hideous. No dice. I would not drive that let alone own it. Too crazy for American eyes.

 

That post above with the Honda Stepwgn. <--- Yes, that's how it's spelled on the car. Not even a comparison to the bB. Different class of vans. That's the size of an Astro. The new Stepwgn is hideous too. Honda Airwave is where it's @. Honda Elysion is what we should have got and when will Honda ever send us a real Odyssey again?

 

thats cool man, theres nothing wrong with being a closet aztek fan

oh and stating what your opinion is, IS a form of objectivity and stating that 'objectivity is myth' is you opinion.

Neat huh?

 

I'd rock it

 

now, remove that round foglight, cut the mid grille to same length of the top grille.
put some fog lights(same design angle as the headlight) on both ends of the lowest grille.

then, i'm sold

 

xB with curves/pt cruiser with less curves

 

Looks like an xA with a tall rear end

 

It's a good thing we didn't get the 5 door, because that would mean the end of the xA, IMHO-the cars would be so close that it would be stupid to sell both. They realized this, that's why we are only getting a 3 door and a 4 door, because they wanted to keep the xA as the small 5 door.

 

I like the interior but overall the HHR looks better.

 

Agreed. I was merely pointing out that the automotive "forecasters" seldom use their brains, and are purely speculative. It's best not to use them as a source of information, but entertainment. Toyota is a VERY difficult company to predict.

 

Um, I think you have subjectivity and objectivity confused. That's cool, man, there's definitely no IQ test to be a memeber here. Clearly.

If I state an opinion, it is subjective. In fact, there is nothing I can state that is not influenced by my own mind, therefore 'objectivity is a myth', but that's a WHOLE different thread.

My subjective opinion is that the aztek is one of the ugliest cars in the last 20 years, along with the eagle 4wd wagon. When I factor in 'design inflation', as in, what an aztek would look like if it were desinged today, I envision this hideous monstrosity that has been unveiled to Japan. I believe that I am entitled to say that.

Now, that's just the exterior, really. I dig the interior for sure.

 

I actually like the look of the front. The back, well I wish they left it alone.

 

It sort of looks like the front end of a train.

 

nope nothing like the HHR or the PT cruiser

the new bB is dead sexy!

the more u look at it, the more u will appreciate the lines!

it still has a boxy look with more buldges in the fenders, and i bet this new bB wil be highly customable

 

I'm not saying it looks like it. I'm saying i like the wider profile of the HHR better than the higher profile of the bB. I like the way it looks but I dunno about dead sexy

 

Just so happens I saw the Japanese TV ad for the new bB on the Japanese channel here in LA. My Japanese isn't that well but there was some mention of Scion.com so I wouldn't be surprised that it might be released in the US someday.

 

Hey everyone!!, when do ya'll think the bB is going to hit the U.S?

 

I like it. I actually *really* like it, a hell of a lot better than that T2b monstrosity that they unveiled a while ago. Also like the front end a lot better than the "fat lower lip" of the current xB. my wishlist would be that they bring this over with a 130-140hp engine, maybe the 1.8 VVTI from the Celica/Corolla.

For some reason the tC always looked smaller than the Matrix, although it has a shorter wheelbase, overall length and weighs 200lbs less.

Now, if they could come out with a new box based on the corolla but still give it that small feeling, and shove the 2.4l engine in it (and keep the weight somewhere around the Matrix as well, 2700lbs), then it would be killer. Hell, it'd be faster than the tC.

 

Well...

Let's just say I'm happy with my xB and very glad I bought it.

The current xB is a quirky, practical, lovable little beast that aligns with the "form follows function" ideals.

Ergonomically the curent xB is an excellent design - everything from the exterior box shape, to the shapes of the doors and hatch, to the size and placement of the windows is very functional. The instrument layout on the dash is ergonomically sound, as are the placements of the controls (except for the interior light...).

The design of the 'New bB' does not have as good a set of ergonomics, inside or outside. The rear hatch inhibits 'cargo' loading, the 'swoopy' windows do not have the visibility, the more cramped interior does not have the accessibility, the new instrument package does not have the obviousness, and the new doors limit access. It has too many compromises. (even the exterior looks like a lot of 'compromises' - a 'design by committee' package...

Yes the design is "new" and therefore attracts attention, but it doesn't have the underlying practicality that makes 'The Box' so lovable. The box doesn't apologize for it's shape, it doesn't have to. This 'new' thing, though... Ugh.

Sorry, the "New bB" is not my ideal 'next vehicle' and I would be looking elsewhere if I had to replace my box with something new.

My unaskedfor opinion is that it would be a mistake to replace the xB in the US with something this different from the xB's design reasons. Keep the current xB with VERY minor updates for another year, then, if a suitable replacement can be put together, ease it in to the lineup.

(That "New bB" does NOT meet the needs I was looking to fill, as well as the current xB, and therefore there is nothing to induce me to buy one at any price point.)

(The Aztek is still uglier, though...)

 

hmm me personally i think the ASStek is the ugliest thing no matter what. I also think that the front end on this is kool and the size of it is kool too, i love small vip cars but that pt cruiser lookin back end needs to GO!!!!!!!!!! oh and i love the interior also. it would be kool if we got it with a fixed rear end and a 2zz motor perhaps =) but thats just my 2 cents . C ya guys!