adopted pet than a bought pet, at least in my experience (1 pure bred dog out of ~8 adopted pets).
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Originally Posted by ChelsDS
Originally Posted by ROBOTCRANKIT
...ask to SEE THE PUPPY FIRST.
Also make sure you can see the parents as well to see their personalities and any possible health problems.

Personally, screw getting a pure bred dog and adopt one from the shelter. Best thing to do ever You actually get more love and loyalty from an adopted pet than a bought pet, at least in my experience (1 pure bred dog out of ~8 adopted pets).
I gotta agree with Chels here bro.........your gonna want to read up on the breed and understand what your getting into.....full breeds are great but can be alot of expense and maintenance in the long run. Unless your showing them i'd really think about what your getting into.

I get all my pets from a shelter or rescue..... you'd be suprised how many great pets are given up for the stuidest reasons......
Also at shelters you can spend time with the pet and make sure your a match........

p.s Bull dogs slober like crazy!!
If your not cleaning up enough messes already, you'll have a few new ones with a bulldog!
Also, i'm not an expert and i don't have problems with any breed of dog. I do know from some personal experiance with pets that they all have different temprements...... do your research bro.

Good luck and best wishes on your new pet!

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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 02:08 AM
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I would also suggest going to some English bulldog meet ups so you can talk to owners of them and really ask them about their dog and their experiences with him/her. Going to meet-ups is a good way to get information (and advice) and to dip your toes into the water to see if it is really what you want for your family. If there aren't any English bulldog meets, you could always go to the local dog park on the weekends with your daughter to see if anyone owns one, and you can both talk to the owner. Familiarizing yourself with the local dog park early on will help when your dog has too much energy and needs a place to let it all out.
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http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/bulldog.htm

sounds like a great dog!

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how old is your daughter?? you are 20.... and if you are getting a child under 5 a PUPPY as a bday gift, that's just dumb. yep that's my opinion take it for what it is
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also, if the initial price is that much of an object (over reputability of breeders, personalities, parents, etc etc), you are not going to be able to afford a dog in the first place. a puppy is a FULL TIME responsibility, not many people understand what that really means. I got a pomeranian back in August and he's been great since, but between me and my girlfriend someone is Always around him to give him attention, and doesn't get left alone for more than a couple hrs by himself a few times each week
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Originally Posted by markymarkcirca
also, if the initial price is that much of an object (over reputability of breeders, personalities, parents, etc etc), you are not going to be able to afford a dog in the first place. a puppy is a FULL TIME responsibility, not many people understand what that really means. I got a pomeranian back in August and he's been great since, but between me and my girlfriend someone is Always around him to give him attention, and doesn't get left alone for more than a couple hrs by himself a few times each week
Agreed. Improper care and attention when a dog is a puppy leads to severe behavioral issues later on in life that may or may not be able to be trained out. You have to make sure that the dog bonds with you and your daughter, as well as socializes with other animals so it is not dog or cat aggressive.

Also, you must take into consideration the cost of vaccinations and neuter/spaying (which is now required by law in California). A vet visit will have a sit-in fee of $50 every time you go, and the puppy has to recieve a series of 6(?) shots over its first 4-5 months of life. The vet visits coupled with cost for vaccinations rack up, and then you still have to pay to get the dog neutered/spayed (which is around $150-200 at a private veterinarian's office, last time I checked). You also have to take into account the amount you will spend on treats/toys/leashes/bowls/food/etc. Dog toys will get EXPENSIVE...and if you don't think your dog will need them, think again.

I could go on and on about the commitment it takes to raise a puppy. Most people don't realize this, and are overwhelmed and end up having to give the dog up. I work at a pet store, and I see so many people come in with puppies they just rescued or purchased who don't know much about the commitment it takes, and they are overwhelmed by everything we have to tell them about raising dogs. You also must keep in mind that even if you are buying the dog for your daughter, YOU as the parent have to be committed to providing at least financially for the dog, assuming your daughter is not old enough to work.

