are 08 civic si and 08 scion tc in the same class?
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Yea turbo tc or sc tc will blow away the SI
supercharged tc + pulley + 3 inch exhaust gotta be like 220 hp to the ground
To make the tc = to the stock SI I would think you would need at least ... headers, catback exhaust, s-pipe, injen cai, nst underdrive pulley, camcon with a good tune ....
supercharged tc + pulley + 3 inch exhaust gotta be like 220 hp to the ground
To make the tc = to the stock SI I would think you would need at least ... headers, catback exhaust, s-pipe, injen cai, nst underdrive pulley, camcon with a good tune ....
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Fiber
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Fiber or fibre[1] is a class of materials that are continuous filaments or are in discrete elongated pieces, similar to lengths of thread. They are very important in the biology of both plants and animals, for holding tissues together. Human uses for fibers are diverse. They can be spun into filaments, string or rope, used as a component of composite materials, or matted into sheets to make products such as paper or felt. Fibers are often used in the manufacture of other materials. Synthetic fibers can be produced very cheaply and in large amounts compared to natural fibers, but natural fibers enjoy some benefits, such as comfort, over their man-made counterparts.
Contents [hide]
1 Natural fibers
2 Man-made fibers
2.1 Mineral fibers
2.2 Polymer fibers
2.3 Microfibers
3 See also
4 Notes
[edit] Natural fibers
Natural fibers include those produced by plants, animals, and geological processes. They are biodegradable over time. They can be classified according to their origin:
Vegetable fibers are generally based on arrangements of cellulose, often with lignin: examples include cotton, hemp, jute, flax, ramie, and sisal. Plant fibers are employed in the manufacture of paper and textile (cloth), and dietary fiber is an important component of human nutrition.
Wood fiber, distinguished from vegetable fiber, is from tree sources. Forms include groundwood, thermomechanical pulp (TMP) and bleached or unbleached kraft or sulfite pulps. Kraft and sulfite, also called sulphite, refer to the type of pulping process used to remove the lignin bonding the original wood structure, thus freeing the fibers for use in paper and engineered wood products such as fiberboard.
Animal fibers consist largely of particular proteins. Instances are spider silk, sinew, catgut, wool and hair such as cashmere, mohair and angora, fur such as sheepskin, rabbit, mink, fox, beaver, etc.
Mineral fibers comprise asbestos. Asbestos is the only naturally occurring long mineral fiber. Short, fiber-like minerals include wollastinite, attapulgite and halloysite.
[edit] Man-made fibers
Synthetic or man-made fibers generally come from synthetic materials such as petrochemicals. But some types of synthetic fibers are manufactured from natural cellulose, including rayon, modal, and the more recently developed Lyocell. Cellulose-based fibers are of two types, regenerated or pure cellulose such as from the cupro-ammonium process and modified or derivitized cellulose such as the cellulose acetates.
[edit] Mineral fibers
Fiberglass, made from specific glass, and optical fiber, made from purified natural quartz, are also man-made fibers that come from natural raw materials.
Metallic fibers can be drawn from ductile metals such as copper, gold or silver and extruded or deposited from more brittle ones, such as nickel, aluminum or iron.
Carbon fibers are often based on carbonised polymers, but the end product is pure carbon.
There are two sorts of man-made fibers: synthetic fibers and regenerated fibers.
[edit] Polymer fibers
Polymer fibers are a subset of man-made fibers, which are based on synthetic chemicals (often from petrochemical sources) rather than arising from natural materials by a purely physical process. Such fibers are made from:
polyamide nylon,
PET or PBT polyester
phenol-formaldehyde (PF)
polyvinyl alcohol fiber (PVOH)
polyvinyl chloride fiber (PVC)
polyolefins (PP and PE)
acrylic polymers, pure polyacrylonitrile PAN fibers are used to make carbon fiber by roasting them in a low oxygen environment. Traditional acrylic fiber is used more often as a synthetic replacement for wool. Carbon fibers and PF fibers are noted as two resin-based fibers that are not thermoplastic, most others can be melted.
Aromatic polyamids (aramids) such as Twaron, Kevlar and Nomex thermally degrade at high temperatures and do not melt. These fibers have strong bonding between polymer chains
polyethylene (PE), eventually with extremely long chains / HMPE (e.g. Dyneema or Spectra).
