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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BSP_5c10n
I have the same thing, driver's side. Wierd.
same thing as me? or the ones on the rear. because I dont have dents on the rear. just the front driver's side. i took some pics but still have to upload them. i'll do that tonight. =]
Old Jun 26, 2006 | 09:05 PM
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yeah the majority of tC's have those dents. usually just one tho. i have one under my rear quarter glass and every tC i've seen has it too. if not there then on the hatch. im sure toyota knows about this since the paint is perfectly formed over the dent without a blemish. i think it adds character. ....From Japan, With Love! Thanks Tastumaru, Hiroshi, Ryo. love u guys!
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 12:12 AM
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Well, I don't think its natural. I notice things like that, and I didn't have it when I got it.
I just got back from a dealership, and neither of the cars there have it on either side.
I talked to a dealer, and he wants to blame it on my S-techs. So I need some proof of people who have the dent with unmodified suspensions.
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 12:16 AM
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My car=proof.
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 12:18 AM
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Thanks. Thats all I need.

I plan on calling toyota tomorrow and taking it to a different dealer to see what they say.
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 01:39 AM
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I think this case has a lot to do with the common characteristics of a hatchback car.
Especially when this car's chassis is unibody in construction. Usually, there's a trunk support brace behind the back seat on other cars. However, this car's fold down back seat design eliminates that support brace. On turns, especially over bumps, there's alot of body flex in the back. I noticed this because my hatch lid rattles when I turn into bumps. I figured the hatch body alignment flexes while the trunk lid doesn't flex, causing rattles between the body and my trunk lid. This construction characteristic possibly caused minor buckles in some rear qtr panals. To add to this characteristic, panoramic roof contruction yields even more body flex and more rattles.

I wish I can go back to the first day when I got my TC and get the rear strut support brace before rack'n the miles up. Don't know if it will help but it'll be better than nothing at all.
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 11:35 AM
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Well either way, this car doesn't weigh 3000 for nothing, and it's not right for ANY car to start obtaining dents in the body as a part of natural driving. Not I don't know if that brace would have done anything or not either, but we shouldn't have to pay to find out. Toyota should have looked at that when they built the car if they knew they had to eliminate the typical rear seat brace you mention.

I'd be ok with the fact that my suspension mods caused it, but my friend noticed 1 dent before we dropped his car, and there are people here that had/have it with unmoodified suspensions.
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Joes06tC
Originally Posted by BSP_5c10n
I have the same thing, driver's side. Wierd.
same thing as me? or the ones on the rear. because I dont have dents on the rear. just the front driver's side. i took some pics but still have to upload them. i'll do that tonight. =]
I have one "fluctuation" in the reflection of the paint near the rear passenger side of the car. It's not a dent I can feel but you can notice it especially after a wash/wax and you look at the reflection. I thought something might have bumped my car like a rubber ball or something. Something that doesn't cause a scratch or anything.
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 11:24 PM
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Today I talked to a service manager at a local dealership. he stated that nothing aftermarket would have caused it, so he thinks its a valid issue, albeit one he's dumbfounded by. He immediately wanted to get Toyota Corporate involved, so at this point, all he could do is speculate.

He thinks that since the dent looks as if it's pulled in, he believes theres a spot weld on the inside that for some reason pulling the inside of the body. My idea is something that someone in this thread stated. That spot weld may be tied to a support beam that is attached to the crossmember. That would be there because there's no support behind the rear seats near the top. It makes sense, and everything lines up. However, he did mention that it isn't natural, and that no tC he's seen or touched had it, nor did any of the tC's on the lot that had it. It seems as if it is occuring as part of everyday driving.

One thing he stressed on is that there appears to be no external damage, and if it was a sudden thing, the paint would have cracked. It happened over time.

So at this point, I'm going to do 2 things. A, check out the area behind the dent, and B, await a call from Toyota Corporate on this.
Old Jun 28, 2006 | 06:14 AM
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I dunno what ALL of you people are talk'in about..Cuz I went and checkout my tC just now and looked Very, Very closely and not a vertical looking dent at all....And looked at the headlights as well..there are NO gaps and the right one does NOT stick out further at all...lol...So I must be Lucky??

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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by tcality
I think this case has a lot to do with the common characteristics of a hatchback car.
Especially when this car's chassis is unibody in construction. Usually, there's a trunk support brace behind the back seat on other cars. However, this car's fold down back seat design eliminates that support brace. On turns, especially over bumps, there's alot of body flex in the back. I noticed this because my hatch lid rattles when I turn into bumps. I figured the hatch body alignment flexes while the trunk lid doesn't flex, causing rattles between the body and my trunk lid. This construction characteristic possibly caused minor buckles in some rear qtr panals. To add to this characteristic, panoramic roof contruction yields even more body flex and more rattles.

