C&D Feb/06: xB wins "Rebelious Boxes"
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C&D Feb/06: xB wins "Rebelious Boxes"
I have just had my Feb 06 C & D magazine.
It has a comparison test between
1. Honda Element
2. Scion xB
3. Pt Cruiser
4. Chevrolet Cruiser (Sorry HHR)
The xB really impessed the panel with its smooth shifter and good clutch. It won on gas mileage, lateral g, price and simplicity of design being compared to the original Mini Cooper or Datsun 510 - "that were frisky and eager and inspired us to be car guys forever".
"Few cars promise so little as the xB and deliver so much".
1st. xB (natch)
2nd. Pt Cruiser
3rd. HHR
4th. Element
BTW the car that was the biggest came in last. Hopefully Toyota gets Car and Driver
and not mess around with the design and BLOAT the xB into some Element's ba$tard child.
Pick up a copy its a really good write up.
I know I'm a tC guy but, THE BOX ROX
If it says Scion I like it.One love
It has a comparison test between
1. Honda Element
2. Scion xB
3. Pt Cruiser
4. Chevrolet Cruiser (Sorry HHR)
The xB really impessed the panel with its smooth shifter and good clutch. It won on gas mileage, lateral g, price and simplicity of design being compared to the original Mini Cooper or Datsun 510 - "that were frisky and eager and inspired us to be car guys forever".
"Few cars promise so little as the xB and deliver so much".
1st. xB (natch)
2nd. Pt Cruiser
3rd. HHR
4th. Element
BTW the car that was the biggest came in last. Hopefully Toyota gets Car and Driver
and not mess around with the design and BLOAT the xB into some Element's ba$tard child.
Pick up a copy its a really good write up.
I know I'm a tC guy but, THE BOX ROX
If it says Scion I like it.One love
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Although I would think Toyota would have sense enough not to mess up the box...I think they will make it bigger like the element...cuz for some reason...most americans love their big cars....
keep it simple and reliable please!!! I love my boxxx!!
merry christmas--- happy holidays
keep it simple and reliable please!!! I love my boxxx!!
merry christmas--- happy holidays
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Not surprised to hear about our beloved boxes. (We have two of them.) Toyota is supposed to do a redesign for 07 model year and yes, we hear too that it will be bigger. (I'm wondering if part of the redesign reason is that not only has the xB been a success in the under 30 market but maybe too much of a success, like my wfie and I, in the over 50 market. Every xB we buy means loss of a Highlander or Camary (yech) sales.
Isn't there an old saying about "If its not broken, don't fix it. I don't understand marking of cars. I would trade in for a new (not redesigned xB) every few years for the rest of my life.
Isn't there an old saying about "If its not broken, don't fix it. I don't understand marking of cars. I would trade in for a new (not redesigned xB) every few years for the rest of my life.
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Originally Posted by GooseNaBoxxx
Although I would think Toyota would have sense enough not to mess up the box...I think they will make it bigger like the element...cuz for some reason...most americans love their big cars....
keep it simple and reliable please!!! I love my boxxx!!
merry christmas--- happy holidays
keep it simple and reliable please!!! I love my boxxx!!
merry christmas--- happy holidays
NEW ENGINE
I would have bought a box if it wasn't for the lawnmower engine :\
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Originally Posted by YellowSubxB
Not surprised to hear about our beloved boxes. (We have two of them.) Toyota is supposed to do a redesign for 07 model year and yes, we hear too that it will be bigger. (I'm wondering if part of the redesign reason is that not only has the xB been a success in the under 30 market but maybe too much of a success, like my wfie and I, in the over 50 market. Every xB we buy means loss of a Highlander or Camary (yech) sales.
Isn't there an old saying about "If its not broken, don't fix it. I don't understand marking of cars. I would trade in for a new (not redesigned xB) every few years for the rest of my life.
Isn't there an old saying about "If its not broken, don't fix it. I don't understand marking of cars. I would trade in for a new (not redesigned xB) every few years for the rest of my life.
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Rickisan - In our enthusiasm (and maybe because of it) , I believe that the xB is going to be seriously redesigned like the new bB with a hyped up sound system and coordinated interior lighting in order to appeal more to the younger crowd. According to Toyota, I'm sure, every time a 50 plus like us buys an xB it's a loss of a sale of a Camry (yech) or a Highlander (too tight inside.) Although I did not have a VW back in the 1960s (for some reason I was driving a boat known as a Chrysler Newport) I clearly see the parallel between the xB and the Beetle - unusual shape, low price, high mileage, practical, easy to repair. Although I'm not happy with the origin of the VW - the "People's Car" designed under **** rule, the concept of a small , inexpensive but functional car for the masses was, and still is, a great idea. I think Toyota should run with the idea and make the xB the world's second best selling car, right after the Corolla. Unfortunately, market pressure on Toyota, not always common sense, will cause the demise and/or major redesign of the xB. Such is life in supply and demand marketing.
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Re: C&D Feb/06: xB wins "Rebelious Boxes"
Originally Posted by Celt
I have just had my Feb 06 C & D magazine.
Anyways, thanks for posting the thread. I was just going to. Great article. Love to see the xB emerge victorious YET AGAIN. It's personally validating, what can I say.
And to think the other car I initially considered was an Element! There but for the grace of God...and the Element's overBOOSTed steering, tippy handling, seating for only 4, lame plastic cladding, cheap interior, and bare bones base DX trim--go I.
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Originally Posted by YellowSubxB
I would trade in for a new (not redesigned xB) every few years for the rest of my life.
Originally Posted by YellowSubxB
Unfortunately, market pressure on Toyota, not always common sense, will cause the demise and/or major redesign of the xB.
It always happens, sigh. Just when you think they've got it down--as in our case with the xB--they start messing with near perfection.
But I suppose that's how we ended up with the xB in the first place. It evolved from everything before it (even though I am considering suing Toyota for the design trademark; I concepted the xB when I was 5, and I have the scrawl to prove it! )
I, too, would never buy a joke Camry or Highlander. Despite inevitable corporate greed, someone at the head office must realize that the older demographic of xB buyers isn't going to just clone graduate into tepid offerings like those. Look, I wasn't considering any Toyotas at all until I saw the xB in Autoweek, so for me, the Scion didn't just rejuvenate interest, it created it. If the xB goes the way of the Pontiac Aztec, I'll start writing my congressman about the Nissan Cube.
To Toyota's credit, though, things like the FJ Cruiser and the Yaris are queued up for market. Keepin' it fresh over there...hopefully it will last for awhile longer.
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