modifeid post? are u kidding me?thats the ONLY post !

look buddy when u replace I/H/E u dont just stop at header. after u put on the right exhaust system, the restriction would be just about gone, and the gains would be right back up there at around 45hp from the original 51hp this is not even counting the gains from intake

 

Why would i modify your unknowledgable post just to correct you once again?

Look at the base line dyno results. One was done to wheels, other done to crank. The first testing showed on a test pipe, the next page shows crank results of an average 4-5hp gain. I/h/e on a B16 with typical 4-1, cai/sri and cat back will deliver around 13-15whp overall. Okay, not 51whp. But your knowledge, all these header's paired with i/e would deliver 30whp+, majority aren't true race headers just testing average header's.

 

Your all talk and you can't shut your mouth when you are wrong. You have to continue keep going believing you are right, changing your post and you still don't know what you are talking about.

Call me a fan boy all you want, at least i know what i'm talking about.

 

hey atleast i dont go resorting to immature tactics such as mis quoting you to try and make u look stupid, and apparently i know what im talking about much more than you do

all you do is under estimate the cappabilites of the tC because your jealous you could only afford the "slow scion" You say that you didnt buy the box to be fast and would have bought a tC if you wanted, but really? If that was the case YOU WOULDNT GO AROUND TRYING TO DRIVE FAST AUTOXING YOUR SLOW BOX!!

cya sucka
p.s. i beat SI's all day long (not the new ones)

 

Sure, i prove you wrong with everything on that website and you resort going back to the original idea of this entire thread. You are the most immature person on here, you and i both know you changed the hell out of your post and i still disproved everything you had.

You obviously don't know the first thing about autocross because 1/4 mile times have zero reflection on autocross or road courses. I wouldn't have bought a tC if i wanted because its not for me. Yeah you beat Si's all day long, just like i/h/e yeilds 30whp+?

 

Stay on topic guys...this is about the SI vs. the S/C tC.

 

yep, years ago us older guys would sit around the cave, and using hierogliphics, would bang out "Vega vs Pinto" arguments all day long ( heck, what else could we do-- we didn't have fire yet )...... but we'd still be civil about it...

you guys all have your points, but whether right or wrong, this thread gets so damn personal that us out here just reading for info can get turned off by the slamming back and forth. I'll agree everyone deserves his opinion, but this does get pretty deep at times.

maybe call it a draw, and move on to another thread. And when guys this summer start running the 2 cars, then you can bring this back on with some real numbers...
just .02 from the grey hair crowd...

 

you proved wrong everything i had? ok buddy i dont recall u disproving one thing. i/h/e does yield 30+ hp are u retarded?

no worries my new autometer d-pic will be on the way soon and ill be showing you exactly what my tC can do. 0-60 times, 1/4 mile times, and your favorite lateral G's for the good ole autoX. Sure it can do much more but this all im gonna need to shut u up.

 

killerx, you care to explain to us how your car is so much better handling than a tC with stock wheels and tires? Last I checked, the grip on those makes a cobalt look like a porsche.

 

yeah maybe your right... and hey! stop acting like your all old. I really like reading your comments because you seem to speak from the heart wuth true wizdom and real insight

even if you were in your 60's you would still be young at heart for being on this site and posting in these forums.

not old, middle aged at best buddy. Dont beat yourself up over a number.
Doesnt really matter, were all family here. Well most of us atleast...

 

MAGIC!!

 

sensay--thx for the words. Yeah, not quite 60's yet-- 44 in a couple weeks. That's like an average age-- my body creaks and cracks like it's 60, I act like I'm a teen, so 44 is an average.

I do speak from experience, but hope i never preach much; and i'll even admit i have learned quite a bit from this site, even from "you know who".... jk

Plus you know what they say about family--there's a black sheep in every one... sorry killerx, the meds are kicking in; couldn't resist it. All said in humor....

I say if you all can keep up the debate about the cars yet keep them enjoyable for all parties, then let her rip. But as I've said before, love them or loathe them, these are just cars. Much more important things in life to get the blood boiling then these things. And hey, if an SI beats me this summer? Congrats. There's more on the horizon then one race...

 

nicely said brutha

 

Okay, if anyone believes what sensay wrote after what he said, what he did (changed his post, regardless of what he says) and after i still proved him wrong using his same link. Go ahead, believe him. Because the story would be completely different if i owned a tC and everyone knows it.

This thread is bs now, everyone mixes my words around to get what they want out of my post. Say i'm wrong, say i don't know what i'm talking about, but have fun with i/h/e that delivers 30whp+ on the tC wait..Being that this b16 apparently has 51whp, and by your displacement theory, all dyno's must be off and i must know nothing because the tC by that would have easy 60whp off i/h/e. Yep, i'm the one everyone goes to on this thread because i own a box. Great call, easy target i agree since everyone else drives a tC. Good way to be open minded, since its impossible to have knowledge of a car that you don't own. What do you know about any other car out there. After all, you own a tC and and most of you thats all you own. Ignorance.

Have fun on this thread, i know you guys are going to have some party agreeing the tC is some car that can beat tons of cars because they have less torque, all that torque must be getting to your head.

 

another 14 page thread down the drain.

Let's try to play nice in the sandbox from now on.

LOCKED.