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Old May 29, 2006 | 08:22 AM
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ok well.. here's what I JUST found..

well.. it's juss a thought right now..


You know how HID bulbs have this wire thing next to the bulb then connects on the top of the bulb.

ok here we go.. I know someone is gonna correct me and prolly bash.. so bash away...


I'm not really a light or bulb fanatic... so here's my guess.



as you can see the HID bulb on the bottom and the wire thing next to the bulb itself. Now I noticed on my stock headlight with my 9006 HID bulb, when set the white wire thing is on the bottom...

But when the bulb is set on the aftermarket headlight on the projector, instead the wire being under the bulb, it's on top of it. Which no way to twist it so i can be on the bottom. Now.. correct me if i'm wrong, If you point a flashlight to the wall with the light on, then with your finger and block some of the light. It's gonna show a dark spot on the wall...

Now my guess is... I think that wire is causing that dark spot
Old May 29, 2006 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by L4rry_B1rd
me and someoen else were talking over AIM about that spot on the OP pics. We couldnt figure out why there was no light in those spots. Hope you can figure out whats wrong, and honestly, those pics of the light output look awful. But good luck to you anyways.

VERY awful.. that's why im trying to find out the cause of that dark spot... then i'll fix it
Old May 29, 2006 | 03:39 PM
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I seriously cannot believe anyone would pay money for this.... you might as well just drive around without your lights on. I still say forget about baking them and return them for being defective, that is just a completely pathetic attempt that deserves to be smashed with a hammer.

Old May 29, 2006 | 03:43 PM
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back to the point of these headlights, they are NOT designed for hid's and specifically said in their instructions. with halogens, they look fine.
Old May 29, 2006 | 06:59 PM
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yikes, hids in those look like ... idunno, dont wanna sound mean but it doesnt look so nice.

they are starting to sell other stuff along w/ those lights now. i've seen a couple on ebay that comes with a front lip kit or another one with hids

yikes :X i rather save up for umnitzas :D
Old May 29, 2006 | 07:09 PM
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yep yep juss get yourself an aftermarket halogen bulb, possibly super white... and you're set. You ouput will be good
Old May 29, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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SOMEBODY MAKE THESE HEADLIGHTS WORK PROPERLY WITH HIDS!!!!!
Old May 29, 2006 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mspecht
SOMEBODY MAKE THESE HEADLIGHTS WORK PROPERLY WITH HIDS!!!!!
they are not made for hids, so good luck.
Old May 29, 2006 | 09:04 PM
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I think the headlights themselves look pretty nice. Of course they look a little cheap--I don't know why anyone is surprised by that. Aftermarket headlights usually are. Sure, you can spend 500.00 to a few thousand retrofitting HID projectors into the OEM housing, but some of us don't have the skill to do that. And some of us like to stay DOT legal.

Unfortunately, the two little 'running LEDs' don't really belong where they are. They look out of place. The side reflector is too small, for no reason--it would have looked better if they'd left it like stock. The turn signal is out of place, and if they were going to make the eyebrow of the light light-up, do it full-on. Don't stick one tiny bulb waaaay over in one corner and expect it to light the whole eyebrow.

I would love to see a pair of projectors like this, with the reflector and turn signal just like stock. Make them LED's if you want, but why add extra junk in that doesn't really belong?

Before anyone flames me, I'd consider getting these myself. I think they look nice. They aren't perfect, but for 350.00 shipped (check Yahoo shopping), what the heck does everyone expect?

I don't mean to start another flame war, but it seems to me that some of the folks on this site don't take money in to account when they look at a product.

"Hey! Those 400.00 headlights don't look as nice or work as well as the ones I see on Mercedes Benz and BMW cars! The cutoff line isn't as clean! What worthless crap!" Is not a valid line of reasoning.
Old May 29, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mspecht
SOMEBODY MAKE THESE HEADLIGHTS WORK PROPERLY WITH HIDS!!!!!

well if you can open them up and fix the projector inside and find out to rotate the bulb, then you can fix it
Old May 29, 2006 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Nakioki
Originally Posted by mspecht
SOMEBODY MAKE THESE HEADLIGHTS WORK PROPERLY WITH HIDS!!!!!

well if you can open them up and fix the projector inside and find out to rotate the bulb, then you can fix it
might have to change the projector inside to a projector designed for hid's
Old May 30, 2006 | 01:23 AM
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"THAT THING" is a return wire, that is not causing the black spot

is that the bulb you are using?