Elastomers can even be used, e.g. spandex although urethane fibers are starting to replace spandex technology.
polyurethane fiber
Coextruded fibers have two distinct polymers forming the fiber, usually as a core-sheath or side-by-side. Coated fibers exist such as nickel-coated to provide static elimination, silver-coated to provide anti-bacterial properties and aluminum-coated to provide RF deflection for radar chaff. Radar chaff is actually a spool of continuous glass tow that has been aluminum coated. An aircraft-mounted high speed cutter chops it up as it spews from a moving aircraft to confuse radar signals.
[edit] Microfibers
Micro fibers in textiles refer to sub-denier fiber (such as polyester drawn to 0.5 dn). Denier and Detex are two measurements of fiber yield based on weight and length. If the fiber density is known you also have a fiber diameter, otherwise it is simpler to measure diameters in micrometers. Microfibers in technical fibers refer to ultra fine fibers (glass or meltblown thermoplastics) often used in filtration. Newer fiber designs include extruding fiber that splits into multiple finer fibers. Most synthetic fibers are round in cross-section, but special designs can be hollow, oval, star-shaped or trilobal. The latter design provides more optically reflective properties. Synthetic textile fibers are often crimped to provide bulk in a woven, non woven or knitted structure. Fiber surfaces can also be dull or bright. Dull surfaces reflect more light while bright tends to transmit light and make the fiber more transparent.
Very short and/or irregular fibers have been called fibrils. Natural cellulose, such as cotton or bleached kraft show smaller fibrils jutting out and away from the main fiber structure.
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Jump to: navigation, search
For other uses, see Fiber (disambiguation).
Fiber or fibre[1] is a class of materials that are continuous filaments or are in discrete elongated pieces, similar to lengths of thread. They are very important in the biology of both plants and animals, for holding tissues together. Human uses for fibers are diverse. They can be spun into filaments, string or rope, used as a component of composite materials, or matted into sheets to make products such as paper or felt. Fibers are often used in the manufacture of other materials. Synthetic fibers can be produced very cheaply and in large amounts compared to natural fibers, but natural fibers enjoy some benefits, such as comfort, over their man-made counterparts.
Contents [hide]
1 Natural fibers
2 Man-made fibers
2.1 Mineral fibers
2.2 Polymer fibers
2.3 Microfibers
3 See also
4 Notes
[edit] Natural fibers
Natural fibers include those produced by plants, animals, and geological processes. They are biodegradable over time. They can be classified according to their origin:
Vegetable fibers are generally based on arrangements of cellulose, often with lignin: examples include cotton, hemp, jute, flax, ramie, and sisal. Plant fibers are employed in the manufacture of paper and textile (cloth), and dietary fiber is an important component of human nutrition.
Wood fiber, distinguished from vegetable fiber, is from tree sources. Forms include groundwood, thermomechanical pulp (TMP) and bleached or unbleached kraft or sulfite pulps. Kraft and sulfite, also called sulphite, refer to the type of pulping process used to remove the lignin bonding the original wood structure, thus freeing the fibers for use in paper and engineered wood products such as fiberboard.
Animal fibers consist largely of particular proteins. Instances are spider silk, sinew, catgut, wool and hair such as cashmere, mohair and angora, fur such as sheepskin, rabbit, mink, fox, beaver, etc.
Mineral fibers comprise asbestos. Asbestos is the only naturally occurring long mineral fiber. Short, fiber-like minerals include wollastinite, attapulgite and halloysite.
[edit] Man-made fibers
Synthetic or man-made fibers generally come from synthetic materials such as petrochemicals. But some types of synthetic fibers are manufactured from natural cellulose, including rayon, modal, and the more recently developed Lyocell. Cellulose-based fibers are of two types, regenerated or pure cellulose such as from the cupro-ammonium process and modified or derivitized cellulose such as the cellulose acetates.
[edit] Mineral fibers
Fiberglass, made from specific glass, and optical fiber, made from purified natural quartz, are also man-made fibers that come from natural raw materials.
Metallic fibers can be drawn from ductile metals such as copper, gold or silver and extruded or deposited from more brittle ones, such as nickel, aluminum or iron.
Carbon fibers are often based on carbonised polymers, but the end product is pure carbon.
There are two sorts of man-made fibers: synthetic fibers and regenerated fibers.