So anyway, that's my $.02. I'm not saying what's right or wrong, but I hope the information I provided leads you to make the right decision for yourself.
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P.S. If you find a good rescue organization, an adult dog is just as loving and in need of a home as a puppy. I know they might not be as cute, but they take a lot less of a commitment, and if you think about it they're only really a puppy for a very small amount of time in regards to their whole life span anyway. They won't stay a puppy forever, so really if you want a puppy you have to want a dog as well because that's what it's going to turn into. Just something to think about.
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how much you willing to spend? I dont think a bulldog would be a good choice..haha but what do I know.
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Originally Posted by ROBOTCRANKIT
P.S. If you find a good rescue organization, an adult dog is just as loving and in need of a home as a puppy. I know they might not be as cute, but they take a lot less of a commitment, and if you think about it they're only really a puppy for a very small amount of time in regards to their whole life span anyway. They won't stay a puppy forever, so really if you want a puppy you have to want a dog as well because that's what it's going to turn into. Just something to think about.
That's why we got a pomeranian, he's 5 lbs now and 6 months old, so he shouldn't grow to more than like 6 lbs if that.. You need to consider living space. We got the pom because we may move into an apartment or something and would not be able to give a big dog the space they need and deserve. Seriously, you just gotta do a LOT of research before you go making decisions all *****-nilly.
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Originally Posted by markymarkcirca
Originally Posted by ROBOTCRANKIT
P.S. If you find a good rescue organization, an adult dog is just as loving and in need of a home as a puppy. I know they might not be as cute, but they take a lot less of a commitment, and if you think about it they're only really a puppy for a very small amount of time in regards to their whole life span anyway. They won't stay a puppy forever, so really if you want a puppy you have to want a dog as well because that's what it's going to turn into. Just something to think about.
That's why we got a pomeranian, he's 5 lbs now and 6 months old, so he shouldn't grow to more than like 6 lbs if that.. You need to consider living space. We got the pom because we may move into an apartment or something and would not be able to give a big dog the space they need and deserve. Seriously, you just gotta do a LOT of research before you go making decisions all *****-nilly.
Smaller dogs also consume considerably less food than a larger dog would, and food costs for a dog add up. I want to get another dog soon, and I love large dogs, but since I will most likely be paying for it and moving out into an apartment in the next year or so, a smaller dog might be a better option for me.
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Small dogs = less poop to pick up; smaller messes to clean up
Fish = cheap to replace

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Originally Posted by ChelsDS
Small dogs = less poop to pick up; smaller messes to clean up
Fish = cheap to replace

not to mention, it's not as hard to get over when a fish dies.


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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 04:53 AM
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Are you serious..? How old is she? You know you'll be the one taking care of the dog. Why not a fish or a hamster? Something easier to screw up on than a dog. :?
its acutally a present for my family & my daughter, i always see how happy my daughter gets when a family member brings over his new puppy. she LOVES the puppy. i dont see the joy she would get out of a fish or a hampster. lol. and yes i am aware i would be taking care of the pup i just figured since me and my family been wanting a dog might as well get a present for all of us since her bday is a couple days after christmas... so its like a 2-1 present! lol..
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Originally Posted by ROBOTCRANKIT
Search on google for English Bulldog rescues in Southern California.

Also look on petfinder.com.

If you choose to purchase a puppy from a breeder, please choose responsibly. Make sure the breeder has credentials, ask a lot of questions, and ask to SEE THE PUPPY FIRST. "Backyard breeding" where people just get two of the same kind of dog and arbitrarily mate them for the purpose of making money is irresponsible, and is one of the main causes our animal shelters are overflowing with animals that need homes.

Also, research English Bulldogs online and find out there temperment/health issues/genetic dispositions to diseases/etc, before you make the commitment to owning one.

Thank you.
thanks for all your helpful information.i pretty much already knew everything you already said, i just wanted to know if anyone knew somebody selling one. i grew with my dog (who passed away). i want my daugther to grow up with a dog the same way i did. i have done my reasearch on these dogs and still am. i do know what its like to handle a puppy/dog. my girlfriend had a yorkie but was stolen.


but once again YOUR HELP is appreciated!
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Sorry but.. getting a puppy as a bday+christmas gift is a bad idea. Most breeders, good breeders, don't really like selling their pups as gifts like that since most of the time their dogs end up back in their care, shelter or another home. You're going to need a LOT of free of free time to take care of a 4mo old puppy. Plan on waking up at 2-3am every morning till they're about 6mos old, then it'll go from 4am-6am, etc.etc. Someone will need to be home basically all day. A puppy is like a new baby but they're much harder since they go off in corners to do their business.

How old is she turning? Honestly, smaller pets are much better to start off with for everyone.



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