If you are using the top bulb with that black paint, then that black spot is caused by that black paint

let me know
Old May 30, 2006 | 01:30 AM
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hmm? No.. i juss got that picture somewhere in google...

-.- thats not even H1 bulb
Old May 30, 2006 | 01:57 AM
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well im not sure what bulb u are using, im not reading every post in there...

can i see a pic of hte bulb you are using.. better yet, the bulb you are using.. does it have a black painted spot on the top tip? my guess would be that
Old May 30, 2006 | 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by raWr215
"THAT THING" is a return wire, that is not causing the black spot

is that the bulb you are using?

If you are using the top bulb with that black paint, then that black spot is caused by that black paint

let me know
Actually nakioki could be right. The return wire should never cause a blind spot however when in the incorrect position it can effect output. The return wire should always be in the 6:00 position. Whit real HID if you take a projector and turn it upside down so that the return wire is in the 12:00 position the lght output gets really yellow. Also in these projectors, when the return wire is in the 12:00 positon then it is above the cuttoff shield where the light comes out. Therefore it can block some of the light which comes from behind the shield. If you look at the pic I posted earlier of the inside of the projector, you see where the cutoff comes from the shield. The bulb shines be hind the shield and if a small portion of it is blocked on top by the return it possibly can cause a blind spot.

Problem is that this cannot be fixed. It is the risk you run when using reased hid bulbs that come with kit. A D2S bulb is designed to always fit with the return pointing down, but when you cut it off of a D2S base and attach it to a H1 or 9006, who knows what orientation it will end up with. This doesn 't matter in a reflector because light spills everywhere anyway.

I think this is why people are pushing for umnitza to make a D2S version of their projectors so people don't have to bother with these cheaply made kits and can stick with oem bulbs which cost more than half the price at 75$ per pair.
Old May 30, 2006 | 02:53 AM
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yeah, it's funny how im testing my projectors and stuff, i rotate my bulb 180 degrees and everything turns yellow

any idea why does this happen

and btw, if you guys get HID kits... they should always have a return wire, and as Big said, it should always be facing down (6:00 position), otherwise, don't get it!
Old May 30, 2006 | 05:41 AM
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this question kinda doesnt stay on-topic .. BUT imma ask anyways cuz i dont like creating new posts :X haha

i know phyically the difference between d2s and hid bulbs and how they look but do d2s use a different ballast or how does it get set up? or is the difference only the bulbs?
Old May 30, 2006 | 11:16 AM
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d2s is a HID bulb
OEM uses these bulbs... i believe almost always? Aftermarket refers to their kit as "plug-n-play" because they make their bulbs to fit headlights with out HIDs (9006 for example)

http://faqlight.carpassion.info/headlamp-faq.htm for all your questions about HIDs, i learned just about everything there, hopefully it'll be useful for ya
Old May 30, 2006 | 04:25 PM
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hey rawr my bulb is a HID bulb atm... juss like the pic i showed you earlier. cept thats not it. and NO black spot anywhere...

The stock halogen is a normal h1 bulb also with NO black spot...

i could be right then again i cant... thanks bigrk. you know more HID stuff than me.
Old May 30, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by raWr215
yeah, it's funny how im testing my projectors and stuff, i rotate my bulb 180 degrees and everything turns yellow

any idea why does this happen

and btw, if you guys get HID kits... they should always have a return wire, and as Big said, it should always be facing down (6:00 position), otherwise, don't get it!

i think those are cheap HIDs if they have no return wires haha... other than that if you put the bulb in the slot IT HAS to twist down to lock on n e wayz.



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