[edit] Polymer fibers
Polymer fibers are a subset of man-made fibers, which are based on synthetic chemicals (often from petrochemical sources) rather than arising from natural materials by a purely physical process. Such fibers are made from:
polyamide nylon,
PET or PBT polyester
phenol-formaldehyde (PF)
polyvinyl alcohol fiber (PVOH)
polyvinyl chloride fiber (PVC)
polyolefins (PP and PE)
acrylic polymers, pure polyacrylonitrile PAN fibers are used to make carbon fiber by roasting them in a low oxygen environment. Traditional acrylic fiber is used more often as a synthetic replacement for wool. Carbon fibers and PF fibers are noted as two resin-based fibers that are not thermoplastic, most others can be melted.
Aromatic polyamids (aramids) such as Twaron, Kevlar and Nomex thermally degrade at high temperatures and do not melt. These fibers have strong bonding between polymer chains
polyethylene (PE), eventually with extremely long chains / HMPE (e.g. Dyneema or Spectra).
Elastomers can even be used, e.g. spandex although urethane fibers are starting to replace spandex technology.
polyurethane fiber
Coextruded fibers have two distinct polymers forming the fiber, usually as a core-sheath or side-by-side. Coated fibers exist such as nickel-coated to provide static elimination, silver-coated to provide anti-bacterial properties and aluminum-coated to provide RF deflection for radar chaff. Radar chaff is actually a spool of continuous glass tow that has been aluminum coated. An aircraft-mounted high speed cutter chops it up as it spews from a moving aircraft to confuse radar signals.
[edit] Microfibers
Micro fibers in textiles refer to sub-denier fiber (such as polyester drawn to 0.5 dn). Denier and Detex are two measurements of fiber yield based on weight and length. If the fiber density is known you also have a fiber diameter, otherwise it is simpler to measure diameters in micrometers. Microfibers in technical fibers refer to ultra fine fibers (glass or meltblown thermoplastics) often used in filtration. Newer fiber designs include extruding fiber that splits into multiple finer fibers. Most synthetic fibers are round in cross-section, but special designs can be hollow, oval, star-shaped or trilobal. The latter design provides more optically reflective properties. Synthetic textile fibers are often crimped to provide bulk in a woven, non woven or knitted structure. Fiber surfaces can also be dull or bright. Dull surfaces reflect more light while bright tends to transmit light and make the fiber more transparent.
Very short and/or irregular fibers have been called fibrils. Natural cellulose, such as cotton or bleached kraft show smaller fibrils jutting out and away from the main fiber structure.
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Cheese
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A cheese platter with many types of cheeseCheese is a food made from the milk of cows, goats, sheep and other mammals, by coagulating the milk. This is accomplished by first acidifying it with a bacterial culture and then employing the enzyme rennet (or rennet substitutes) to coagulate the milk to "curds and whey."[1] The precise bacteria and processing of the curds play a role in defining the texture and flavor of most cheeses. Some cheeses also feature molds, either on the outer rind (similar to a fruit peel) or throughout.
There are hundreds of types of cheese produced all over the world. Different styles and flavors of cheese are the result of using milk from various mammals or with different butterfat contents, employing particular species of bacteria and molds, and varying the length of aging and other processing treatments. Other factors include animal diet and the addition of flavoring agents such as herbs, spices, or wood smoke. Whether the milk is pasteurized may also affect the flavor. The yellow to red coloring of many cheeses is a result of adding annatto. Cheeses are eaten both on their own and cooked as part of various dishes; most cheeses melt when heated.
For a few cheeses, the milk is curdled by adding acids such as vinegar or lemon juice. Most cheeses, however, are acidified to a lesser degree by bacteria, which turn milk sugars into lactic acid, followed by the addition of rennet to complete the curdling. Rennet is an enzyme mixture traditionally obtained from the stomach lining of young cattle, but now also laboratory produced. Vegetarian alternatives to rennet are available; most are produced by fermentation of the fungus Mucor miehei, but others have been extracted from various species of the Cynara thistle family.
Cheese has served as a hedge against famine and is a good travel food. It is valuable for its portability, long life, and high content of fat, protein, calcium, and phosphorus. Cheese is a more compact form of nutrition and has a longer shelf life than the milk from which it is made. Cheesemakers can place themselves near the center of a dairy region and benefit from fresher milk, lower milk prices, and lower shipping costs. The substantial storage life of cheese lets a cheesemaker sell when prices are high or when money is needed.
