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Old May 9, 2006 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by maximus96
if you DIY, its actually about $50 more...or $50 less if these sells for $400 instead of $300.

the cutoff looks like the manufacture was drunk during the design or construction or somebody is playing a horrible prank on everybody else. you'll be blinding everybody with the crazy twisted projectors. the cutoff is suppose to be flat across, not a V shape.
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maximus, I though the cutoff was suppose to be all one fluid line, not the way you can see the end of one beam before the start of the other. I understand how it steps up, but yours appears to step up twice.

not ragging on ya, just wondering if I'm thinking the wrong thing.
Old May 9, 2006 | 06:10 PM
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I noticed that too but its not as pronounced as the vertex
Old May 9, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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^^If he drove up a little closer to the wall it would be aligned I believe.

These projectors make me wanna go RAVING!

Old May 9, 2006 | 07:20 PM
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^^
i think i'm getting seizures
Old May 9, 2006 | 07:22 PM
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wiping drool of mouth**** (thanks for the seizure)


but i think maximus's projectors have that two step line is:

1) they are aimed to the right, like all cars in US should be

2) he is far from the wall...pull in a little closer and he would be straight
Old May 9, 2006 | 10:10 PM
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duh..didn't even think about the distance from the wall. thanks guys
Old May 9, 2006 | 11:14 PM
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and the pic is in a shop. ... lol
Old May 10, 2006 | 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 06tCguy
Originally Posted by maximus96
if you DIY, its actually about $50 more...or $50 less if these sells for $400 instead of $300.

the cutoff looks like the manufacture was drunk during the design or construction or somebody is playing a horrible prank on everybody else. you'll be blinding everybody with the crazy twisted projectors. the cutoff is suppose to be flat across, not a V shape.
FYI
maximus, I though the cutoff was suppose to be all one fluid line, not the way you can see the end of one beam before the start of the other. I understand how it steps up, but yours appears to step up twice.

not ragging on ya, just wondering if I'm thinking the wrong thing.
What you guys are seeing with maximus's lights is typical of color modded TSX, there is a flare that kicks up a bit, which is actually good for road signs, and the left of the beam tapers off a bit. Also on a stock TSX, the 2 steps would be aimed closer together, This is difficult to anticipate with the tC lights because if you aim them level, as in straight ahead like they were with the reflector, on the tC lights, what I've noticed is that they tend to project a couple degrees wider when you put them back on the car, Same thing happened to me with my valeos, both steps were clearly visible, although it did provide me with a wider beam. I solved the problem by doing a double step, in which I lined the bottom of the right step with the top of the left steep creating a continuous line between the two beams, but now 2 steps instead of one. That's cool with me because the higher step is off road anyway and it provides better light for road signs.


Now for these projectors from ebay. Now what I am about to say is going to come across kinda harsh but I am going to say it anyway and hope you will forgive me. It is a bit embarrassing to read how impressed the members of this forum are with this product and its cutoff. Now I will admit I was surprised with the sharpness. And I don't want to come off like I was never a HID noob myself. But this is precisely why people should do lots of research before deciding to go HID. Its funny because I can remember thinking maximus was cocky the way he would always post exactly what I'm about to say in all the HID Kit forums, but after doing the research I was thankful for that bit of doubt he placed in my head that kept me afraid of buying a kit long enough to do some thorough research. Thanx MAX! Anyway, its been said but both projectors are tilted inwards. But I don't think people are realizing how telling and important this little fact is.

#1 you will blind all oncoming traffic worse than you would have with a kit. The left side of that cutoff is so high above eye level, and the further away you are the higher it will go, worse than high beam. At least with a kit you have glare above eye level, which is less intense then what is shining on the road. With these projectors you will be projecting light directly into the faces of oncoming traffic.

#2 you will completely diminish the light directly ahead of you where you need it most. With the 2 cutoffs pointing inward, the light will shine down the road the furthest on the edges and the least far in the middle, which is exactly the opposite of what Headlights are intended to do. Of course you will probably attempt to correct this by aiming them higher and even further blinding onco0mming traffic.

#3 and most important of all, what does this incorrect positioning say about the manufacturer. Any idiot who designs a light will have as his first goal, a level cutoff. Even reflectors are able to achieve this. There is in no way the Department of Transportation saw those cutoffs and approved them. Therefore how can we trust a company that says there product is DOT approved and yet looks like this? If the average Joe retrofitter can look at 2 cutoffs and line them up, why would I pay hundreds to a company that sells headlights yet does not understand this concept. I don't know what is worse. A company whose lights are bad quality, so the projector alignment was not done properly on a couple of products. Or stupidity, a company who lined these projectors up purposely wrong because they thought it would be cool looking. Not to mention the beams do not seem wide at all.

