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Old May 21, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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i got mobilehid n i love them .. i got da 5000k perfect color n lighting .. comes wit relay already on da harness .. get it !!
Old May 21, 2007 | 07:17 PM
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How are peoples experience with the 8000k in the rain/snow or even fog. I love the color output but it wont justify if I cant see anything.
Old May 21, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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i ordered mine from operatic for $140. I haven't had any problems but if I ever do he stands behind his product. Customer service after the purchase is important to me if anything should go wrong.
Old May 21, 2007 | 11:04 PM
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trust me 6k is the way to go... i can actually see when its raining so thats a good thing...trust go with 6k or even 5k which gives you a higher lumen output.
Old May 21, 2007 | 11:07 PM
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i have 6000k and can see just fine and they look really nice too. i think anything higher would cut down the visibility a ton.
Old May 21, 2007 | 11:43 PM
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I love the fact that the 8000k gives off a tremendous blue, which is a theme in my car. I want it to stand out a little more than the average car but not to sacrifice anything else.
Old May 22, 2007 | 12:51 AM
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mattieg, I've PM'ed you a discount code. I look forward to doing business with you.
Old May 22, 2007 | 02:49 AM
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Ok after much deciding im going with oznium... I always liked Phil's stuff. BUT what do you prefer 6k or 8k... can you see pretty well with 8k in rain/snow????
Old May 22, 2007 | 02:55 AM
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how much amp does the relay for HID's need? I got some and they don't work without the relays so i need to know which kind to buy
Old May 22, 2007 | 03:18 AM
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about 12 amps each ballast. at start up
Old May 22, 2007 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Ankryth
how much amp does the relay for HID's need? I got some and they don't work without the relays so i need to know which kind to buy
They don't work without the relays? This doesnt make any sense.

Relays are not going to make them magically work.
Old May 22, 2007 | 09:00 PM
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Ya like Phil said you really dont need any relays. A relay basically can convert a small amount of energy to a larger amount BUT the transformer on the HID kit is basically a relay. Thats what makes the HID a HID (high intensity discharge.)
Old May 22, 2007 | 10:50 PM
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wow not at all, u need a better wiring get one relay some fuse holers and fuses,

main power from battery 12 ga. wire fused with a 30 amp fuse.

14 ga wire from power side of the stock low beam switch no fuse activation wire.

12 ga ground to fender

12 ga wire from the output side of the relay to the ballasts , use on wire split the at abut 8 inches away and put in two fuse holders 15 amp each.

ground the ballasts at the fenders.

some tape, zip ties and wirloom, one relay three fuse holders, some spade connects(male and fe male) and two boxes of fuses u have a set up that will never melt of burn up your stock wiring. ~20-25 bucks is not alot for a piece of mind. and melted stock wires on a ~20g car.

although i do not suggest hid lights in a none hid housing, but if your gonna do it atleast be safe.


side not had a friend with a ford whos hid's would not work unless the car was started, the stock wires couldnt pull enough juice.
Old May 23, 2007 | 12:10 AM
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All of that isnt really neccessary. But if you want to do it got for it. I think its a waste and just makes more of a mess in the engine bay. I have done electrical for a very long time. Look at the stock amperage of a regular bulb and compare it to the amperage of an HID. Im sticking with Phil on this one where I dont need a relay.
Old May 23, 2007 | 12:38 AM
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P(watts)= I(current) x E(voltage
p= 55 w low
I= amps>?
E= 12v

4.58 amps
so the stock low beams pulls 4.5amps the xenon on start up pulls about 12 amps...

that is 3x as much power.
Old May 23, 2007 | 12:47 AM
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But then what about the current that the stock wire can handle. What gauge is it?
Old May 23, 2007 | 01:56 AM
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unless i miss sized it ,16 ga. or was it 18gauge


US National Electrical Code
maximum Amperage

18gauge -10amps
16 gauge-13amps
14 gauge - 18 amps
12gauge- 25amps

that is what i found.
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