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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 06:05 PM
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what happens when scion issues a TSB? sorry im a noob
Old Mar 21, 2005 | 06:15 PM
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You take it into the Service Department at your dealership and they make the fix for free.
Old Mar 21, 2005 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolo
You take it into the Service Department at your dealership and they make the fix for free.
I am not sure if the Service center has to fix any/all TSBs. I might be mistaken but I thought I read that many months ago either in a forum or article. BUT if the dealership has any credibility, then they should fix a known issue that has a TSB.

I just hope Scion issues a TSB for this rattle.

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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 06:45 PM
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Me too. I just emailed Scion the link to the findings that I had the other day. I don't really expect anything to come of it, but it couldn't hurt.
Old Mar 21, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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Im going to have to go and get some of the felt stuff and wrap all those wires cause i still have a slight rattle in the back. NOW all of a sudden my roof is making loud rattle noises and the noise goes away somewhat if i open the sunroof WTF i had tha tpoping noise and they finally fixed that, then the roof would rattle when it was open and i had alot of bass going so my friend said u just need to tighten this screw. Now something else in that roof is making a very LOUD noise and sounds like its falling apart. I also have squeeking noises comming from my glove box, i notice if i hold the door closed with my hand while driving that noise stops. also someting in my passengerside door is making lots of racket. help
Old Mar 21, 2005 | 07:10 PM
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I've got the same problem with the glove box. I think that getting some thick rubber stoppers should help. I'm going to try that soon, and will report my findings.
Old Sep 3, 2005 | 04:29 PM
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Hey just in case anyone is still researching this problem, I can confirm that welding may be to blame. After 4 visits to my dealer (which included replacing the rear roof panel once) they ended up sending the car to a body shop which had to redo 5 spot welds. My rattle sounded like the hatch from up front, but was really coming from the roof which connects the B-pillars. If anyone wants more details, I can post the writeup given to me by the dealer.
Old Sep 3, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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at least were fixin' hatch rattles guys... and not suspension problems like the 350Z, or transmitions like chryslers, or any other wide spread major engine/tranny problems that other companies incur, whew!
Old Sep 3, 2005 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by WaldorfScion
at least were fixin' hatch rattles guys... and not suspension problems like the 350Z, or transmitions like chryslers, or any other wide spread major engine/tranny problems that other companies incur, whew!
There is some truth to this, but I'm hardly impressed by "it could be worse!" claims. New car buyers should never have to take their cars into the shop for days or weeks at a time within the first year or the first 10 thousand miles.

My experience has been bad enough that my next car will definitely not be a scion or toyota. The fact that the dealer had to send my car to a body shop to have welds redone tells me something about the manufacturing and design of the cars. The dealer was also careless enough to leave my car outside over a weekend (when I specifically asked that they park the car inside) and, lo and behold, the license plates were stolen. My door rattles, and my roof rattles. I can pay a lot less than 16 grand for that kind of "quality" and "service."
Old Sep 3, 2005 | 07:19 PM
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sorry about your expierence, but dont shoot yourself in the foot by swearing off all toyotas, it is a very well established company in quality and reliability, keep an open mind, sorry again tom
Old Sep 3, 2005 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by tom
Originally Posted by WaldorfScion
at least were fixin' hatch rattles guys... and not suspension problems like the 350Z, or transmitions like chryslers, or any other wide spread major engine/tranny problems that other companies incur, whew!
There is some truth to this, but I'm hardly impressed by "it could be worse!" claims. New car buyers should never have to take their cars into the shop for days or weeks at a time within the first year or the first 10 thousand miles.

My experience has been bad enough that my next car will definitely not be a scion or toyota. The fact that the dealer had to send my car to a body shop to have welds redone tells me something about the manufacturing and design of the cars. The dealer was also careless enough to leave my car outside over a weekend (when I specifically asked that they park the car inside) and, lo and behold, the license plates were stolen. My door rattles, and my roof rattles. I can pay a lot less than 16 grand for that kind of "quality" and "service."
Sorry but I have to side with Tom on this one . I to have been back to the dealership over various issues ranging from paint defects (car been repainted) as well as squeeks , rattles and interior pieces falling off . Yeah your right it could be worse but that only goes only so far . Granted there might be tC's out there that suffer no problems what so ever . Those will probably go to 250 thousand miles and still be as well built as the day they rolled out of the factory . My car on the other hand only has 5500 miles on it and my faith in it is fading .
Old Sep 3, 2005 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by WaldorfScion
sorry about your expierence, but dont shoot yourself in the foot by swearing off all toyotas, it is a very well established company in quality and reliability, keep an open mind, sorry again tom
Toyota does have a stellar reputation, but I'm not going to judge them through other people's experiences, I'm going to judge them through my own. A better lesson here is probably "don't buy the first model year of a car," but I let myself fall into the "it's a Toyota!" trap, which obviously burned me.
Old Sep 3, 2005 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TCRS1_0
Granted there might be tC's out there that suffer no problems what so ever . Those will probably go to 250 thousand miles and still be as well built as the day they rolled out of the factory . My car on the other hand only has 5500 miles on it and my faith in it is fading .
I think this is what makes it extra frustrating, because I really loved the car when it was quiet going down the road and I could get it in after work and enjoy the ride home. I like the way the car feels, I like the way it looks, I feel I paid a fair price for it, and I really want it be a car that'll last me a billion miles trouble free.
Old Sep 6, 2005 | 08:42 PM
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Just got back from the dealership that performed the hatch rattle tsb. Waste of my fken time. It made "0" difference. It rattled on the way out the dealership parking lot. I hate you SCION!!!!! I hope the whole freaken scion company goes under. I WANT MY MONEY BACK YOU STUPID CROOKS!!!!!