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For other uses, see Cheese (disambiguation).
A cheese platter with many types of cheeseCheese is a food made from the milk of cows, goats, sheep and other mammals, by coagulating the milk. This is accomplished by first acidifying it with a bacterial culture and then employing the enzyme rennet (or rennet substitutes) to coagulate the milk to "curds and whey."[1] The precise bacteria and processing of the curds play a role in defining the texture and flavor of most cheeses. Some cheeses also feature molds, either on the outer rind (similar to a fruit peel) or throughout.
There are hundreds of types of cheese produced all over the world. Different styles and flavors of cheese are the result of using milk from various mammals or with different butterfat contents, employing particular species of bacteria and molds, and varying the length of aging and other processing treatments. Other factors include animal diet and the addition of flavoring agents such as herbs, spices, or wood smoke. Whether the milk is pasteurized may also affect the flavor. The yellow to red coloring of many cheeses is a result of adding annatto. Cheeses are eaten both on their own and cooked as part of various dishes; most cheeses melt when heated.
For a few cheeses, the milk is curdled by adding acids such as vinegar or lemon juice. Most cheeses, however, are acidified to a lesser degree by bacteria, which turn milk sugars into lactic acid, followed by the addition of rennet to complete the curdling. Rennet is an enzyme mixture traditionally obtained from the stomach lining of young cattle, but now also laboratory produced. Vegetarian alternatives to rennet are available; most are produced by fermentation of the fungus Mucor miehei, but others have been extracted from various species of the Cynara thistle family.
Cheese has served as a hedge against famine and is a good travel food. It is valuable for its portability, long life, and high content of fat, protein, calcium, and phosphorus. Cheese is a more compact form of nutrition and has a longer shelf life than the milk from which it is made. Cheesemakers can place themselves near the center of a dairy region and benefit from fresher milk, lower milk prices, and lower shipping costs. The substantial storage life of cheese lets a cheesemaker sell when prices are high or when money is needed.
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Loudspeaker
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An inexpensive low fidelity 3.5 inch speaker, typically found in small radios
An expensive 4-way, high fidelity loudspeaker system.A loudspeaker, speaker, or speaker system is an electromechanical transducer that converts an electrical signal to sound. The term loudspeaker can refer to individual devices (otherwise known as drivers), or to complete systems consisting of an enclosure incorporating one or more drivers and additional electronic components. Loudspeakers, as with other electro-acoustic transducers, are the most variable elements in an audio system and are responsible for the greatest degree of audible differences between sound systems.
To reproduce a wide range of frequencies, most loudspeaker systems require more than one driver, particularly for high sound pressure level or high fidelity applications. Individual drivers are used to cover different frequency ranges. The drivers are named subwoofers, for very low frequencies; woofers, for low frequencies; mid-range speakers, for middle frequencies; tweeters, for high frequencies; and, also, the so-called supertweeters, which are basically tweeters optimized for higher frequencies than a normal tweeter.
These terms for different speaker applications/ranges can differ widely depending on the application. Home stereos use the designation "tweeter" for high frequencies whereas professional audio systems for concerts typically designate all types of high frequency drivers simply as HF or "highs". High frequency compression driver units are also called "horns" in cases where the professional loudspeaker's lower frequency drivers are front-loaded. There is also a distinct difference in terminology between that used in the U.S. versus the U.K.
A "filter network", called a crossover separates the incoming signal into different frequency bands appropriate for each driver. A loudspeaker system with 'N' separate frequency bands is described as "N-way speakers": a 2-way system will have woofer and tweeter speakers; a 3-way system is a combination of a set of woofers, mid-range speakers, and tweeters(HF drivers).
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An inexpensive low fidelity 3.5 inch speaker, typically found in small radios
An expensive 4-way, high fidelity loudspeaker system.A loudspeaker, speaker, or speaker system is an electromechanical transducer that converts an electrical signal to sound. The term loudspeaker can refer to individual devices (otherwise known as drivers), or to complete systems consisting of an enclosure incorporating one or more drivers and additional electronic components. Loudspeakers, as with other electro-acoustic transducers, are the most variable elements in an audio system and are responsible for the greatest degree of audible differences between sound systems.
