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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by LVXB
interior is sweet! as far as the exterior goes I like the rake on the side windows and the tailights are kinda cool. but that grill? wtf? it looks like a mistubishi and a honda had a bastard child!

Lets face it though, NONE of this matters as the nexB(hah!) for us. As we are going to get a practicalized t2b.
You may have reliable sources. . . but I've never met them, so who ever said the t2B was going to be turned into the next xB?

the ccX concept (remember that?) never materialized as the tC. . . in fact the tC is extraodinarily different from the ccX.
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 06:18 AM
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ease up on your tone son its just the internet.

my sources are just, y'know the news.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=108243
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 06:18 AM
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Everything is pimp about it... The front, the side, the interior....

Everything except those PT Cruiser taillights! Who's bright idea was that? The old vertical taillights just flowed so much better with the boxy shape of the car.

Well, Toyota was planning on making a new bB in Japan, and a "different, bigger" version for the american xB, lets see how that goes. I'm betting we end up with something pretty close to that. I just hope they put new tails on it.

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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 06:26 AM
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well since there will be no official replacement for our xB (as in no other model will have the xB name) then the t2b could be the xB replacement.

yea the ccX and the tC are different, but from what I see the ccX turned into the tC.
they both have the same ideas put into them
-they are both hatchbacks
-styling expected in a sporty coupe with expansive cargo-hauling capability needed for light-duty work and play
-glass roof
-The rear seatbacks fold forward to provide ample cargo space
-a sliding .... cover
-performance-tuned 2.4-liter, dual overhead cam four-cylinder. The engine is linked to a four-speed automatic transmission
-the "waterfalll" where the comfort and audio controls are.

so i dont think so.
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by LVXB
ease up on your tone son its just the internet.

my sources are just, y'know the news.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=108243
I wasn't trying to sound hostile. That was exactly what I was trying to avoid. And ah, yes.

But the article only suggests that the t2B is a "pointer" for the next xB. . . which is extremely vague to say the least.

But following trends, the ccX (which was Scion's last concept vehicle) does not really resemble the tC in anyway, shape, or form, except for the fact that it has two doors and four wheels.

I'm guessing that the next xB will be semi-boxy, have 4 doors (and a hatch), and have 4 wheels. Anything other than that is probably still up in the air (as far as anyone OUTSIDE of Toyota Motor Corp. is aware).

I mean, look at the Yaris! Everyone posted up pics of the 4 door Vitz RS being the replacement for the Echo. . . but only the 3 door hatch makes it stateside. All I'm saying is that even the experts are absolutely terrible at predicting Toyota Motor Corp. Again, I just wanted to point out that the t2B is not necessarily going to be the next xB. . . in fact, it could be waaaay different. There's no way to be sure.
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 07:01 AM
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I'm not feeling it...
I AGREE!!!
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 07:05 AM
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 07:08 AM
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there is still too much that they were wanting to do with the ccx that the ended up doing in the tC. so I am still not seeing you conclusion as being a possibility. still i could be wrong, but so could everbody.

and hear is a reacher that im gonna go ahead and throw out because im weird like that:
and if the whole confusion thing with model names didn't exist, the tC could have been called the xC
the "concept" for the xB was called the bbX here
you could say that the ccX would have been the concept for the xC(tC)
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 07:08 AM
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I'm not liking it either 100% I think they need to fix the grill by making it even with the headlights and take that ugly line created by the body molding that runs down the side to the front. I tried to photoshop an idea. Looks a little better but still needs some work and I'm not good with photoshop. I wonder if those designers at toyota read this stuff!

Here it is:
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 07:10 AM
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A.F.I.K. the four door yaris IS coming. I mean thats what the article posted on here said. Other wise why would they have had the reporter drive the sedan and the hatch?

If you check what I wrote I said 'a practicalized' t2B. That was a generalization. Its pretty clear that the t2B set the tone for whats to come. Its also pretty clear that this new japanese bB is not coming to scion dealer near you.

Design aside, financially, the only smart way they'll be able to replace the xb, keep the price close to the current car, and make a real profit on a high volume seller is to build it stateside.
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by LVXB
A.F.I.K. the four door yaris IS coming. I mean thats what the article posted on here said. Other wise why would they have had the reporter drive the sedan and the hatch?

If you check what I wrote I said 'a practicalized' t2B. That was a generalization. Its pretty clear that the t2B set the tone for whats to come. Its also pretty clear that this new japanese bB is not coming to scion dealer near you.

Design aside, financially, the only smart way they'll be able to replace the xb, keep the price close to the current car, and make a real profit on a high volume seller is to build it stateside.
Yeah, I wasn't trying to argue with you, and I think I misunderstood what you were trying to say. "Practicalized" sounds like it is essentially the same thing, minus a few details. There are a lot of things on the t2B that will probably never make it into production. . . a lot of design dependent things. . . like the doors, for one.

And as far as the Yaris, when I was referring to the 4 door Vitz, I meant exactly that. There is no such thing as a sedan Vitz, only the hatch, which many people will call a fifth door. My bad. I should have said 5 door. They did, however, relabel another Japanese model as the 4 door Yaris (sedan), but it's not a Vitz. I forgot the name of the other model. But anyway, only the 3 door Yaris(Vitz) is coming, not the 5 door, as was indicated by some "predictive" sources. And we do get a sedan (4 door), but no 4 door hatch.
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by sarcasmkillsme
Looks like a mesh of a PT cruiser and a xB. All i gotta say is: eww
I can't agree more. I'll take my box.
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 08:49 AM
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so much for our boxy originality...
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 10:13 AM
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i hope this car come with a faster engine
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Originally Posted by jaimecosio
i hope this car come with a faster engine
Well, the JDM version doesn't. . . it retains the 1.3 and 1.5L engines. . . but we're supposed to get a USDM specific replacement (or so they say) so a faster/slower bB wouldn't really matter anyway. That is unless, of course, you live in Japan.
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 12:40 PM
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Not diggin' it much.
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by sarcasmkillsme
Looks like a mesh of a PT cruiser and a xB. All i gotta say is: eww
Exactly...
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 01:38 PM
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Not as ugly as the current box, but still ugly......
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 02:16 PM
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What happened to the rear leg room? it looks like it would be cramped back there, thats one of the things that surprises most people about the xB, the amount of leg and head room inside the thing.
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 02:28 PM
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Here's a pic from the site that might help put the car in perspective...it does seem more compact then the current model.

http://toyota.jp/bb/ecology/image/main.jpg

Also, here's a spot on the site that displays more interior shots/configurations...its got that great magic seats refresh feature where the front seats fold completely flat and create a lounge situation.

http://toyota.jp/bb/interior/index.html

However, who knows what we'll get since this is clearly not based off of the Corolla platform. One things for certain, I'm going to wait for more news before I buy.



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