Looks like my next car will be a PT conv. turbo.
It's got power ( toyota are reading?)
And it looks like the new XB replacement.
There are mods up the wazoo for this car.
Who uses the rear seat?
So the room issue is not there!!

 

darn, I was hoping that japan would do a much better job. It looks like they were going to rely on the darnded concept and not find something new. Overall, it sort of does resemble the bB, but its not blocky anymore.

Im digging the interior though. That must be the hype under this new concept. I guess I didn't really look through this thread long enough but that armrest is quite interesting (Music Player bB).

The big downside is of course that engine... and ... the weirdo shape back of a car!! I hate the back of this vehicle and the position of the tail lights... Ugh....

I should just stick to my "xB" for now... : D

 

Oh and one other thing... If usa does happen to release this bad boy... maybe... i hope it has one of those special packages (Kenstyle, Modelista, Street Billet) on it already as an "american concept". hehehe..

 

You can't replace a vehicle that's just blatantly blunt like the xB. It's like saying the Hummer H2 replacement will be aerodynamic as a Ferrari. You can't turn the new Beetle into a box. You can't super size the Mini Cooper. The xB's day of execution is near. Nothing can replace it. On that note the new bB is made by Daihatsu Motors, partly owned by Toyota. So instead of a Toyota sticker on the side pillar, it might say Daihatsu. Not sure if that will keep the bB from coming stateside. Might flow well in Europe where Daihatsu's are also sold.

Did someone say t2B Cargo?

 

Thanks for defining objectivity and subjectivity in such an objective way. Until you came up with your own matrix-like definitions I was seriously lost in life. Oh and thanks for questioning my IQ as well! You are superhelpful.

Oh and So glad I can still be a MEMEMBER here. Thanks for the blessing.

 

ease up on your tone son its just the internet.

 

good deal man. I'm glad you have a sense of humor.

 

http://www.nihoncarandbike.com/index...ge=news&id=200

More pics and video

 

I LUV THE NEW LOOK!!!!!! That front end looks like a mean wee bulldog- grrrrrrr!

Come on people- we all love the xB because it's bold and it makes a statement. It says "I'm different, because I don't care to look like you." This new bB carries on that tradition. People who don't like this new design are probably the same people who didn't get the xB.

Too bad here in the US we're going to get some bloated SUV crap to replace the current xB. Any time you hear something is 'designed for the american market'- that means it's garbage designed by rank amateurs. Those money-grubbing bastards at Scion just had to ruin a good thing. They heard that cross-over SUV's are the hottest growth segment, and they rush in like the braindead corporate lemmings that they are. Goodbye originality. Hello stupid SUV bandwagon. Just another BOOOORING SUV. They think they can sell you a boring SUV just because they have a 'hip-hop generation' marketing campaign. ie. they think you (we) are stupid. PH*CK YOU SCION.

 

Looks more like a Jack 'O Lantern on bad acid.

It's beyond my comprehension how anyone could think THAT hideous clown face front-end looks good. I guess that would explain some of the body kits people buy. I guess FUGLY is the new pretty or something. WTF...

BTW, I have an xB and they missed the boat here and did what Honda did to the Element. Made the design overly "fussy" with non-sensical random lines and ridges that have no flow and bizarre shapes that do NOT work.

What made the original great is the fact that it has straight, simple lines and classic proportions. It's simple and clean. This...this...THING looks like what would happen if you let some 16 yr old ricers with poor eyesight design a "phat" body kit for the xB. They just ruined it. I'll gladly accept something that looks more like the T2B than THAT piece of dogcrap. Thank Jeezus we won't be subjected to looking at that pus-filled boil of a vehicle.

 

^^Agreed the t2B defintely looks better.

 

I'm with Tomas. Functionality is 90% of what attracted me to the xB. Almost nothing about the car is stylized, and the result matched my needs nearly exactly, right down the line.

Pictures can be deceiving, but this new design appears to have compromised some of the xB's functionality for the sake of style. To the extent that's true, it's a downgrade, IMO.

It's mostly academic to me; I expect to be driving my xB until at least 2015, if not longer. I always keep a good car until it becomes too expensive to maintain.

But whether something like this new bB gets imported to the US, or whether the rumored US-specific larger version comes to pass, I believe Toyota would be making a mistake abandoning the niche for a highly utilitarian small wagon that they both created and filled so well with the xB.

RichC

 

DAMN! Oh.... DAMN!! That thing is just.... just... WRONG!! IMO, of course. If that's where the xB/bB is going, I'm keeping my toaster FOREVER! Me NO LIKEY!!

 

I don't like it, but I didn't like the original xB at first either. The xB really grew on me, and in fact in honesty if I had to get rid on one of my cars it would probably be the tC, not the xB. So maybe this one will grow on me too, but for now I don't like it.

 

These are great cars for the money, but they aren't built like pre-1990s Mercedes. You might want to be a little more realistic about how long you'll have it. It would take a miracle for one of these things to last 20 years. If you want to see the future, just look at a Paseo or a Tercel and see how solid those are now. They might still be running, but they aren't looking so hot.

These are disposable cars, not classic heirlooms you hand down to your children.

 

As a matter of fact, I'm basing my expectation on my experience with an '81 Tercel, which lasted 16 years with only routine maintenance, used much the same way we're using our xB. We've also gotten 14 years and 165,000 miles (so far) from a 91 Mazda MPV - the last 65k after giving it to my son. So I have some experience with the longevity of Japanese cars, and with handing them off to the next generation as well.

Also, I think that a society that considers a $15,000 machine that uses a ton of natural resources to make and many thousands of gallons of fuel to operate to be "disposable" has some real problems.

Finally, 2015 is ten years from now, not 20.

RichC

 

thats gangsta!

 

"It would take a miracle for one of these things to last 20 years."

I don't agree. Its far better built than the 1973 mustang mach 1 I drove from 1992 to 1999 (26 years old, 220,000 on the odometer), or the 1977 F150 I drove from 1987 to 1992, (15 years old, 180,000 on odometer). Its even better than 1996 Ford Escort I drove from 1999 to 2004, and that was just about 9 years old and 130,000 on the odometer.

So making it to 2015 (10 years from now, not 20, by my math), it would only need to be 11% more durable than a 1996 Ford Escort.

I think it will make it.

 

that pic above is a good look. like i said before just like the first xb i saw, i thought was stupid now i like it if it does comeover i hope i can do it again!

 

I keep hearing how people were originally put off by the xB, I loved it the first time I saw it, and said I would but one. and I was up until the '06 tC came out.

but with this? I like parts of it. but the whole package isn't working for me.... and im sorry that cargo version loses some of what I liked about it and keeps more of what I dont like.

it looks like its not wide enough for itself, and that space between the headlights looks like they could not figure what to do there. I wonder what it wwould look like if the grille was put there and it was given a front bumper

like that only not too drastic

and the back end is all wrong. when I look at cars if the back looks bad the whole thing goes down the tube cause the back end is what people notice more when driving. and i like my a$$ to look good.