To reproduce a wide range of frequencies, most loudspeaker systems require more than one driver, particularly for high sound pressure level or high fidelity applications. Individual drivers are used to cover different frequency ranges. The drivers are named subwoofers, for very low frequencies; woofers, for low frequencies; mid-range speakers, for middle frequencies; tweeters, for high frequencies; and, also, the so-called supertweeters, which are basically tweeters optimized for higher frequencies than a normal tweeter.
These terms for different speaker applications/ranges can differ widely depending on the application. Home stereos use the designation "tweeter" for high frequencies whereas professional audio systems for concerts typically designate all types of high frequency drivers simply as HF or "highs". High frequency compression driver units are also called "horns" in cases where the professional loudspeaker's lower frequency drivers are front-loaded. There is also a distinct difference in terminology between that used in the U.S. versus the U.K.
A "filter network", called a crossover separates the incoming signal into different frequency bands appropriate for each driver. A loudspeaker system with 'N' separate frequency bands is described as "N-way speakers": a 2-way system will have woofer and tweeter speakers; a 3-way system is a combination of a set of woofers, mid-range speakers, and tweeters(HF drivers).
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Tawas Township, Michigan
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Tawas Township, Michigan
Tawas Township, MichiganLocation within the state of Michigan
Coordinates: 44°17′12″N 83°34′23″W / 44.28667, -83.57306
Country United States
State Michigan
County Iosco
Area
- Total 33.4 sq mi (86.6 km²)
- Land 33.4 sq mi (86.6 km²)
- Water 0.0 sq mi (0.0 km²)
Elevation 686 ft (209 m)
Population (2000)
- Total 1,684
- Density 50.4/sq mi (19.4/km²)
Time zone Eastern (EST) (UTC-5)
- Summer (DST) EDT (UTC-4)
FIPS code 26-78100[1]
GNIS feature ID 1627151[2]
Tawas Township is a township in Iosco County, Michigan, United States. The population was 1,684 at the 2000 census.
[edit] Geography
According to the United States Census Bureau, the township has a total area of 33.5 square miles (86.6 km²), all land.
[edit] Demographics
As of the census2 of 2000, there were 1,684 people, 635 households, and 485 families residing in the township. The population density was 50.4 per square mile (19.4/km²). There were 742 housing units at an average density of 22.2/sq mi (8.6/km²). The racial makeup of the township was 97.92% White, 0.30% African American, 0.65% Native American, 0.42% Asian, 0.12% from other races, and 0.59% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 0.65% of the population.
There were 635 households out of which 32.8% had children under the age of 18 living with them, 65.8% were married couples living together, 6.8% had a female householder with no husband present, and 23.5% were non-families. 19.2% of all households were made up of individuals and 9.3% had someone living alone who was 65 years of age or older. The average household size was 2.55 and the average family size was 2.90.
In the township the population was spread out with 24.5% under the age of 18, 5.3% from 18 to 24, 25.0% from 25 to 44, 25.4% from 45 to 64, and 19.8% who were 65 years of age or older. The median age was 42 years. For every 100 females there were 96.7 males. For every 100 females age 18 and over, there were 96.9 males.
The median income for a household in the township was $37,941, and the median income for a family was $40,250. Males had a median income of $31,486 versus $20,119 for females. The per capita income for the township was $16,632. About 6.2% of families and 8.2% of the population were below the poverty line, including 10.8% of those under age 18 and 7.1% of those age 65 or over.
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Tawas Township, Michigan
Tawas Township, MichiganLocation within the state of Michigan
Coordinates: 44°17′12″N 83°34′23″W / 44.28667, -83.57306
Country United States
State Michigan
County Iosco
Area
- Total 33.4 sq mi (86.6 km²)
- Land 33.4 sq mi (86.6 km²)
- Water 0.0 sq mi (0.0 km²)
Elevation 686 ft (209 m)
Population (2000)
- Total 1,684
- Density 50.4/sq mi (19.4/km²)
Time zone Eastern (EST) (UTC-5)
- Summer (DST) EDT (UTC-4)
FIPS code 26-78100[1]
GNIS feature ID 1627151[2]
Tawas Township is a township in Iosco County, Michigan, United States. The population was 1,684 at the 2000 census.
[edit] Geography
According to the United States Census Bureau, the township has a total area of 33.5 square miles (86.6 km²), all land.