That's just my 2 cents. Sorry for the long rant. As hot as this thread is, I'm sure by the time I finish typing 10 people would have already said this in 20 different post. Either way, I won't say the product is crap, because the cutoff is better than most. However, for that price you would think they would have done some research to know how to align projectors. To pay 400$ and still have to bake them to crack them open and rotate the projectors, might as well do a retro. Also pictures need to be taken at least 25 feet away. Unfortunately, this will probably only serve to magnify the problems of this projector. Save your money folks.
Old May 10, 2006 | 03:23 AM
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good post
yes i did say teh cut off was pretty decent, but i hafta agree with the man above about the alignment of the cut offs
im s ure people will be blinded to the fullest with these XD
Old May 10, 2006 | 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by BIGRKtC
Originally Posted by 06tCguy
Originally Posted by maximus96
if you DIY, its actually about $50 more...or $50 less if these sells for $400 instead of $300.

the cutoff looks like the manufacture was drunk during the design or construction or somebody is playing a horrible prank on everybody else. you'll be blinding everybody with the crazy twisted projectors. the cutoff is suppose to be flat across, not a V shape.
FYI
maximus, I though the cutoff was suppose to be all one fluid line, not the way you can see the end of one beam before the start of the other. I understand how it steps up, but yours appears to step up twice.

not ragging on ya, just wondering if I'm thinking the wrong thing.
What you guys are seeing with maximus's lights is typical of color modded TSX, there is a flare that kicks up a bit, which is actually good for road signs, and the left of the beam tapers off a bit. Also on a stock TSX, the 2 steps would be aimed closer together, This is difficult to anticipate with the tC lights because if you aim them level, as in straight ahead like they were with the reflector, on the tC lights, what I've noticed is that they tend to project a couple degrees wider when you put them back on the car, Same thing happened to me with my valeos, both steps were clearly visible, although it did provide me with a wider beam. I solved the problem by doing a double step, in which I lined the bottom of the right step with the top of the left steep creating a continuous line between the two beams, but now 2 steps instead of one. That's cool with me because the higher step is off road anyway and it provides better light for road signs.


Now for these projectors from ebay. Now what I am about to say is going to come across kinda harsh but I am going to say it anyway and hope you will forgive me. It is a bit embarrassing to read how impressed the members of this forum are with this product and its cutoff. Now I will admit I was surprised with the sharpness. And I don't want to come off like I was never a HID noob myself. But this is precisely why people should do lots of research before deciding to go HID. Its funny because I can remember thinking maximus was cocky the way he would always post exactly what I'm about to say in all the HID Kit forums, but after doing the research I was thankful for that bit of doubt he placed in my head that kept me afraid of buying a kit long enough to do some thorough research. Thanx MAX! Anyway, its been said but both projectors are tilted inwards. But I don't think people are realizing how telling and important this little fact is.

#1 you will blind all oncoming traffic worse than you would have with a kit. The left side of that cutoff is so high above eye level, and the further away you are the higher it will go, worse than high beam. At least with a kit you have glare above eye level, which is less intense then what is shining on the road. With these projectors you will be projecting light directly into the faces of oncoming traffic.

#2 you will completely diminish the light directly ahead of you where you need it most. With the 2 cutoffs pointing inward, the light will shine down the road the furthest on the edges and the least far in the middle, which is exactly the opposite of what Headlights are intended to do. Of course you will probably attempt to correct this by aiming them higher and even further blinding onco0mming traffic.

#3 and most important of all, what does this incorrect positioning say about the manufacturer. Any idiot who designs a light will have as his first goal, a level cutoff. Even reflectors are able to achieve this. There is in no way the Department of Transportation saw those cutoffs and approved them. Therefore how can we trust a company that says there product is DOT approved and yet looks like this? If the average Joe retrofitter can look at 2 cutoffs and line them up, why would I pay hundreds to a company that sells headlights yet does not understand this concept. I don't know what is worse. A company whose lights are bad quality, so the projector alignment was not done properly on a couple of products. Or stupidity, a company who lined these projectors up purposely wrong because they thought it would be cool looking. Not to mention the beams do not seem wide at all.

That's just my 2 cents. Sorry for the long rant. As hot as this thread is, I'm sure by the time I finish typing 10 people would have already said this in 20 different post. Either way, I won't say the product is crap, because the cutoff is better than most. However, for that price you would think they would have done some research to know how to align projectors. To pay 400$ and still have to bake them to crack them open and rotate the projectors, might as well do a retro. Also pictures need to be taken at least 25 feet away. Unfortunately, this will probably only serve to magnify the problems of this projector. Save your money folks.
Old May 10, 2006 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by maximus96
Originally Posted by BIGRKtC
Originally Posted by 06tCguy
Originally Posted by maximus96
if you DIY, its actually about $50 more...or $50 less if these sells for $400 instead of $300.

the cutoff looks like the manufacture was drunk during the design or construction or somebody is playing a horrible prank on everybody else. you'll be blinding everybody with the crazy twisted projectors. the cutoff is suppose to be flat across, not a V shape.
FYI
maximus, I though the cutoff was suppose to be all one fluid line, not the way you can see the end of one beam before the start of the other. I understand how it steps up, but yours appears to step up twice.