I wish I can go back to the first day when I got my TC and get the rear strut support brace before rack'n the miles up. Don't know if it will help but it'll be better than nothing at all.
What are you talkin about cuz its a Hatchback??.....lol
I had a Honda Civic Hatch NEVER had one problem w/ integrity of the body at ALL...Now I have the tC...Dont have any body integrity problem which is stated in this theard....So, its NOT just cuz its a Hatch!
Old Jun 28, 2006 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TeeCizzle
Originally Posted by tcality
I think this case has a lot to do with the common characteristics of a hatchback car.
Especially when this car's chassis is unibody in construction. Usually, there's a trunk support brace behind the back seat on other cars. However, this car's fold down back seat design eliminates that support brace. On turns, especially over bumps, there's alot of body flex in the back. I noticed this because my hatch lid rattles when I turn into bumps. I figured the hatch body alignment flexes while the trunk lid doesn't flex, causing rattles between the body and my trunk lid. This construction characteristic possibly caused minor buckles in some rear qtr panals. To add to this characteristic, panoramic roof contruction yields even more body flex and more rattles.

I wish I can go back to the first day when I got my TC and get the rear strut support brace before rack'n the miles up. Don't know if it will help but it'll be better than nothing at all.
What are you talkin about cuz its a Hatchback??.....lol
I had a Honda Civic Hatch NEVER had one problem w/ integrity of the body at ALL...Now I have the tC...Dont have any body integrity problem which is stated in this theard....So, its NOT just cuz its a Hatch!
Right, but it's a hatchback with fold down rear seats and a panoramic roof construction. I made my statements from my experience with my other car (1989 Dodge Daytona hatchback). It also had body flex around the hatch area when turning into bumps or driveways.
Old Jun 29, 2006 | 12:22 AM
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by tcality
Originally Posted by TeeCizzle
Originally Posted by tcality
I think this case has a lot to do with the common characteristics of a hatchback car.
Especially when this car's chassis is unibody in construction. Usually, there's a trunk support brace behind the back seat on other cars. However, this car's fold down back seat design eliminates that support brace. On turns, especially over bumps, there's alot of body flex in the back. I noticed this because my hatch lid rattles when I turn into bumps. I figured the hatch body alignment flexes while the trunk lid doesn't flex, causing rattles between the body and my trunk lid. This construction characteristic possibly caused minor buckles in some rear qtr panals. To add to this characteristic, panoramic roof contruction yields even more body flex and more rattles.

I wish I can go back to the first day when I got my TC and get the rear strut support brace before rack'n the miles up. Don't know if it will help but it'll be better than nothing at all.

What are you talkin about cuz its a Hatchback??.....lol
I had a Honda Civic Hatch NEVER had one problem w/ integrity of the body at ALL...Now I have the tC...Dont have any body integrity problem which is stated in this theard....So, its NOT just cuz its a Hatch!
Right, but it's a hatchback with fold down rear seats and a panoramic roof construction. I made my statements from my experience with my other car (1989 Dodge Daytona hatchback). It also had body flex around the hatch area when turning into bumps or driveways.
So, what are you exactly still trying to say though??...My Honda Hatch had rear fold down seats also....I never had any problems!....PLUS you a Dodge (no offensive) Dodge's are CRAP cars anywayz.....Thats why you had that problem..
One thing....I am sure that the Toyota Engineers already thought about how to make the tC's body integrity solid w/ a panoramic roof...
Old Jun 29, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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still no pictures....
Old Jun 29, 2006 | 12:00 PM
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I took a picture, but the imperfection is so minor that it didn't even show up.
Old Jun 29, 2006 | 03:37 PM
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I just went out and looked and I have none of the above listed problems. I guess I'm a lucky one too?

I have hotchkiss springs and anti-sways.
Old Jun 30, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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do not have any thing described as well
Old Jun 30, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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Ditto here. One ding on both doors in almost the same identical spot. I thought someone opened their car door and dented - both sides on the same day. Someone should find out why this has happened. Not a major deal, but seems like more then severalpeople have similar issues from different dealers and in different states.
Old Jun 30, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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I must be unlucky because my driver's side headlight sticks out more than the other side does, and also I notice gaps under the headlight. This bothers me so much! I'm kind of a perfectionist but come on! This is a new car! I took it to the dealer to ask them about it and they said they can adjust it, but the have to take a bunch of stuff apart and it might take awhile. I didnt feel like waiting, and who knows they might mess up something else in the process so I said forget it and left. I check out all the other tCs on the lot and none of the headlights stuck out and had gaps like mine. Has anyone taken their car in to get this corrected? I just feel bad that I paid so much and waited so long for a car that is deformed (in a way).



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