[edit] Demographics
As of the census2 of 2000, there were 1,684 people, 635 households, and 485 families residing in the township. The population density was 50.4 per square mile (19.4/km²). There were 742 housing units at an average density of 22.2/sq mi (8.6/km²). The racial makeup of the township was 97.92% White, 0.30% African American, 0.65% Native American, 0.42% Asian, 0.12% from other races, and 0.59% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 0.65% of the population.
There were 635 households out of which 32.8% had children under the age of 18 living with them, 65.8% were married couples living together, 6.8% had a female householder with no husband present, and 23.5% were non-families. 19.2% of all households were made up of individuals and 9.3% had someone living alone who was 65 years of age or older. The average household size was 2.55 and the average family size was 2.90.
In the township the population was spread out with 24.5% under the age of 18, 5.3% from 18 to 24, 25.0% from 25 to 44, 25.4% from 45 to 64, and 19.8% who were 65 years of age or older. The median age was 42 years. For every 100 females there were 96.7 males. For every 100 females age 18 and over, there were 96.9 males.
The median income for a household in the township was $37,941, and the median income for a family was $40,250. Males had a median income of $31,486 versus $20,119 for females. The per capita income for the township was $16,632. About 6.2% of families and 8.2% of the population were below the poverty line, including 10.8% of those under age 18 and 7.1% of those age 65 or over.
wow... Carbon grow up man lol.
ScionLife is a FORUM, the point of a forum is to DISCUSS. thats all the starter of this thread wanted was to discuss something he had been thinking about. If you don't to take part in this discussion, dont open the page, its that simple.
and p.s. clearly the Si outperforms the tC but frankly i dont give a damn simply because the tC is so sexy
ScionLife is a FORUM, the point of a forum is to DISCUSS. thats all the starter of this thread wanted was to discuss something he had been thinking about. If you don't to take part in this discussion, dont open the page, its that simple.
and p.s. clearly the Si outperforms the tC but frankly i dont give a damn simply because the tC is so sexy
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A scion tc with minor boltons can beat a si. My boy had full dc sports exhaust and a weapon r short ram, and took him. SS/NA cobalt with intake can take one. Again seen it in person. The SI has by far better gearing to compensate for the lack of torqe. People can call bs all they want , but I know what I experinced. Nonetheless the si is still preatty quick.
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I prefer the torque over Higher HP...nothing like getting thrown back in your seat, even if they get to cruising speed faster....
B/s a torquey engine is more fun "legally" (from 0-55.60,70, etc) then a high HP engine that doesnt get going till the top end.
Carbon......chill out....if nothing else, move it to a more appropriate forum......what you are doing is called SPAMMING
B/s a torquey engine is more fun "legally" (from 0-55.60,70, etc) then a high HP engine that doesnt get going till the top end.
Carbon......chill out....if nothing else, move it to a more appropriate forum......what you are doing is called SPAMMING
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i agree the tC is alot more low end fun. and frankly i have not seen many Si's below 15.2 that motor i bleve is campable of high 14's with the best of drivers. but as we all know must civics arent driven by the best drivers. if im trapping lower mph but still getting 15.1s out of my tC then its fully bleveable that a tC (with i/h/e, no pulley) can beat a Si in the quarter. beyond that...we will get pulled on. however, autoX is my main thing an i JUST demolished a New Si on this past sunday. they dont have the low end to pull their newfound porkyness thru the tighter turns. its a nice car but it has its weaknesses just like us tCs. we could stand to drop 400lbs. oh the dreams of running mid 14s out the box....
im still waiting on my oppurtunity to beat a new si straight up. the only one i got the oppurtunity to challenge bowed out. and my car will get a N/A tune soon on the emanage so things will only get worse for them from here on out lol.
im still waiting on my oppurtunity to beat a new si straight up. the only one i got the oppurtunity to challenge bowed out. and my car will get a N/A tune soon on the emanage so things will only get worse for them from here on out lol.
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A reasonable comparison to a Civic SI would be a tC with TRD supercharger, Limited Slip Diff, and TRD springs and struts. Considering the SI is factory warrantied, you need to look at the equivalent parts. Depending on the price on installation, you'll notice the prices of each setup are pretty close.
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Originally Posted by temporary
Comon comparing the Si to the tC is like comparing flowers to crap.
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Originally Posted by monkeysauce
Originally Posted by temporary
Comon comparing the Si to the tC is like comparing flowers to crap.