(I think I may be turning into the new "Cybergypsy" for those who remember that notorious poster froma few months back. Now I see where he/she got all his/her rage from. What was it she use to say? TC = Total Crap)
Old Sep 6, 2005 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain_tC
Just got back from the dealership that performed the hatch rattle tsb. Waste of my fken time. It made "0" difference. It rattled on the way out the dealership parking lot.)
Sorry man. I've been pretty ____ed off about this whole thing too (other parts of my car still rattle), but try not to sweat it just yet. It's a hassle, but call ahead and tell them you want a loaner car, drop the car off for the day, and make sure you have the tech go for a test drive with you. Our cars have defects, but you may luck out and have a dealership that will try to fix it for you. After all, it's just billable hours for them and for you it's under warranty, even if your time and hassle are not.
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by tom
After all, it's just billable hours for them and for you it's under warranty, even if your time and hassle are not.
Speak it brother SPEAK IT
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 02:30 AM
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My rattle appears to be the loose push pins that hold the light assembly together. I havnt had a chance to take it apart and look but you can see them looking up into the hatch from the bottom. TSB is similar to a recall but not saftey related (its annoying and nothing more) and they do not have to tell you about it if they dont want.
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 05:01 AM
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My Scion can rattle all it wants if it ever does happen (so far no rattles except from my luggage cover clip, which I fixed this labor day weekend). As long as it never decide to imitate a late model VW!. My 05 FM tC has been a joy to own since day one of ownership! :bow:
If you guys want to know what a piece of junk a car could be, buy one of Volkswagen's products. I guarantee, you would be running back to Scion/Toyota and begging for your Scion back with all it's rattles!
If you guys think hatch rattles are such big problems, wait till you get a ride in a VW and the engine quits in the middle of the freeway at night while going 70 MPH! I know, I owned one and it happned to me! Not even a week old, 223 miles! No engine, no boost to brakes, no power assist to steering and in the fast lane of a curvy part of the freeway with minimal service shoulders!!! lucky to be alive! THAT'S when you get rid of your car right away and start wondering if the whole car is made to blow up in a couple of weeks after you bought it.
And that was just the first of problem after problem with the car, some of them definitely dangerous problems.
So, my 05 FM tC can rattle all it wants if it ever decides to....Anyway, I got so used to riding a very rattle filled car, my former VW Passat! At least the Scion won't try to kill me!

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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by emiller
My rattle appears to be the loose push pins that hold the light assembly together. I havnt had a chance to take it apart and look but you can see them looking up into the hatch from the bottom. TSB is similar to a recall but not saftey related (its annoying and nothing more) and they do not have to tell you about it if they dont want.
Can you post some pics of exactly placement of the push pins in the light assembly? And are you noticing the rattle on both sides of the car. Most of us notice on the very back of the hatch; passenger side.

Thanks.

Kevin
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by fearturtle44
Originally Posted by emiller
My rattle appears to be the loose push pins that hold the light assembly together. I havnt had a chance to take it apart and look but you can see them looking up into the hatch from the bottom. TSB is similar to a recall but not saftey related (its annoying and nothing more) and they do not have to tell you about it if they dont want.
Can you post some pics of exactly placement of the push pins in the light assembly? And are you noticing the rattle on both sides of the car. Most of us notice on the very back of the hatch; passenger side.

Thanks.

Kevin
Thats exactly it! Rear passenger side. It sometimes almost sounds like its the glass itself rattling. I know my car probably wont die on me or anything, but the noises are so aggravating. A good comparison would be like trying to sleep but that stupid annoying bird chirps right outside your window the entire night. Its a constant noise that I hear everytime I am in my car. And dont even get me started on the dash noises!



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