not ragging on ya, just wondering if I'm thinking the wrong thing.
What you guys are seeing with maximus's lights is typical of color modded TSX, there is a flare that kicks up a bit, which is actually good for road signs, and the left of the beam tapers off a bit. Also on a stock TSX, the 2 steps would be aimed closer together, This is difficult to anticipate with the tC lights because if you aim them level, as in straight ahead like they were with the reflector, on the tC lights, what I've noticed is that they tend to project a couple degrees wider when you put them back on the car, Same thing happened to me with my valeos, both steps were clearly visible, although it did provide me with a wider beam. I solved the problem by doing a double step, in which I lined the bottom of the right step with the top of the left steep creating a continuous line between the two beams, but now 2 steps instead of one. That's cool with me because the higher step is off road anyway and it provides better light for road signs.


Now for these projectors from ebay. Now what I am about to say is going to come across kinda harsh but I am going to say it anyway and hope you will forgive me. It is a bit embarrassing to read how impressed the members of this forum are with this product and its cutoff. Now I will admit I was surprised with the sharpness. And I don't want to come off like I was never a HID noob myself. But this is precisely why people should do lots of research before deciding to go HID. Its funny because I can remember thinking maximus was cocky the way he would always post exactly what I'm about to say in all the HID Kit forums, but after doing the research I was thankful for that bit of doubt he placed in my head that kept me afraid of buying a kit long enough to do some thorough research. Thanx MAX! Anyway, its been said but both projectors are tilted inwards. But I don't think people are realizing how telling and important this little fact is.

#1 you will blind all oncoming traffic worse than you would have with a kit. The left side of that cutoff is so high above eye level, and the further away you are the higher it will go, worse than high beam. At least with a kit you have glare above eye level, which is less intense then what is shining on the road. With these projectors you will be projecting light directly into the faces of oncoming traffic.

#2 you will completely diminish the light directly ahead of you where you need it most. With the 2 cutoffs pointing inward, the light will shine down the road the furthest on the edges and the least far in the middle, which is exactly the opposite of what Headlights are intended to do. Of course you will probably attempt to correct this by aiming them higher and even further blinding onco0mming traffic.

#3 and most important of all, what does this incorrect positioning say about the manufacturer. Any idiot who designs a light will have as his first goal, a level cutoff. Even reflectors are able to achieve this. There is in no way the Department of Transportation saw those cutoffs and approved them. Therefore how can we trust a company that says there product is DOT approved and yet looks like this? If the average Joe retrofitter can look at 2 cutoffs and line them up, why would I pay hundreds to a company that sells headlights yet does not understand this concept. I don't know what is worse. A company whose lights are bad quality, so the projector alignment was not done properly on a couple of products. Or stupidity, a company who lined these projectors up purposely wrong because they thought it would be cool looking. Not to mention the beams do not seem wide at all.

That's just my 2 cents. Sorry for the long rant. As hot as this thread is, I'm sure by the time I finish typing 10 people would have already said this in 20 different post. Either way, I won't say the product is crap, because the cutoff is better than most. However, for that price you would think they would have done some research to know how to align projectors. To pay 400$ and still have to bake them to crack them open and rotate the projectors, might as well do a retro. Also pictures need to be taken at least 25 feet away. Unfortunately, this will probably only serve to magnify the problems of this projector. Save your money folks.

This requires a DOUBLE and DOUBLE
thanx to this sort of review. i was highly considering on buying these first projectors for the tC but now, considering that workmanship should have a price. these proejctors shouldn't be worth no more than $250. I'll wait for something better.
Old May 10, 2006 | 01:16 PM
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nice!!!!!
Old May 10, 2006 | 05:18 PM
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I feel really bad like I just cost some company some money. Oh well, making sure the community is not taken advantage of is more important. My suggestion to those that really want Hid projectors, start researching and buying parts while you wait for umnitza or some other companies to provide better options. If a decent set of projectors actually does come out, you can unload any parts that you purchased on ebay really quickly. I've sold HID projectors I wasn't using on ebay before and none of them have gone a full 24 hours without being snatched up. At the same time you will be so much more knowledgable, and maybe gain the confidence to try to retro yourselves. Good luck!
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hmm... im finally getting my damn headlights today
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^^be sure to post some cutoff pics
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And an unbiased review, lol. I am sure you will considering thats what you started out to do, until your order was postponed.
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Make sure they are not slanted inward

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lol yeah.. i will tonight...

but i will be doing a halogen review for today, unless i can buy another replacement bulb for my HID(which i knw this headlight wont be taking 9006 bulb.) which i doubt i can find a store.

^_^ ill keep you guys posted. im at work right now and i cant WAIT to get home. i'll make a review about my thoughts in this product. using a normal halogen bulb. and when i get my replacement HID bulb ill do review on that too. and see if i can align these lights too
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See if they are up +down aimable like the oem ones to.
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yea will do

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